So, the time is upon most of us to actually start paying our subscription. The 30 days of free trial plus the 7 days extra for Erroreza we got in the first 2 weeks of the game is about to end and many of you will not continue on but some might. So lets review what happened since the game started, for the sake of argument lets start from the early access instead of launch day.
At first, we had the Marathon of errors and the lame excuses of the developers. You have seen these quotes on every post they made.
Ok, we understand that you were not ready to release the game but since you probably promise SE or had a deadline set by SE to launch the game, you went ahead with it.Quote:
"We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your patience."
"We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding."
We all know that open Beta should have last a lot longer, 3 days (2 for some people) would never be enough to strain the servers to actually see if they could handle it and the proof of that was the first week of early access when you had all those errors and had to implement servers and login restrictions.
You initially set your servers to handle 5000 active connections at a time and then upgraded to 7500. Those numbers still seems low, especially during peak hours, but it seems that this got the job done unless it is a Friday night or during the weekend and we cannot log in.
For all these troubles, most of us got some kind of reward.
PS3 users got the game free of charge when upgrade to PS4. (Edited because info was wrong)
Legacy user get sub for $9.99 per month instead of $14.99 - (Edited because info was wrong)
PC user got an extra 7 days of free trial (LAME)
All that aside we were (for most part) able to actually play the game. So now lets talk about the actual in game problems, bugs or lack of options.
In my opinion there are 3 types of people that start playing this game.
1. Series Fan – Those of us that had play every other FF games that ever came out or played FFXI and FFXIV V1.0.
2. New player – Those that are new to MMO and decided to start now because of a friend or just wanted to see what is all about.
3. Veteran MMO gamers – Those of us that had played many MMOs, got tired of the same themes on all MMO, and was urging for something new.
I believe that at least 60% of player now fit in the VET Scenario, I for one, played FFXI for 2 years and got a lil angry with all Grinding needed in order to level. After that I went to World of Warcraft and play that for about 7 years. I know I know, wow sucks …. We all know that !. I also tried a few others like Tera, D&D, Vindictus, Age of Wushu, Connan, Everquest, GuildWars, and many others.
There are a few types of MMO:1. Grindding or Hack&Slash – FFXI, VindictusFFXIV has created a new type for MMO that I like to call “Click & Click”. Everything in the game makes you click at least 3 times to get something done. Ex:
2. Action – Dragon Slayer, Ys, Diablo
3. Sandbox / Themepark – World of Warcraft, LOTR, Everquest, Aion, Tera, etc.
For you to get or complete a quest you need to click the npc, click to read the quest, click to accept the quest, click and click and click to make the npc go thru all the dialog and click again to confirm.
That was the first impression I had of the game, too much clicks to get things done.
I understand that they tried to make the game playable for PS3 consoles. But they could come out with a better system.
Another issue is the auto loot system, It’s great, I love it, but “why in the hell” would you give an auto loot to the game and not give an auto-sort option for the bags. By the time I was lv30, I had no more space and had to organize my bags, and thanks to the click&click, it took me about 1 hour to get it done.
Same thing if I wanted to put items on my Retainers, right click > move to retainer….. why not just right click and have the item go to the retainer, why so much confirmation?
Moving on….. Mounts.
It is very frustrating to have to mount and dismount all the time just to talk to a NPC, why can we just talk to a NPC while mounted? Is that so hard to program into the game?.
Why can’t we have our chocobos as companion and just mount it and go, or have the chocobo as a pet and have another like the WHM unicorn as a mount, it seems stupid to have our chocobo sent away in order to use a mount. Again Click here, Click there, and click again just to mount and move in the game.
Chat…..
The lack of option in the chat is amazing. With all the GilSellers/Spammers in the game now, we have to run a marathon just to Blacklist these Aholes. Right at the chat window if you right click on the name you can only invite to party or send fried request. Why can’t you add all options right there? Right click > Blacklist.
Same thing if you want to invite someone to your Free Company, you need to either have the person on your friend list or you need to open a window, write the first or last name, queue the search and then invite the person. Why not just Right click on the person’s name right there on the chat window and invite to FC?.
Mail….
I have 2 chars o the same server….. why?, you don’t need it … I know there’s no need to, but I like to have my Tank/Melees as a male char and my Healer/casters as a Female char. It’s all about taste.
But…… in order for me to send anything to anyone in the server, they need to be on my friend’s list and in order to put someone on your friend’s list, that person needs to be online. In other words, I can never send anything to my second char. In order for me to do that I need a 3rd person to help.
Lets say that I wanted to send my 2nd char 100000gil, the way the game is set right now I have to send the gil to a friend, logout, login with my 2nd char, have that friend added to my list and then have that friend send me the gil. Again… click, click. Click… just to send Gil to a 2nd char.
Cut scenes….
OMG. Add an option to auto skip it pleassseeeeeeeee!
Rendering….
Being a lv50 PLD I have an urge to kill Odin whenever I get a chance, but I have done it twice and got nothing. Why? Although he was there and some people was killing him, I and other like me could not see him the entire fight. I went to the options, turn everything to low, disabled all effects from other players, left the FATE and came back, Zoned out and Zoned in again, turned the game off and back on, and still didn’t see Odin. You need to work on your rendering engine. It has nothing to do with my system because people that play on PS3 had the same problem, and my pc setup it one of best up to date.
FFXIV is not a user friendly Game, it lacks options and support and for that reason many players will not be paying for subscription.
Despite of what many people think, World of Warcraft was the leading MMO for over 5 years in a row for that exact reason, it was a game easy to understand, very user friendly that had advance options for VET mmos players. They had the famous ADDONS for people with programing knowledge that allow them to change the interface of the game without compromising the Gameplay itself. Maybe you should look into this unless you only aiming to satisfied the JP players. But keep in mind that………..
According to most research, the leading MMO gamer comes from:
As a single country:
1. KoreaAs a Continent:
2. United States
3. Japan
4. Brazil
5. China
1. AsiaAlthough Japan has a high MMO gamer rate. Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, etc. are growing in exponential rate. It is shown in most research that by the 2015, Latin Americans will be leading the MMO Games by 20% over other continents. Here is one of the research, you can always google others.
2. Latin America
3. North America
4. Europe
http://www.newzoo.com/trend-reports/mmo-trend-report/
You should aim to improve NA/EU support. Otherwise when Korean Games like Archage, Bless, BlackDesert comes to this side of the map, you will fail like you did on FFXIV v.1 or maybe worse.
So, to resume. If you intend to lure gamer I would suggest that you:
1. Make the game more user Friendly:I still don’t know if I will pay for subscription, the way the game is right now is kind of boring and I already have done everything in the game, now I’m leveling a 2nd char and waiting for the new patch. I heard that the new patch is coming out on November 16th, not sure, but I might just wait until patch is out to see if the game has improved. Like me, many other think the same way. So get your heads out of your asses and fix the dammed game.1.1. Add option to auto skip cut scenes.2. Add Voice to all main story Cut scenes.
1.2. Less clicks to get stuff done.
1.3. Add more chat options.
1.4. Update the mail system.
1.5. Add an auto-sort system for the inventory.
1.6. Make buying, moving, deleting and organizing items easier.
3. Work on your rendering engine.
4. Make it possible to interact with things while mounted.
5. Make it possible to interact with things while crafting.
6. Add macros help to help menu.
7. Make pet macros available and easy to understand.
8. Get rid of Limit breakes and add individual one for each class like in FFXI
9. Add combat skill Fusion like in FFXI
10. Get rid of GilSellers/Spammers.
I believe that you will feel the amount of people leaving the game now. And maybe, just maybe they will come back in November once patch is live to see if the game is better, if not, get ready for the sad true that SE will not EVER give you another chance.
I fit in that category VET. I was looking for something new to play and FFXIV came out with a new way of Crafting which I found it to be Great. Combat in the other hand was a disappointment 2.5secs of global CD is a downer. Same goes for Limit Breakers, Bard/Archers having Healers LB (LAME). History line was great but the lack of voice killed it. Why only JPs have voice in everything… oh I forgot… the game was not ready for launch.
Here is my breakdown of the game with the 10pnts system.
Graphics = 8 - there’s something that does not render rightMaybe a 7 out of 10 overall. But there a lot of room for improvement.
Audio = 10 - Great 5.1 sound
Races = 10 - love the races
Classes = 8 - lack a few
Jobs = 8 - lack a few
Crafting = 10 - Best feature of the game
History Line = 10 - Love it
Combat = 4 - not a big fan of the 2.5 global CD
Skills = 7 - Lacking
Gameplay = 7 - could be better
Mounts = 6 - lacking
Pets = 5 - lacking
Companions = 10 - a lot of options
Price = 5 - not a fair price for a game that is not complete yet.
We run 3 gaming website in 3 different languages and have played many games. So we are here to Review and tried to help you improve the game. You can consider our advice or ignore it, but keep in mind that we know what gamers want.
Please few free to add, disagree, complain or just bash whatever you like. These are just our thoughts of the game.
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09-28-2013, 03:00 AMJizarSubscription upon us
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09-28-2013, 03:08 AMLisotte
Waaayyy too long to read the whole thing. Only thing I'll mention is LMFAO for you claiming that wow, aion, tera, everquest (EQ of all things!) are sandboxes. Do you even know what kinds of MMOs those typically apply to? Games like Ultima Online, Star Wars Galaxies, EVE Online. Everquest, WoW, and those are themeparks.
FFXI is like the opposite of a hack-and-slash game. It's pretty much in the same category as EQ and WoW, but more unique. -
09-28-2013, 03:09 AMTiggy
You're information is wildly inaccurate all over the place.
- "PS3 users got the game free of charge." FALSE
- "Legacy user got 180 days of free subscription" FALSE
- "You initially set your servers to handle 5000 active connections at a time and then upgraded to 7500. Those numbers still seems low..." 7500 is actually pretty damn good.
I'm sure there is more but I didn't want to read your wall of text after so much was incorrect right out of the gate. -
09-28-2013, 03:10 AMPapaSteelLink them.Quote:
We run 3 gaming website in 3 different languages
Just another post full of complaints, folks. Save yourself the time, there's nothing new here that hasn't been said before. -
09-28-2013, 03:10 AMCrimson-Falcon
you should have written ( TL;DR i wont continue playing )
man i have wasted 10 mins reading this expecting good argument -
09-28-2013, 03:10 AMkollwitzno idea what you are talking about. i had to pay for my ps3 copy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizar
FFXI was not a hack&slash. just putting FFXI and Vindictus into the same category...ughQuote:
There are a few types of MMO:
1. Gridding or Hack&Slash – FFXI, Vindictus
2. Action – Dragon Slayer, Ys, Diablo
3. Sandbox – World of Warcraft, LOTR, Everquest, Aion, Tera, etc.
World of Warcraft, LOTRO, Everquest, Aion, Tera are all Themepark MMOs.
Ultima Online and Star Wars Galaxies were sandbox MMOs...
not going to bother reading the rest of your post if you obviously have no idea what you are talking about, sorry. -
09-28-2013, 03:11 AMCuragajaThis was my exact thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiggy
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09-28-2013, 03:11 AMMalcolmReynolds
You can auto skip cutscenes already except for a few rare ones such as the intro. Just hit escape twice.
But I do agree with some of your points. Some of the issues have been acknowledged and are being worked on, like the Odin/Behemoth fates and the inventory stuff, but there is certainly still room for improvement. -
09-28-2013, 03:13 AMJizarsry, i updated it... they get free upgrade to PS4 when is out. they were going to charge initiallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Curagaja
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09-28-2013, 03:21 AMJizarno, we dont want haters to flood our sites. sryQuote:
Originally Posted by PapaSteel
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09-28-2013, 03:21 AMCuragajaI'm also confident the upgrade to PS4 was free initially as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizar
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09-28-2013, 03:21 AMHed
As others said, you may want to check your sources before you make such wild claims.
I DO agree on one point though. The menu's and such for retainers and whatnot is RIDICULOUS! I'm so tired of clicking my way through the damn menus and putting things away. It takes 5 clicks just to rent a chocobo porter. 1 or 2 of which are chat box skippers. Totally worthless clicks.
Forced dismount to talk to an NPC is great! Otherwise there would be a bunch of jerk offs standing on top of NPC's just for the hell of it. -
09-28-2013, 03:21 AMJizarif you have to click is not AUTO-skipQuote:
Originally Posted by MalcolmReynolds
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09-28-2013, 03:22 AMJizarthey could do the same thing just standing there with the mount without talking to the NPC. there will always be jerks around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hed
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09-28-2013, 03:24 AMcoffeepotzWhy even state it then if you won't provide proof? Ok, internet stranger I'll take your word for it >_>Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizar
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09-28-2013, 03:30 AMOrophin
Well you made it to 50 so I guess you got your free month's worth at least.
So many inaccuracies in your OP. Don't think I'd even want to see whatever your three sites are as they may further incorrectly represent this game. -
09-28-2013, 03:31 AMRiddik
I have never heard WoW or Everquest to be considered sandbox. Ultima Online one of the defining definitions of SandBox but not mentioned sure... But really interesting.... :D
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09-28-2013, 03:32 AMJizarFFXI was Pure Grinding, my post says Grinding or H&S, its just an exampleQuote:
Originally Posted by kollwitz
also edited Sandbox/Themepark, to make easier to understand, Sandbox mean Open world where you can go anywhere and do anything. if you want to categorize any game now days they would not be in one Category... as of wow and ffxiv would be one a "Fantasy, open world with quest, following a Theme from previous games in the series" would you rather write all that or simple put as Sandbox or Themepark? -
09-28-2013, 03:55 AMastrobearIndeedQuote:
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OP if gonna write about something, at least be accurate. -
09-28-2013, 03:56 AMHedThat may be true but you're failing to realize that person on top of the mount or Gobbue mounted completely blocks the NPC. Someone standing there with a chocobo companion would still allow for the clicking of the icon above the NPC's head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizar
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09-28-2013, 04:05 AMJizarim confident that everything is accurate, but the intention of this post is to give people our point of view. Most people tend to emphasize the negative and ignore the possitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by astrobear
If you are happy with the game, go ahead pay for it, and be happy. but if there is something in the game that you do not like, Say something, help them improve the game. -
09-28-2013, 04:37 AMFuz
Excellent post.
The click&click and the abysmal tab targeting are incredibly annoying.
But you forgot to mention somenthing; I believe that what will kill this game will be the visual lag and the netcode. -
09-28-2013, 04:47 AMJizarTrue, they do have to revise that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuz
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09-28-2013, 04:59 AMkollwitzyou wrote gridding. also every MMO uses grinding to some extent..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizar
you write Sandbox/Themepark and don't name any sandbox game.
well i would use the proper genre for them which is themepark (has nothing to do with a theme from previous games tho, just saying)Quote:
as of wow and ffxiv would be one a "Fantasy, open world with quest, following a Theme from previous games in the series" would you rather write all that or simple put as Sandbox or Themepark?
sorry buddy, but your categorization is just totally off :/ -
09-28-2013, 05:43 AMFelisBecause right click open up a submenu and "move item to retainer" is not the only option in this submenu. You can also just drag&drop the item from your inventory to the retainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizar
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09-28-2013, 05:57 AMBruiser_Cruiser
I love this game because it reminds me of runescape. Im sure there will be many improvements made to this game as time goes on and im going to stick with it and lvl everything i can and enjoy the game no matter what! Its awesome how it is. Yes, it needs work for sure but its new i dont expect a fully polished 100 percent perfect mmo right out of the gate. It will get there and im having plenty of enough fun now to justify my sub fee and the 70 dollars i paid for my collectors edition.
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09-28-2013, 06:21 AMufufu
I dunno, I have 8 days left on my free time and I'll be resubbing. Why are people so buttmad? If you enjoy the game, sub. If you don't then don't sub. It's really quite easy.
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09-28-2013, 06:27 AMSilversnowThis site? Chocobo Perneta.Quote:
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Not bored enough to find the other ones. :( -
09-28-2013, 07:00 AMJizarlol, thats the FC site im in... but thanks for taking your time to find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silversnow
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09-28-2013, 07:09 AMJizarIt seems my people got things cross, and I apologize for that. It seems that what they ment by 180 days of free sub. was actually the amount of money saved by Legacy players, since they only pay $9.99 per month, instead of $14.99.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godshelp
I will update the OP with this info. -
09-28-2013, 07:55 AMAyaneKiwaraThe info is still wrong. legacy got the same 7 days as new users.the 9.99 was determined well before any of those issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizar
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09-28-2013, 08:20 AMdanteafk
All of OPs points are valid and should concern SE a lot.
This game has major flaws. -
09-28-2013, 08:22 AMdanteafkYes, in the current MMO market in 2013, if a publisher and developer that failed already once, is coming back with something that is not 100% perfect, he flawed and should feel ashamed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruiser_Cruiser
I mean, they are not the first once that are doing such mistakes, yet still doing mistakes. -
09-28-2013, 08:30 AMamnie
I love how the ONE source he linked actually says something different than what he claims. the Sociologist in me (funny enough I plan to work in the gaming industry demographics in the future) is almost literally rolling on the floor laughing right now.
if you site a source, make sure you understand what you're reading, buddy.
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cute. you think that me telling you to check your sources means I don't know how to get the sources. I can't do more than tell you that this is what I basically do on a daily basis. but yes.. I'm the lazy one. sure :) -
09-28-2013, 08:58 AMJizarThat was an example and it was from 2011, since you seem to be lazy not to do your own research. heres one for you from 2012-2013Quote:
Originally Posted by amnie
http://www.globalcollect.com/online-...ce-and-Trends/