raid 24 easier ??

WHY ??? ive jsut read that on a news from tgs ... The 24man raid will be easier than Bahamut coil, is that a hilarous JOKE ??

I take it you're upset because you've cleared the Binding Coil of Bahamut and have it on farm?

It is not a joke, but we do not know to what degree.

We are assuming 5 floors.

Floor one will be as hard as Ifrit, Floor 2-3 Garuda Floor 4 Titan Floor 5 First two turns in Coil.

It is meant to be a gear gateway to Coil. But easier doesn't mean not challenging. Expect Geared FC's to clear it in 2-3 weeks, Df 2 - 3 months

What you're not excited for Casual Tower?

since you missed the info, since the beginning crystal tower come first then binding coil on raid progression. It was postponed because he needed more fine-tuning because too difficult

the crystal tower (ilv80 gear) has always been before the coil (ilv90 gear) in progression, so why would it not be easier?

The start of the crystal tower is basically story content, and coil is true endgame, so why once again would it not be easier?

Just because they had to hold it back at 2.0 to 2.1 does not change where the raid goes in terms of progression. Why did they say only 100 players will down all 5 turns of coil before 2.1? mainly because we are missing the tower for gear progression and with the decreased rate without it only a very small number will be skilled enough to get it done based on the amount of gear they can obtain between release and 2.1.

Actually, it makes a lot of sense that 24-men content is easier than 8-men content.

a 24-men alliance is harder to ORGANIZE and recruit than a 8-men full party, yes, but the difficulty stops the minute the alliance steps on the dungeon. With each individual player only being responsible for 1/24 of the total sum of contribution to the group effort, there's much more room for individual players to make mistakes (or even die) without compromising the boss try as a whole. That in and of itself is a factor that makes 24-men content inherently easier.

In other words... When an individual player screws up, that has much more impact in a 8-men full party than on a 24-men alliance. People on 8-men full party content have a much smaller margin of error.

crystal tower was always meant to be before binding coil.

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Floor one will be as hard as Ifrit, Floor 2-3 Garuda Floor 4 Titan Floor 5 First two turns in Coil.

It is meant to be a gear gateway to Coil. But easier doesn't mean not challenging. Expect Geared FC's to clear it in 2-3 weeks, Df 2 - 3 months

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Based on this difficulty curve I'd cut that estimate to 2-3 days, especially if ilvl requirements are below Coil. As it stands right now with our FC we'll have our full 24 man group in primarily ilvl 90 gear/relic +1 before CT comes out.

With that said, I do hope you're right. If the fights have really fun/challenging mechanics rather than a gear requirement then it'll still be a decent showing. I'm really hoping they don't just get steamrolled... But again, it also means that we're going to be severely lacking on potential gear upgrades/end-game content until 2.2. We'll see how long a Twintania kill eludes us I guess :P

People want it easer ! Live with it, ARR is gonna turn into another mmorpg out there and F2P in year.

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My statement is only cause just that, Allagon loot is far better than CT loot most likely (depending on the stat priorities. 90 > 80) So I expect guilds to still focus on their 1-4 Turn farm then CT, cutting their time dedicated to CT shorter. Plus getting used to 24 man alliances will take a small adjustment to figure out optimal LBs, which I assume are Party specific, IE we will have 3 LBs building.

The hard part is getting 23 other people who can stand you long enough to run it.

crystal tower was going to be the raid befor coil but was nt attuned/finshed for launch so they pushed it back. from what i understand its going to be LFR from WoW. alot of people will hate it, but w/e.

No it wont be LFR, it will be compared to Normal Difficulty.. Speed cleared and farmed heavily by the top Free Companies, Cleared Slowly and average by the majority, and full cleared in the next months by average DF group

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No it wont be LFR, it will be compared to Normal Difficulty.. Speed cleared and farmed heavily by the top Free Companies, Cleared Slowly and average by the majority, and full cleared in the next months by average DF group

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my point is it will be accessable from DF

lol, what is this DF guys will take months longer than someone in a organized group.. seriously lol? Do you guys really hold yourself that high up, does only the worst players use DF?

Ifrit, first try DF. garuda first try DF , chimera no DF random guys 2nd try , hydra no DF random guys first try , AK DF, pretty easy to get even a half competent DF group to speed CM in sub 35 min, sure you lose 10 min BIG DEAL.. It might take people a week or 2 from duty finder but months.. lols

going to be doing titan with DF to just because I was told it couldn't be done. I'm not geared up enough for it yet, so few more days and I will be.

some of you people are funny

If anyhting, DF is the true Hardcore mode.. you dont get to build the team around specific mechanics that make it go easier for you. you get what you get , then work with it and rejoice in the glory of beating the snot out of it with a random group of chill people.

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lol, what is this DF guys will take months longer than someone in a organized group.. seriously lol? Do you guys really hold yourself that high up, does only the worst players use DF?

Ifrit, first try DF. garuda first try DF , chimera no DF random guys 2nd try , hydra no DF random guys first try , AK DF, pretty easy to get even a half competent DF group to speed CM in sub 35 min, sure you lose 10 min BIG DEAL.. It might take people a week or 2 from duty finder but months.. lols

going to be doing titan with DF to just because I was told it couldn't be done. I'm not geared up enough for it yet, so few more days and I will be.

some of you people are funny

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it's more about the coordination that is need to run content is generally harder to come by in DF/LFR imo