The 4 tomestones

Currently now we have 2 of the 4 tomestones for endgame gear sets.

Tier 1 Philosophy (no time capacity restrictions)
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Tier 2 Mythology (300 per week restriction)
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looking closely we still have 2 more tiers of tomes arriving in the future for future endgame gears and materials once newer and higher levels of endgame are released.

Current restriction to Mythology is most likely due to how the gear set is the currently one of the best gears in the game but once the next 2 tiers tomes are released it will be possible to increase the capacity on mythology or remove the 300 per week restrictions since Mythology gear will no longer one of the best gears in the game.

So people who want their Mythology AF2 set can get these now but if you're waiting for lower or no restrictions it will be a while before we get the increase from 300 to higher capacity or complete removal of 300 tomes per week on mythology.

(on the bright side we all can look back and tell the people who can get mythology and AF2 gear easily in the future about this time when mythology was restricted)

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Tier 3: Tomestones of Theology, 100 cap a week and 1000 minimum just for accessories. Everyone ragequits \o/

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Originally Posted by Nouran

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and one that needs to be told because it will be either now when we still have the 300 per week restriction or later once the 300 per week restriction no longer exists or have a higher capacity that we can easily get 1 or 2 pieces per week.

The design path that they're taking is mostly lifted from the mainstream mmo's before it. By the time mythology are reasonable to get, the gear you obtain with mythology will be pretty lackluster.

And then people will be crying about 300 (or whatever) restrictions on whatever the new tome is.

I'm glad there's a limitiation, or i'd never stop grinding it.

Similar to FFXI, I liked having a limitaition on what I could do, it stopped me 'no-lifing', it also stops everyone getting really far ahead within a matter of weeks.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

I'm glad there's a limitiation, or i'd never stop grinding it.

Similar to FFXI, I liked having a limitaition on what I could do, it stopped me 'no-lifing', it also stops everyone getting really far ahead within a matter of weeks.

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Honestly, ask yourself this one question: Has it REALLY stopped people from getting really far ahead within a matter of weeks? Has the lack of gil drops in dungeons REALLY stopped the world from getting insane amounts of gil, where RMT's are advertising 1 million for 6 USD? Has the limit on myth tomes REALLY stopped people from discovering ways to exploit their way through end-game content, and then publicly "denounce" their own use of said exploits as a means of merely notifying SE about the exploits?

NooooOOOOoooo.

I did the calculation for my Dragoon...

Darklight Helm (495)
Darklight Cuirass (825)
Darklight Gauntlets (495)
Darklight Tassets (375)
Darklight Trousers (825)
Darklight Sollerets (495)
Darklight Earrings (375) - Maiming
Darklight Choker (375) - Maiming
Darklight Bracelet (375) - Maiming
Darklihgt Band (Ring) (375) - Maiming *2
5385 Philosophy

Wyrm's Armet (495)
Wyrm's Mail (825)
Wyrm's Gauntlets (495)
Hero's Belt (375) - Maiming
Wyrm's Breeches (825)
Wyrm's Greaves (495)
Hero's earrings (375) - Slaying
Hero's Necklace (375) - Fending/Slaying
Hero's Bracelet (375) - Slaying/Aiming
Hero's Ring (375) - Slaying *2
5385 Mythology
17.95 Weeks
6300 Mythology (+1)
21.00 Weeks
Total Myth:
11,685
38.95 Weeks

Rings are unique and you're not expected to fill every piece of gear with AF2 stuff. Most classes really only need a couple AF2 pieces for their BIS setup (Legs and Helm for Bards for example).

I guess if you don't raid it would be an issue, but what do you really need the gear for anyway? To farm AK/Castrum faster?

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Originally Posted by Nanga

Honestly, ask yourself this one question: Has it REALLY stopped people from getting really far ahead within a matter of weeks? Has the lack of gil drops in dungeons REALLY stopped the world from getting insane amounts of gil, where RMT's are advertising 1 million for 6 USD? Has the limit on myth tomes REALLY stopped people from discovering ways to exploit their way through end-game content, and then publicly "denounce" their own use of said exploits as a means of merely notifying SE about the exploits?

NooooOOOOoooo.

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Yes it has, name me anyone who has a full set of AF2 along with accessories and vanquished Turn 5 of the binding coil without a sweat on their brow?

I can see you're not on a Legacy server, i'm afraid aside from RMT's most people on the newer servers don't have as much money as the legacy servers, but aside from melding gear your gil won't buy you into end-game content that easily.

There is no way to dodge the Mytholgoy cap. The only people to exploit Turn 5 so far submitted a ticket to Square Enix explaining that they didn't complete it legitimately and made sure they didn't receive the 'World-First' claim due to a bug.

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Originally Posted by vRoad

Rings are unique and you're not expected to fill every piece of gear with AF2 stuff. Most classes really only need a couple AF2 pieces for their BIS setup (Legs and Helm for Bards for example).

I guess if you don't raid it would be an issue, but what do you really need the gear for anyway? To farm AK/Castrum faster?

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I'm a collector.... looks like I'll be picking up a Slaying and a Maiming then probably...

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Originally Posted by Shioban

Yes it has, name me anyone who has a full set of AF2 along with accessories and vanquished Turn 5 of the binding coil without a sweat on their brow?

I can see you're not on a Legacy server, i'm afraid aside from RMT's most people on the newer servers don't have as much money as the legacy servers, but aside from melding gear your gil won't buy you into end-game content that easily.

There is no way to dodge the Mytholgoy cap. The only people to exploit Turn 5 so far submitted a ticket to Square Enix explaining that they didn't complete it legitimately and made sure they didn't receive the 'World-First' claim due to a bug.

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Because, really, "denying one's self the 'World First' tag makes everything A-Ok! We'll just scoot along, continue the lore and continue exploring, getting ourselves ahead of everyone else...oh, and avertising that there's an exploit to get past this hard part (with screenshots which - for all intents and purposes, practically SPELLS OUT how to do it), so anyone else with 5 minutes to think about it can get their FC past turn 5, too."

*phew*

Was an awful lot of words to say: anybody that "turns themselves in for exploiting" isn't doing it as a, "White Hat" exploiter, especially when they post public screenshots of themselves doing it, and then brag about all the new lore and items they discovered from their exploits. But hey, this was covered in another thread already :)

I recall reading somewhere that the prices of current Myth items may be slightly lowered when even better stuff becomes available, I decided to hold onto my tomes just in case it happens.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

We'll just scoot along, continue the lore and continue exploring, getting ourselves ahead of everyone else...oh, and avertising that there's an exploit to get past this hard part (with screenshots which - for all intents and purposes, practically SPELLS OUT how to do it), so anyone else with 5 minutes to think about it can get their FC past turn 5, too."

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It was a flaw in the design of the fight. Why would you get so mad about it?

They owned up to the mistake that it wasn't their fault and that they didn't finish it properly, there's nothing the party could have done to prevent it.

It's only 'exploited' if it's done over and over again.

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Originally Posted by AridElf

I recall reading somewhere that the prices of current Myth items may be slightly lowered when even better stuff becomes available, I decided to hold onto my tomes just in case it happens.

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That won't be happening until December, it's best to spend them now.

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Originally Posted by AridElf

I recall reading somewhere that the prices of current Myth items may be slightly lowered when even better stuff becomes available, I decided to hold onto my tomes just in case it happens.

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that feels a bit extreme. It already takes 2 weeks to get either glove, head, or boots if you complete 300 cap per week and 3 weeks to get Body, Pants, or Relic +1.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

It was a flaw in the design of the fight. Why would you get so mad about it?

They owned up to the mistake that it wasn't their fault and that they didn't finish it properly, there's nothing the party could have done to prevent it.

It's only 'exploited' if it's done over and over again.



That won't be happening until December, it's best to spend them now.

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Because they executed the "flaw" purposely. They knew what they were doing, they knew it was bugged, and instead of resetting the fight, they continued to kill a mob that was standing there doing absolutely nothing after deliberately setting it up to do absolutely nothing. That is exploiting. Cheating.

I don't like how we can just buy unlimited supplies of end game legendary gear via vendors .-.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

Honestly, ask yourself this one question: Has it REALLY stopped people from getting really far ahead within a matter of weeks? Has the lack of gil drops in dungeons REALLY stopped the world from getting insane amounts of gil, where RMT's are advertising 1 million for 6 USD? Has the limit on myth tomes REALLY stopped people from discovering ways to exploit their way through end-game content, and then publicly "denounce" their own use of said exploits as a means of merely notifying SE about the exploits?

NooooOOOOoooo.

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They never said it stopped other people... Just themselves.

If you read correctly.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

Because they executed the "flaw" purposely. They knew what they were doing, they knew it was bugged, and instead of resetting the fight, they continued to kill a mob that was standing there doing absolutely nothing after deliberately setting it up to do absolutely nothing. That is exploiting. Cheating.

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So you'd be a good little soldier and reset the fight?

Pfft, unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

So you'd be a good little soldier and reset the fight?

Pfft, unlikely.

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No. I wouldn't deliberately set it up to exploit it in the first place. They knew they were doing it. It requires VERY specific behavior on the part of the people participating in the fight to get the boss into bug mode - behavior that anyone else would normally say, "Why on earth are you doing that? It makes no sense to do that when you are trying to kill ---- ohhhhh, I see. The boss cannot do anything now."

It doesn't just happen by accident and without anyone knowing it will happen, putting them in a position of having to choose whether to kill a bugged boss, or reset it. They set out with the sole purpose of bugging the boss in the first place, in order to kill it.

Gild buys you into endgame contand eyxtremly easy have enough and you buy the crafted lvl 70 gear better than darklight. a Full set hmm you get it vor aaround 3kk and you have better equip as darklight :9 easy as that. so GIL GIVES you easy access to endgame contend at least on ODIN we have enough crafter for that xD

The cap is there to make very small amounts of content last a lot longer than they should

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Originally Posted by Nanga

No. I wouldn't deliberately set it up to exploit it in the first place. They knew they were doing it. It requires VERY specific behavior on the part of the people participating in the fight to get the boss into bug mode - behavior that anyone else would normally say, "Why on earth are you doing that? It makes no sense to do that when you are trying to kill ---- ohhhhh, I see. The boss cannot do anything now."

It doesn't just happen by accident and without anyone knowing it will happen, putting them in a position of having to choose whether to kill a bugged boss, or reset it. They set out with the sole purpose of bugging the boss in the first place, in order to kill it.

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Considering the FC and people in question who did it never reveled their identity you're simply clasping at straws that aren't there.

Don't make assumptions about people you don't know.

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Originally Posted by Nura

Gild buys you into endgame contand eyxtremly easy have enough and you buy the crafted lvl 70 gear better than darklight. a Full set hmm you get it vor aaround 3kk and you have better equip as darklight :9 easy as that. so GIL GIVES you easy access to endgame contend at least on ODIN we have enough crafter for that xD

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Er on my server, that crafted gear is well over 1 mill per piece...that's if you can find it that is since there is never more than 2 on the MP (usually zero); last time I checked HQ ones are priced over 10 mill gil.... also shout advertising crafters are pricing it around 1.3 mill per so it's not cheap...at all. Keep in mind this does not even include material + melds which will cost even more on top of the base item.

There is only four ways I can see anyone affording those extreme prices and that is a) gil buyers b) people who sell HM titan runs. c) the crafters charging this much d) legacy players.

I will never get that much gil so mythos gear or bust.

Anyways, the myth cap is kinda low imo. I mean there really isn't much to do once you hit the weekly cap and have full DL except hopefully find a FC capable of good coil runs which is rare.

edit. guy who calculated myth needed for full suit forgot to mention the 900 required to +1 your relic which is another 3 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

Considering the FC and people in question who did it never reveled their identity you're simply clasping at straws that aren't there.

Don't make assumptions about people you don't know.

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Because NOT revealing your name is proof that you didn't do something?

Only person grasping at straws is you. I did notice you completely ignored the actual point. Those people deliberately cheated. The bug they used involves deliberately doing something to cause it to bug out. Are you denying this?

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Originally Posted by Nanga

Because NOT revealing your name is proof that you didn't do something?

Only person grasping at straws is you. I did notice you completely ignored the actual point. Those people deliberately cheated. The bug they used involves deliberately doing something to cause it to bug out. Are you denying this?

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Oh i'm not denying it, i'm just saying you're talking about something you wern't actually there for.

My question is, why do you care? ~

It doesn't affect you.