Byregot's Blessing?

Can any level 50 carpenters confirm that this ends the Inner Quiet effect? And does the +% remain after you use Byregot's Blessing the first time?

Example (theoretical):

On a synthesis, I use Inner Quiet then use Hasty Touch 5 times. This should put Byregot's at 100% + (20% x 5) = 200%.

When I use Byregot's the first time, does the efficiency % drop back down? Or does it remain at 200% until the synthesis is complete/failed?

Using Byregot's Blessing removes Inner Quiet, even if the Touch fails (due to no Steady Hands).

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Originally Posted by Rehwyn

Using Byregot's Blessing removes Inner Quiet, even if the Touch fails (due to no Steady Hands).

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Thanks Reh. Does that mean the efficiency % resets as well? Or does it stay at 200% after 5 touches with IQ up?

Bryegots/Rumination are to be used at the end of your synthing rotation, depending on whether you need more CP or the finishing HQ touches. They remove inner quiet, and thus all benefits associated with inner quiet. (Such as bryegots quality increase)

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Originally Posted by Laryndra

Bryegots/Rumination are to be used at the end of your synthing rotation, depending on whether you need more CP or the finishing HQ touches. They remove inner quiet, and thus all benefits associated with inner quiet. (Such as bryegots quality increase)

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Essentially this. The efficiency of Byregot's is based on your Inner Quiet at the time you use Byregot's. Typically, on any serious synthesis I'll set it up so my last touch action is a Great Strides + Byregot's for massive quality.

Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like its only real use is GS + BB as the last touch action, which is still nice. It'll be a cheaper, more efficient, GS + ST.

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Originally Posted by Kismet

Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like its only real use is GS + BB as the last touch action, which is still nice. It'll be a cheaper, more efficient, GS + ST.

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Yeah, that's what it's for. With Hasty spam, you'll have 1000 control and touch for 600% efficiency on that pop, though. Even Normal status with Ingenuity will put you at 100% HQ on anything. The only drawback is that you don't have the Rumination buffer anymore, so you're pretty much stuck finishing your synth as soon as you hit Byregot. Small price to pay, I say.

I shouldn't be giving the secret away, but...

Innovation + Byregot > Great Strides + Byregot

You get 2 more chances to raise IQ stacks (at +50% control) while receiving 3 chances at a Good/Excellent status for Byregot

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Originally Posted by mjk

I shouldn't be giving the secret away, but...

Innovation + Byregot > Great Strides + Byregot

You get 2 more chances to raise IQ stacks (at +50% control) while receiving 3 chances at a Good/Excellent status for Byregot

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I definitely disagree here. First, you're talking about raising more IQ stacks where that requires Durability and not CP -- GS setup could use the exact same number of Hasty swipes if Dura permits.

Thing is, Innovation procs off base control. If you've hit 10 touches, you're at +200% already, which is a 16.67% relative bonus. That means your Innovation+Byregot is 175% if you assume Good shows up, while GS+Byregot floors at 200%. Because Byregot is 300% touch at that point, GS with 2 other hasty swings (70%) is an average of 740% efficiency. Innovation with 2 Hasty and assuming good on Byregot would give you 688.33% efficiency -- a significantly lower number.

//EDIT: Note that I assumed linearity on control to quality function -- that's not totally correct, but within the range observed, it's a good approximation.

Steady Hand + Great Strides + Innovation + Ingenuity + Byregots = almost 1500 quality in 2 stars recipes.

Innovation is only +50% control from your base, not your boosted Inner Quiet control value, or so I'm told (don't have it yet).

Nvm, Gamemako covered it. I definitely prefer Great Strides in theory, but I'll have to try out Innovation when I get it.

Great Strides > Innovation > Ingenuity II (For 1-2 star) Otherwise Great Strides > Innovation.