I'm so frustrated with server response times

I can't find anywhere to vent in the technical whatever forum, so I have to do it here

I've spent something like 7 and a half hours today trying to beat Titan, and no matter what I do it is basically impossible for me to avoid his AOE attacks, any of them at all.

This didn't really bother me until now because I could just take the hit and heal myself and be fine, but this boss his so hard and the fight goes on for so long that even taking 1 hit is devastating to the fight.

No matter what I do, unless I have sprint on and am already running out of the AOE before he even casts it, I can't get out of it. I can be all the way across the arena from it, and I'll still take damage. I never rubberband, I have excellent FPS, and I have 55 mbps internet speed. I tested it, and it's only giving me 51 mbps but that's still way more than enough.

From what everyone I've talked to says, this is pretty much a known issue, but I'm really surprised more people aren't complaining about it. This is the only thing that is making me question whether I'll keep playing.

I love this game so far, everything about it has been great, but there's just no point in continuing to invest in it, time, money, or anything else if the developers are incapable of making such an incredibly important part of any online service work correctly.

Say what you want about WoW, but it has excellent response times. Aion has pretty good response times. Rift has excellent response times. SWTOR had pretty bad response times exactly like this, which is the exact reason I quit playing it. PvP and PvE were IMPOSSIBLE when I have a 3-second delay (1.5 to show up on my screen, 1.5 to get back to the server) between every single action.

So why aren't more people complaining about this? It's driving me batty and IMO needs to be fixed before anything else is done at all.

I'm so frustrated I just want to smash something.

PS: Why can we only put 1000 characters in a post?

Totally agreed. I'm not that far but I had this on sunken and Bray as a tank where you need to avoid damage more or wipe. Not only is it embarrassing that people think you're a noob but it shouldn't be happening anyway.

Agreed. While it is bad for those living close to the servers, it is downright terrible for us Australians. Please fix this.

Trust me, there are a lot of people extremely frustrated by this that aren't subscribing. It's not just you.

And it's not something you can ignore... it's a gamebreaking issue.

You cant just bring up new servers at a location. It needs preparation time etc.. so just wait and calm ur asses lol

You aren't supposed to react to Weight, you're supposed to preemptively move.
Start moving 2 seconds after Tumult or 2 second after the Mountain Buster following bombs.

With that said, my group is located all over North America and none of us have issues dodging Weight, even if we react instead of preempting it.

Oh, btw:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-fix-something.

I agree that Titan is hard, but all it does it test your reaction time, I've ran it and your reaction time has to be perfect to dodge his AoEs, What i hate is the stupid bombs, only thing I seem to fail on the most. But I do see where you are coming from. Titan HM zone has a Position lag. Some advice is run with someone who knows Titans rotation and have them call out what move he is useing next and start moving as soon as they call it out( need some kinda chat program for this. EX: mumble or vent)

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Originally Posted by Yenn

You aren't supposed to react to Weight, you're supposed to preemptively move.
Start moving 2 seconds after Tumult or 2 second after the Mountain Buster following bombs.

With that said, my group is located all over North America and none of us have issues dodging Weight, even if we react instead of preempting it.

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This thread is not about how cool is you group this thread is about the inconsistency of the AoE mechanics over several fights.
AoE always works how they are supposed? no so is a problem.

I'm going to throw in my two cents: I've had no problems dodging EVERYTHING that the game has thrown at me. Currently on the Coil, have had ZERO problems with Titan.

I'm going to chalk most of these "latency problems" up to people assuming that because they're out of the AoE before the boss/monster actually attacks, they're safe. You're only safe if you move out before the casting bar is finished, something that happens before the attack even goes off.

That's not to say that the servers have never screwed people over before. I've seen a GIF of someone in Turn 2 who was clearly out of Repelling Cannons BEFORE the casting bar was finished. But the few incidents I've seen are not indicative of the community's problems as a whole.

Start dodging better, and especially learn Titan's rotation. If you know you have to move before you actually have to move you can save your party a lot of time by just not getting hit by plumes or bombs.

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Originally Posted by KairaZ

You cant just bring up new servers at a location. It needs preparation time etc.. so just wait and calm ur asses lol

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Why? Do you even know what you are taking about? Or are you just saying this because SE is slow. Its not hard to get this crap set up, and it does not take month, or even weeks.

The fact that SE thought it was a good idea to have all NA/EU servers in the same data center in Montreal is baffling to me. Realistically they should have been working to beef up their server farm and farm locations during beta3 and beta4. Why server space, and location are still even an issue a month after launch, and months after betas is beyond me.

As for the Titan issue.. I do not have nearly the same problem avoiding stuff as some ppl are claiming. The red circles work find, and seemingly as intended. Every once in a while it will feel laggy, and one will not get avoided as appears on the players client, but it is no where near every single one. I can even go whole fights without seeing this issue once.

im not subscribing for it only gets worse after titan, the people who say it works fine are not very smart (cant say what I really want or banned again) ive stop playing now but looks they wont fix this issue so good bye ff14 another failure
PS I beat titian by running into his push move it was the only way for me

A tip. Subscribe to a tunneling service such as Battleping. It helps out immensely with Titan to the point that I no longer need to bother with remembering the rotation, and I'm a Healer.

I believe that SE already know this complain. However as much as they know the issue, I don't think they know how to improve the server respond time.

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Originally Posted by Torrential

A tip. Subscribe to a tunneling service such as Battleping. It helps out immensely with Titan to the point that I no longer need to bother with remembering the rotation, and I'm a Healer.

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WHat is that? and how could it improve the ISP ping issue?

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Originally Posted by Torrential

A tip. Subscribe to a tunneling service such as Battleping. It helps out immensely with Titan to the point that I no longer need to bother with remembering the rotation, and I'm a Healer.

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Going to look into this today, a few guys in my FC were mentioning this, and the phrase "ISP throttling" was tossed around. This was after a Hydra fight that the strangest thing kept happening.

I would zone in and cast Prot, and SS and then the game would literally rewind superfast, I mean folks moving in reverse and everything, I was like W.....T........F is going on with my machine. Its not that by the way I have a top-end machine complete with RAID-0 SSD's duel 660gtx's SLI 12 GB of DDR3 1600, 6 core I7, with 1200 watts powering it.

I am EXTREMELY happy with the game, but these bandwidth and throttling issues can use more work.

I know what you mean, and i belive you it is not case of i lost so lets blame lag.
I am lucky or unlucky, sometimes i have great connection, and sometimes i fully experience what you described here.
For me it changes randomly for instances, for eg in cutters cry i could not run from chimera, then few minutes later Brayflox's Longstop last boss could never hit me.
It is not issue of my PC, it runs FFXIV at 90-100 fps in towns, so it should get even more in instances.

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Originally Posted by Curcio

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Sorry but no...

There are issues. I do not have access to either the code or servers to determine where they are but they do exist. Go play WoW, Aion, Tera, TSW, etc... In those games when you are out of the AOE you are out of the AOE and take no damage. That is not the case here, it was not the case in SWTOR at launch. It was fatal to SWTOR, hopefully SE gets their heads out of their asses before it is fatal here.

FFXIV checks with the server for nearly everything. Some other MMO's, such as WoW, allow the client to handle some of these such as X,Y,Z positioning which makes the game seem "quicker" when its really not, its just how its displayed. However that makes a huge difference, when dealing with 1-2s effects.

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Originally Posted by Curcio

I don't have these problems so neither do you.

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A compelling argument, but I'm afraid your full of shit.
I know how telegraphs work. I can dodge the same attack in the same way 20 times and get hit by 12 of them. This is not because I'm bad. It is not because I don't understand that the casting bar is what matters not the animation. It's partly because I live in a smallish town in western Canada and my only options for internet are shit but at the same time I've played other games with similar mechanics and not had any issues dodging.