So how will PvP work?

Will it be melee running on the skirts of a kiter getting spammed "you are not in range" or will it be casters and interrupters whipping out the rosary beads and lucky dice when it come to cast bar juking?

EDIT: If it wasn't obvious then this post is about the server delay and how it will work in a non scripted environment.

With the inherently significant delay that everyone gets due to servers updating positions every. 3 seconds or whatever, I can reasonably assume that pvp will be a massive shitfest with more emphasis on luck rather than skill.

But hey, at least the armor sets look cool.

I think it'll be both, with BRD's dominating because of nearly full dps capability while mobile. Meanwhile, PLD's will only deal damage during Shield Bash stun, WAR's only during Brutal Swing/Holmgang (if they're lucky and lag doesn't root them out of range) and caster's will be stuck using instants except for the times where they are able to CC someone long enough to get a cast off.

I envision parties of BRD's with a single healer zoning in and just focus firing the enemy to death without losing more than 10-20% of their teams overall health in the process.

The healer would be totally unnecessary. Unless there are some absolutely mind-shattering PvP abilities to change the balance, 4 bards will dominate.

yeah, i dunno. i hope they fix the melee range issues. as it is PvP is pretty much going to be a ranged-only affair.

Well DRG has spinshatter dive, which lunges the character towards the target. But also, I would hope teams work together to OUTSMART the enemy team rather than OUTPOWER them.

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Originally Posted by MrKupo

Well DRG has spinshatter dive, which lunges the character towards the target. But also, I would hope teams work together to OUTSMART the enemy team rather than OUTPOWER them.

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You cannot outsmart the ability of someone to continuously move away from you at full speed while doing full damage to you.

Please note that Yoshida has informed us that players will get a totally different skillset than the one employed as battle classes for PvP. As is, their current skills are balanced only for PvE. Making a separate skillset for PvP removes the need to balance them for one another, and thus creating classic "flavors of the month," where classes go through cycles of whose better for what. And because of this, all these arguments about what skills are most useful amount to nothing but smoke.

At the current rate, PVP IS Something I would not wish to participate in on my main, which is MNK.

I honestly don't feel like getting kited to death by BRDs, and even with shoulder tackle gap closer, chasing them, right on top of them, and skill saying out of range anyway.

Unless they give a special pvp ability per class that causes heavy, then this'll be a massive lulzfest of BRD.

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Originally Posted by Balaur

Please note that Yoshida has informed us that players will get a totally different skillset than the one employed as battle classes for PvP. As is, their current skills are balanced only for PvE. Making a separate skillset for PvP removes the need to balance them for one another, and thus creating classic "flavors of the month," where classes go through cycles of whose better for what. And because of this, all these arguments about what skills are most useful amount to nothing but smoke.

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Calling 100% bullshit that SE will actually go through with this. They'll release PVP with all the same abilities and say they'll create a separate system some time later (never).

I'm fairly certain classes will get "additional" abilities for PvP, but they are not having their skills entirely reworked for PvP, this was explained clearly as they do not wish for users to have to completely relearn their class as if they are playing it for the first time in PvP. You can expect the obligatory get-out-of-CC abilities etc. But not an entire PvP overhaul.

I have to say that from the few videos I have seen...it didn't really impress me. Of course the overall experience will be dependent upon the so called PVP skillset that battle classes will have that are supposedly designed for PVP in mind. If done correctly it could be a lot of fun..if done incorrectly it will be a chaotic nightmare for everyone..but especially for mages with are crazy cast times.

I can see it now "No line of sight on your target"..over and over as they run behind a well placed wall and my attack is cancelled out.

Im thinking they will let Tanks be Tanks in PvP. Let Enmity stack up as a damage reduction debuff, clearing only if the Target starts attacking the tank who applied it. Would make for some very interesting clashes with the Tanks capable of protecting their healers.
An easy, and i do mean easy way to fix bards for PvP, is to simply change the potency on their skills to be low while moving. Something like the Monk positional damage bonuses, let the Bards get 'Steady Aim' when they stop for 2 seconds, which buffs the potencies of their shots back to normal. Now they're normal damage while moving, But great damage if they stop and take aim.

Bards mobility won't be nearly as much of a problem as it is standing around for up to 30 seconds at a time as WHMs and BLMs lock you down with sleeps while they pick off your team one by one.

They need to address both issues however. Beyond that it'll just be a bunch of silly bads QQing, which I always laugh at in every PvP game.

BRD will be king/easy-mode and melee will be shat upon.

It won't :)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ific-answer%29

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...less-rewarding. (official response: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...94#post1333794)

The only way I can see this working, is by making threat abilities force that person to attack the taunter.

Otherwise BRDs will dominate.

PvP sounds fun. I hope you will be able to gain exp 30+, it would be a nice alternate way to level up!

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The only way I can see this working, is by making threat abilities force that person to attack the taunter.

Otherwise BRDs will dominate.

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Actually, in a 2v2 and etc. BLM+BLM or BLM+WHM will steamroll a 2xBRD mainly because of that massive fricken sleep. Any BLM and/or WHM stacked team will be on top, just cause sleep would be overpowered beyond believe unless it has severe diminishing returns.

Casting skills without having to face your target.. hmmm... Best pinger wins..? :D

PvP will be great.

Dual box, spirit bonding high level gear will never be easier.

I'd be surprised if they didn't implement a sleep break, a snare for melee, a knockback for healers, and others as the original skills we're getting for pvp.