Dont kill the lambs!

Omg..... I felt like I was going to end up dead after I wanted to complete the fate(DD). People were shouting left and right blist this person! And sending very rude tells. Sorry I committed such a crime! I dont wanna stand around 15mins spamming aoe on mobs, that's not fun, I just wanted to get my exp and get out of there.

Its funny because most that I know of are older(just look at the show yourself thread) and acting like little kids.

Yes but to most people present it is fun AND profitable, experience-wise. Why ruin that for them because you want to save some time to hurry up and wait for more FATEs to spawn?

Because some people are there for seals and not for exp, maybe.

Yep, and now because of your poor judgement you have been blacklisted by who knows how many people. You may want to reroll so your character doesn't become the most hated person on the server. Next time don't kill the lamb, that type of behavior will not be tolerated!

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Originally Posted by Nahctwyda

Yes but to most people present it is fun AND profitable, experience-wise. Why ruin that for them because you want to save some time to hurry up and wait for more FATEs to spawn?

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So I have to sacrifice my fun for others? Ok!!!

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Originally Posted by PsychologyPhD

Yep, and now because of your poor judgement you have been blacklisted by who knows how many people. You may want to reroll so your character doesn't become the most hated person on the server. Next time don't kill the lamb, that type of behavior will not be tolerated!

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So my behavior is wrong and why they did is right? Sure thing bud!

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Originally Posted by Nahctwyda

Yes but to most people present it is fun AND profitable, experience-wise. Why ruin that for them because you want to save some time to hurry up and wait for more FATEs to spawn?

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It profits the lazy people who do nothing but FATE farm all day in parties. Individuals who are not able to get into a party or like myself, do not see the point in it, gain no benefit from your skill-less AoE-fest, we want our seals.

Ending the FATE 'early' and grinding out the FATE are both acceptable methods of playing DD and you have no right to stop the players who want their seals and end-of-FATE exp. Suck it up and move on to your next one.

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Originally Posted by ErBear

So I have to sacrifice my fun for others? Ok!!!

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Would it really hurt you to skip 9k xp? Instead, you're making them skip a possible 100k worth of xp. Nice to see so many selfish people around here.

Thanks for the heads up.

I thought that contribution was capped on FATEs so what is the point of prolonging the event?
Is it the xp/drops off the incoming trash mobs? *genuine question*

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Originally Posted by ErBear

So I have to sacrifice my fun for others? Ok!!!

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There's plenty other place to level if you dont want to farm fate. North Thal is a place where fate should be farmed for max efficiency. If you want to play another way than most people you're welcome to do it, just dont do it in North thal and then ruin everyone experience for your own pleasure. Kinda selfish.

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Originally Posted by Luthia

Would it really hurt you to skip 9k xp? Instead, you're making them skip a possible 100k worth of xp. Nice to see so many selfish people around here.

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The fate take minutes and you end up with 70k at the end of it on top of the seals. Why you being selfish on telling me how to play

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Originally Posted by Joshhoowah

Thanks for the heads up.

I thought that contribution was capped on FATEs so what is the point of prolonging the event?
Is it the xp/drops off the incoming trash mobs? *genuine question*

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The XP from trash mobs can be worth quite a lot to many people. It's a faster way to level for sure. I wouldn't want to be the person to kill the lambs...

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Originally Posted by PsychologyPhD

Yep, and now because of your poor judgement you have been blacklisted by who knows how many people. You may want to reroll so your character doesn't become the most hated person on the server. Next time don't kill the lamb, that type of behavior will not be tolerated!

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They will never know who is killing the lambs. It's funny, i've seen people rage when a stray aggro pulls one into the aoe fest, and they just assume it's someone killing them, even though no one is even doing it. I would laugh really hard if Square secretly patched in some lambs being linked to the ones aoed, so you pull them, you pull lambs. The rage would be sweet, and it would be much more challenging and skilled if people could kill all but the lambs not using aoe.

Also, my blacklist is near full of gil sellers, something as minor as killing the lambs (for whatever reason) just doesn't cut it. Relax, it's a video game.

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Originally Posted by Luthia

Would it really hurt you to skip 9k xp? Instead, you're making them skip a possible 100k worth of xp. Nice to see so many selfish people around here.

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Nice to see so many lazy people around here.

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Originally Posted by Dorin

Nice to see so many lazy people around here.

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Since when playing games their way is lazy? And since when spending more time on games is not lazy?
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It's your prerogative to kill lambs when asked not to, it's their prerogative to blist you for it. Working as designed.

OP can shed a river of tears it doesn't matter because Yoshi has said it isn't an exploit. Calling each other selfish while demanding they play your way is hypocritical on both ends.

If you have a problem with it then take it up with the devs because the players are merely maxing their xp/hour. I don't even have a 50 yet but my guess is that after your quests dry up leveling a few classes to 50 then maxing xp/hour in FATES is all there is to do and it's not worth the sacrifice so whiners can RP or feel "immersed" or w/e.

blist and fates are working as intended. You got what you deserve and if I were there I would blist you too.

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They will never know who is killing the lambs. It's funny, i've seen people rage when a stray aggro pulls one into the aoe fest, and they just assume it's someone killing them, even though no one is even doing it. I would laugh really hard if Square secretly patched in some lambs being linked to the ones aoed, so you pull them, you pull lambs. The rage would be sweet, and it would be much more challenging and skilled if people could kill all but the lambs not using aoe.

Also, my blacklist is near full of gil sellers, something as minor as killing the lambs (for whatever reason) just doesn't cut it. Relax, it's a video game.

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Doesn't really matter who did it, it is the fact that it will happen. See people in general are pretty interesting and under certain conditions a really phenomenal phenomenon happens! This cognitive bias has been coined as group-think. someone puts some poor sap on blast in /shout telling people to blacklist, a number of people (having the emotional response of being pissed someone ruined their exp grind) have a knee jerk reaction + simple forces of conformity and boom that poor person guilty or not is screwed.

I had to gtfo of that area after hanging around for a couple days. SOOOO much trash talking and yelling at each other, name calling, blist threats , report threats. ALL BECAUSE of a frikin FATE. That fate is not the only one you can maximize/farm xp in, anything that requires you turn in certain stuff allows it. Like the golem heartrt fate thats around lvl 30 or w/e, the goblin fate with crates.. they everywhere. Do the fate how you want, someone wants to cry because it didn't go their way and blist you then let them. But don't let them walk all over you talking a bunch of trash, telling you to kill yourself and do the world a favor and the likes.. report them nasty people. If you were really doing something wrong, would the fate end?

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Originally Posted by Luthia

Would it really hurt you to skip 9k xp? Instead, you're making them skip a possible 100k worth of xp. Nice to see so many selfish people around here.

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This. Also, the DD crowd will ignore other FATEs while DD is active. Go hit up those other fates. You'll probably get more seals in the same amount of time.

hahaha with all the blacklisting going on this is gonna be one heck of a crowded singleplayer game :)

but its one fate among 100 so why just not have a heart and leave that one bone to the dogs

I don't really know nor care about the details of the situation, but remember that you are sharing this game with other players. Your singular solo experience isn't as important as you think it is. You may be paying $15 a month to play how you want, but the collective rest of the players are paying far more than your drop of water in an ocean of a subscription fee. The needs of the many outweigh your own personal agenda.
You can play however you want to, but don't whine about the consequences of your own actions.

If you are going to be a troll at least be good at it. You knew that killing the lambs would upset people, you didn’t care and killed them fine. But don’t come crying here when you troll people and they didn’t like you for it.

Please someone tell me where this fate spawns. Me and my chocobo will wreck that lamb. Let the raging commence!

I kill lambs as soon as I can, just to hear the delicious white hot rage of fate spammers.

on ultros there is a whole guild who job is to ruin that FATE for everyone. Thats all they do is ruin the FATE. Its pretty funny actually

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Originally Posted by Mazley

on ultros there is a whole guild who job is to ruin that FATE for everyone. Thats all they do is ruin the FATE. Its pretty funny actually

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I thinkg thats rather sad Actually. On Hyperino there was this one guy doing the same, Lvl 50 full DL killing lambs soon as they spawned. Guy must have wsted at least five hours doing this just to spite others.

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Originally Posted by Mazley

on ultros there is a whole guild who job is to ruin that FATE for everyone. Thats all they do is ruin the FATE. Its pretty funny actually

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wow that's sad. I actually feel bad for the people in that guild, not one adult in there.

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Originally Posted by rabbitzero

I would laugh really hard if Square secretly patched in some lambs being linked to the ones aoed, so you pull them, you pull lambs. The rage would be sweet, and it would be much more challenging and skilled if people could kill all but the lambs not using aoe.

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Now that would be awesome. I would literally buy cake and cola or something, and enjoy watching the players use single-hit spells or AoE and see the rage fold out.

I don't kill the lambs early myself in DD, but whenever lambs are killed (even with 5 minutes left) and people begin to rage because they will 'lose' 3 minutes of exp, I never feel sorry for those 'poor' souls. No, I feel entertained reading the chat as the rage folds out. And that comes from one who takes part in this mindless trash mob AoE'ing.

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Originally Posted by ErBear

So I have to sacrifice my fun for others? Ok!!!

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So others have to sacrifice their fun for yours? Based on your story there was one person wanting it their way (You) while everyone else was happy doing their thing (Fate Parties), but your right totally everyone else's fault.

So think of it this way, the only reason to kill it quick is to get more seals from other fates you would miss if you grind with people the hole time. Do this instead, kill enough mobs for Gold, ~2min be more than enough, then go do the other fates that spawn that very few people will help with. When they should about to start killing lambs, you run back down and are there for the start of the next leg of the chain.

Guess what just happened, you got gold on each fate, got all your seals/exp AND you didnt piss anyone off and everyone got to farm their exp they wanted. PROBLEM SOLVED.

and p.s., if this fate ever gets changed it will be to stop the fast kill of lambs since they said grinding the exp off mobs was part of the intended use of the fate and its those killing it quick who create the abuse, so complain about the abuse all you want so they make it a permanent grind fest 10+min phase 1 of chain.

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Originally Posted by ErBear

Omg..... I felt like I was going to end up dead after I wanted to complete the fate(DD). People were shouting left and right blist this person! And sending very rude tells. Sorry I committed such a crime! I dont wanna stand around 15mins spamming aoe on mobs, that's not fun, I just wanted to get my exp and get out of there.

Its funny because most that I know of are older(just look at the show yourself thread) and acting like little kids.

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That fate can yield 100k exp or so if you leave the lambs alive, you obviously know this and wanted ruin it for everyone else there. Some people just want to make others upset and mess with them you seem like you are one of these people. If you are there for exp it doesn't help to end the fate early and get the 10k. If your goal was to get exp then you would follow the directions of everyone else.

I BList people who kill lambs.

Mainly because they do it for selfish reasons. They know what happens when you kill them, they do it on purpose.

That's just a form of poor trolling from douchebags. I don't mind adding them to my BL, because if they act like that, why would I want to interact with them again?

From now on I'll eventually go to that FATE when I'm bored just to kill the lambs and leave.

Gotta make those lazy automatons who can just brainlessly spam AOEs rage.

I still don't understand why all you ppl get upset. I get it i really do its alot of xp to give up. But getting all up in arms about it is a waste of time

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Originally Posted by Dorin

From now on I'll eventually go to that FATE when I'm bored just to kill the lambs and leave.

Gotta make those lazy automatons who can just brainlessly spam AOEs rage.

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oh look! we've got a badass over here

I couldn't help but laugh at the passion displayed in this thread. There are numerous threads debating on weather that fate is bugged or if that one in particular is supposed to go on for an extended period of time. I made the personal choice to steer clear of it. weather its an exploit or not idk. I haven't found any credible source to point one way or another.

be conscious of the event, and make your choice before joining the fate. No point in debating the sides till SE clarifies.

EDIT: if some one more computer savvy than I cant find a link where SE clearly discusses that fate and if its working as intended/being exploited please post it.

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Originally Posted by Odins_wrath

I couldn't help but laugh at the passion displayed in this thread. There are numerous threads debating on weather that fate is bugged or if that one in particular is supposed to go on for an extended period of time. I made the personal choice to steer clear of it. weather its an exploit or not idk. I haven't found any credible source to point one way or another.

be conscious of the event, and make your choice before joining the fate. No point in debating the sides till SE clarifies.

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One of the devs said it's designed that way intentionally just the other day so it's not an exploit. Feel free to abuse it with the rest with no fear of repercussion.

But I did this fate once after finding out it gives an achievement as a level 50 and just wanted to get it done so I killed the lambs. Oh the rage. The sheer, unadulterated rage.

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Originally Posted by Odins_wrath

I couldn't help but laugh at the passion displayed in this thread. There are numerous threads debating on weather that fate is bugged or if that one in particular is supposed to go on for an extended period of time. I made the personal choice to steer clear of it. weather its an exploit or not idk. I haven't found any credible source to point one way or another.

be conscious of the event, and make your choice before joining the fate. No point in debating the sides till SE clarifies.

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mod said it's not an exploit: "Hello,

Since there seems to be a lot of questions and concerns as to whether this is an exploit, I wanted to clarify that the way this FATE functions as well as others similar to it are working as intended and it is not an exploit."

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...15#post1329015