Crystal Tower

developer blog updated with some screenshots from the crystal tower here: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/

looks pretty cool! can't wait till 2.1

When is 2.1 :( can't wait!

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Originally Posted by Theref

When is 2.1 :( can't wait!

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It's in November.

Would be nice if the video had a subtitle option, lol.

according to something I read somewhere it will probably be late october early november. I don't remember where I saw it but yoshi said it's definitelly this year or they will be overloaded with work with the ps4 beta and all that is coming next year.

"Extremely Strong"

Apparently there is no communication between departments.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

"Extremely Strong"

Apparently there is no communication between departments.

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^---- THIS!
I remember reading that Crystal tower was being added to duty finder and would be a place for "everyone" to enjoy.

So.... Which is Coil of Bahamut stronger or Crystal Tower? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Slatervonjager

It's in November.

Would be nice if the video had a subtitle option, lol.

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Can you source that

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Originally Posted by Kairgon

So.... Which is Coil of Bahamut stronger or Crystal Tower? :confused:

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I was of the understanding Coil was stronger.


Wait so these are just re-hashed bosses from FFIII? That just seems kind of lazy.

I predict tower will have iLVL 80 lootz.

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Originally Posted by Gortox

I predict tower will have iLVL 80 lootz.

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It's not a prediction if it was already confirmed :X haha

And yes, Coil was supposed to be harder, you gear yourself with CT to take on Coil easier.

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Originally Posted by Slatervonjager

It's in November.

Would be nice if the video had a subtitle option, lol.

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Where you get November from? I was thinking more of Early-Mid December. Since they kind of hinted at the end of the TGS Live Day 2 that they want to do the usual Producer Letter Lives every month up till 2.1's release. Then they go into saying that they want to try and make the Producer Letter Live to one topic talk, first one being Housing, then next one for Wolves' Den. And on the Game Watch interview asks when 2.1 is and YoshiP says within this year, then goes into saying they want to get it out before the end of the year as it will get into different problems (probably due to other companies going on holidays, etc.)

So my guess for patch 2.1 would be Early-Mid December, although I would be happy if it was November.

November we'll be getting the FFXIII Lightning F.A.T.E. released on 11/14 so we may see some things updated at the same time, specially addition of basic basic sort feature. (Full on sort supposed to come later)

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Originally Posted by MartaDemireux

It's not a prediction if it was already confirmed :X haha

And yes, Coil was supposed to be harder, you gear yourself with CT to take on Coil easier.

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ilvl 80 loot was confirmed??

Just because its confirmed it will not be as hard as coil I don't believe that confirms the exact ilvl loot will be?

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Originally Posted by Gortox

ilvl 80 loot was confirmed??

Just because its confirmed it will not be as hard as coil I don't believe that confirms the exact ilvl loot will be?

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Believe he said it in one of the 2 TGS live letters.

My best guess is November 14th, as that is when they stated the Lightning cross-over thing is going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Voormund

...Wait so these are just re-hashed bosses from FFIII? That just seems kind of lazy.

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They're going to have to render and animate them from scratch based off decades old inanimate sprites. Then completely re-imagine their AI to function in a radically different game. Shameless fanservice? Maybe. Lazy? No.

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Originally Posted by Obreck

They're going to have to render and animate them from scratch based off decades old inanimate sprites. Then completely re-imagine their AI to function in a radically different game. Shameless fanservice? Maybe. Lazy? No.

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FF3 was remade for the NDS and again for the iOS so they already had models to get an idea from.

Crystal Tower is the more casual content that you actually use DF for. Coil is the raid you take your FC group to do. Crystal Tower was suppose to launch with the game but it wasn't ready yet. It makes sense that it drops lower level gear because its easier and you can DF it.

To be quite honest, from the pics and the TGS vid, the design of it to me looks at the very best boring o___o Purely talking about the aesthetics of what we were shown so far, but I guess I'll have to wait and see whar it ACTUALLY looks like once it's in the game. Dunno, judging by the exterior pics (which I loved) I was expecting something.... prettier?

Looks like a new map pack DLC for some Halo game.

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

To be quite honest, from the pics and the TGS vid, the design of it to me looks at the very best boring o___o Purely talking about the aesthetics of what we were shown so far, but I guess I'll have to wait and see whar it ACTUALLY looks like once it's in the game. Dunno, judging by the exterior pics (which I loved) I was expecting something.... prettier?

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you do understand that, those images were actually, ancients maze right? In original FF3 you had to go through that first to get inside crystal tower, they are doing same here.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

you do understand that, those images were actually, ancients maze right? In original FF3 you had to go through that first to get inside crystal tower, they are doing same here.

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Right, I do understand that and I am sorry to say that my eyes are not being pleased. Then again, when you have mobs swarming a 24-man raid I doubt I'll have the time to even pay attention to anything but the laser show.

they shouldnt wait for 2.1 to introduce CT :/ it was an initial content and now things are messed....people already with ilvl 90 and farming only AK for mythos its so annoying and so are monday AK queues.

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Originally Posted by Obreck

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Oh heavens, you mean to tell me they might have to actually do work?!? How terrible that must be for them!

It's not so much to do with the amount of work of "rendering" (and I doubt they'll need to render them since the source material already exists) and animating the physical models, it's lazy in the sense that instead of taking the time to come up with a dungeon that has some overarching tie-in with the story of this game or at least some form of original set of fights specific to this game they just pulled a dungeon from one of the old FF's that gives them the ability to pretty quickly pack in a bunch of bosses that have nothing to do with this game as an easy fix for those asking for more content. I liked FFIII, but if I wanted to fight those bosses again, I would just go play that. I was just hoping they would put more thought into something unique, not just essentially more filler content with no substance to it - I feel like there's plenty of that already.

But to burst your bubble a little bit there, there have been at least two 3D remakes of FFIII that I know of, and the mechanics of the fights won't be anything that isn't a variation of something that is already in the game so lets not get too carried away with the description of the process. Don't get me wrong, I hope I'm absolutely wrong and they blow me away with how cool this dungeon is but if all the dungeons are just going to be re-imaginings old FF bosses - I mean what's the point of even putting in the backstory of this game?

iirc the crystal tower is supposed to expand on the main storyline, probably why its being DF'd

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Originally Posted by Voormund

Don't get me wrong, I hope I'm absolutely wrong and they blow me away with how cool this dungeon is but if all the dungeons are just going to be re-imaginings old FF bosses - I mean what's the point of even putting in the backstory of this game?

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It was mentioned a long time ago that they were going to throw a lot of old FF references into ARR, dungeons, story, certain fights, whatever. If thats really gonna bother you, might want to look for another game to play. I personally welcome the "rehashed" content. Its fun to fight old bosses with your own character years later after seeing it the first time in sprite/chip-tune format with different heroes altogether. My personal favorite so far was getting to see Demon Wall again. Loved the FF4 version, FF7 was barely a nod though, so this was nice.

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Originally Posted by Voormund

But to burst your bubble a little bit there, there have been at least two 3D remakes of FFIII that I know of, and the mechanics of the fights won't be anything that isn't a variation of something that is already in the game so lets not get too carried away with the description of the process. Don't get me wrong, I hope I'm absolutely wrong and they blow me away with how cool this dungeon is but if all the dungeons are just going to be re-imaginings old FF bosses - I mean what's the point of even putting in the backstory of this game?

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It doesn't mess up the backstory. They have already mentioned that any fan service boss will have reason to be here. Maybe you never played FFIII, but the crystal tower exists outside time and space, and can cross dimensions, therefore, it can be easily explained why it would be here. Same with why Lightening can actually make sense here. Valhalla is the place between worlds.

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Originally Posted by Voormund

I was of the understanding Coil was stronger..

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So as I did. Until i saw the part of "Extremely Strong" Which got me curious..
Since you will be climbing the tower. Meaning as higher it get and it'd be stronger Obviously. And if they label as Extremely Strong, meaning some of boss from there could be harder than few floor of Coil of Bahamut is what I'm curious about.

I feel like i said it wrong... Sorry if its confusing grammar.

I want that "I BEAT TITAN" shirt that one guy is wearing in the first video.

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Originally Posted by Voormund

Oh heavens, you mean to tell me they might have to actually do work?!? How terrible that must be for them!

stuff about ignorance

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They're not going to port DS models into one of the prettier FF games. They're going to remake, re-animate, and re-render the models as they should be - an FFXIV reimagine of FFIII bosses.

Plus, FFXIV isn't a turn-based game with an ATB battle system, or anything even remotely close to the handhelds. They'll have to reimagine the mechanics to work with the system already in place.

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Originally Posted by Voormund;1331141it's lazy in the sense that instead of taking the time to come up with a dungeon that has some overarching tie-in with the story of [i

this[/i] game or at least some form of original set of fights specific to this game

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From what I've read, they are making Xande into Xandes, an allagan king entombed within. The tie in has been made. If you don't like it, well that sucks. Luckily I do.

Could be spoiler for those that didn't play FF3 so going to hide it.

Since they are going to go full out with FF3 style Crystal Tower, wonder if we're going to get the dungeon after the Crystal Tower with Warriors of Dark, I already see the art for Cloud of Darkness, which was the final boss in the last dungeon after Crystal Tower. Crystal Towers final boss was Xande.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Could be spoiler for those that didn't play FF3 so going to hide it.

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Dude if they did that I would have a fanboygasm all over the place. Considering they have the maze beforehand and the crystal tower, I imagine that they would add the last part in <3

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Originally Posted by Arcturius

Dude if they did that I would have a fanboygasm all over the place. Considering they have the maze beforehand and the crystal tower, I imagine that they would add the last part in <3

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Also /10char

Yep, and if they had that last dungeon BGM arranged, my head would explode. Was one of my favorite BGM's in III, FF3 had so many BGM's that made me just want to leave the game on at that specific part to listen for hours (NES version BGM)

Eureka was one of them... That just remided me... We also got to go through Eureka to enter Crystal Tower... LOL...

Wonder if they adding parts of this BGM inside somewhere - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELkQwHhCXpA

I really don't see the hype for Crystal Tower. It's going to drop ilevel gear WORSE than Coil. Seems genuinely better to just farm AK, WC, and Coil.

And a 24 man instance? :/ Really? Groups cap at eight. So why four separate groups?

Unless there's a new group feature I'm not aware of coming in 2.1.

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Originally Posted by Blindfate

I really don't see the hype for Crystal Tower. It's going to drop ilevel gear WORSE than Coil. Seems genuinely better to just farm AK, WC, and Coil.

And a 24 man instance? :/ Really? Groups cap at eight. So why four separate groups?

Unless there's a new group feature I'm not aware of coming in 2.1.

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For some of us, FFXIV:ARR isn't just about getting best gear, it's experiencing the Final Fantasy inside a MMORPG.

I doubt they'll add these in Crystal Tower later but in FF3 all the Legendary weapons (Excalibur, Ragnarok, Masamune, Elders Rod, etc) came from there (specifically dungeon inside the Crystal Tower, mentioned in my previous post), for gear wise listening to what YoshiP said at TGS, we can assume Genji set to be coming from Crystal Tower and probably Crystal gear set <--- this one is just my guess.

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Originally Posted by Blindfate

I really don't see the hype for Crystal Tower. It's going to drop ilevel gear WORSE than Coil. Seems genuinely better to just farm AK, WC, and Coil.

And a 24 man instance? :/ Really? Groups cap at eight. So why four separate groups?

Unless there's a new group feature I'm not aware of coming in 2.1.

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three groups, not four

There could be 3 rooms, in every room a boss and all three bosses need to die at the same time (just an idea)

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

For some of us, FFXIV:ARR isn't just about getting best gear, it's experiencing the Final Fantasy inside a MMORPG.

I doubt they'll add these in Crystal Tower later but in FF3 all the Legendary weapons (Excalibur, Ragnarok, Masamune, Elders Rod, etc) came from there (specifically dungeon inside the Crystal Tower, mentioned in my previous post), for gear wise listening to what YoshiP said at TGS, we can assume Genji set to be coming from Crystal Tower and probably Crystal gear set <--- this one is just my guess.

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So much this. I mean really, once you have the best gear, its kinda game over till next patch. Experiencing the story they laid out first hand is the fun part. Also, if they add crystal gear that'll make my day.

This game needs transmutation where you can keep the skin of an item.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Also /10char

Yep, and if they had that last dungeon BGM arranged, my head would explode. Was one of my favorite BGM's in III, FF3 had so many BGM's that made me just want to leave the game on at that specific part to listen for hours (NES version BGM)

Eureka was one of them... That just remided me... We also got to go through Eureka to enter Crystal Tower... LOL...

Wonder if they adding parts of this BGM inside somewhere - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELkQwHhCXpA

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How about those shops at the end of Eureka? Maybe they'll make an end game town for everyone who makes it through Eureka, if it's in? :D