Let's make Tri-Disaster useful!

If there's one SMN ability that's useless in this game, that would be Tri-Disaster. Long casting time, low damage, poor range. The 20s Bind doesn't justify using TD.

What about a little wider AoE and a "vaccum" effect, making the enemies around get drawn closer to the main one? The MP cost could be raised to counter-balance. :)

Instead of bind, make it apply all 3 primary Dots from summoner: Bio 2, miasma and bio. Change the recast to 1min and increase MP cost to make it add up to the total cost of having to cast Bio 2, miasma and bio.

Or we could change the move completely to something like "summoned egi adds a support buff to nearby party members for a duration." Anything more pet-focused D:

Its great in any situation where you want adds bunched up like garu or....garu. Particularly ambitious cm speed runs? Maybe some strats in turn 4?

its situational, but it is good in those situations.

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Originally Posted by PiedPiper

Its great in any situation where you want adds bunched up like garu or....garu. Particularly ambitious cm speed runs? Maybe some strats in turn 4?

its situational, but it is good in those situations.

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We have two BLMs for our Garuda groups.

I don't think the summoner even knows what a feather plume is.

Shrug. Its okay when you need to aoe and there is more than 4 targets.

If it applied dots then what would be the point of bane?

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Originally Posted by Thyrllan

We have two BLMs for our Garuda groups.

I don't think the summoner even knows what a feather plume is.

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I do. Also, i'm part of our FC's Garuda group and i know that i need to use Tri-Disarter before the plumes come out and as a plus, i'm used to cast Garuda-Egi's Enkindle at the same time.

Well, as a BLM is way easier, for sure.

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Originally Posted by Ardan

Instead of bind, make it apply all 3 primary Dots from summoner: Bio 2, miasma and bio. Change the recast to 1min and increase MP cost to make it add up to the total cost of having to cast Bio 2, miasma and bio.

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Awesome idea, though at that point I would change it to be single-target only. That way we can burst down new adds with Fester more easily, and still have Bane for those times when we need to spread to multiple targets.

I'm sorry but that spell has been off my skill bar for so long now that I quite frankly do not even care about it.
How about we remove that awful spell altogether and replace with a new one?

I agree, Tri-Disaster is worthless.

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/abil...catastasis.png & http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/abil...age/freeze.png says HI

I do agree that all JOB skills should be useful, and want reworks for all of the above.

How about 1 one second silence, a 5 second paralyze, and a 10 second heavy/slow on a thirty second Cooldown. Instant cast.

Bump, I would like to see this happen or something useful with this skill at least.

It actually has a few good uses you might over look. Garuda NM or and Garuda HM, use it each time she summons plumes, (they spawn under her during phase 1 except 1 set) If your group knows ahead of time, All of them can use AoE soon as you cast Tri-D, bind them in place, all their AoE hits. you now just lowered all the plumes down to 20% or less (dead in many cases) .. granted Garuda HM is a joke, but situations like that can actually be nice.

The spell overall is worthless, but it has its uses.

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Originally Posted by Youmu

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/abil...catastasis.png & http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/abil...age/freeze.png says HI

I do agree that all JOB skills should be useful, and want reworks for all of the above.

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When I got those two skills I died inside.

since it's called Tri-Disaster, the effect granted by the attack should change according to the summoned egi.

Garuda - higher damage + knockback/paralyze
Titan - lower damage + bind/slow/heavy
Ifrit - normal damage + weakness or stun
without any egi up - higher damage + bind + either BioII, Bio or Miasma

well the 20second bind sure is useful in some situations but currently it's really uninteresting and has nothing to do with the summons (as Summoner, it's sad really)

Wow that tri disaster sounds almost as worthless as a blms freeze long , mp consuming, hits for shit cuz it binds spell. yep prob as crappy as that one.

It's not totally worthless, I use it in ALEA to do the AOE spam to get some xp.

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Originally Posted by shinros

When I got those two skills I died inside.

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My feelings exactly

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Originally Posted by shinros

When I got those two skills I died inside.

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At least Freeze has a very pretty animation. Tri-Disaster has a crap animation ;(

The casting animation of tri-disaster is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk

At least Freeze has a very pretty animation. Tri-Disaster has a crap animation ;(

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Yeah sometimes I just cast it because it looks pretty. XD

I still hold the opinion we need more blow up skills if freeze planted an aoe on the ground(like shadow flare) and slows enemies with an ice dot I would bet the skill would have more use. That would be cool.

On and the other skill it should be a debuff to enemies elemental resistances instead of a buff to defense.

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Originally Posted by EdenArchangel

Or we could change the move completely to something like "summoned egi adds a support buff to nearby party members for a duration." Anything more pet-focused D:

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Please and thank you!

Maybe even a spell where the pet buffs YOU changing depending on the pet used would be great. Just make Summoners more summoner-like...

More people need to learn using miasma 2 to round up trash into a nice group then swiftcast tridisaster to bind them all.
The spell doesnt suck as much as you think it does