I really dislike the fact that 30-50 or more players gather in a town (quarrymill?), and sit and wait for a FATE to appear on their map. ALL those people then rush to the FATE area and beat it before the time hits 13:00. The FATE train then goes back to town...leaving in their wake countless aggroed mobs runnining all over the place. It's a complete joke, I love the game, but these FATES need a tweak. There were so many people trying to do FATES today that the "rubber band" lag started to happen...first time I saw it. SE spread us out, give us other viable methods of leveling. Everything seems rushed...fates get here get there now now, dungeons...you got 90 min come on bonus Xp for going fast. Give us a slowed down nice settled way to level without rushing.
The FATE train...
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09-24-2013, 10:39 AMPinwormsThe FATE train...
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09-24-2013, 10:41 AMCjB
I much rather do dungeons then fates, but the waits are horrible. I hope they do make some changes.
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09-24-2013, 10:48 AMPinworms
I did satasha the other day and was about 40 min. It's long. I push one button in fates..2 if you count tab. It's pretty mindless. So far I have enjoyed everything about this game but FATES. Grinding fates misses so much of the game too. I tried it out from 20-30... Fast paced spammed ice...done. Tried on arc spammed fast knook 15-20. I would totally ditch Xp from fates and make it a seal grind. I understand there will be hard ways to level later on...so grab a full party and chain mobs 10 levels higher than you!? I bet it would work.
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09-24-2013, 09:03 PMpandabearcatNo, it really wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinworms
If your goal is to fast exp to 50, then do FATEs. What do you care? If your goal is to see content, do dungeons, and quest, what do you care that FATEs are SLIGHTLY better?
Like really, the REASON people do FATEs is because past 50 storyline, there is NOTHING to do for your alt. If you're on your first, worry not about the FATE parties and do your storyline. You'll need to anyway, and it gives you boatloads of xp. I had no trouble leveling my first class to 50 with barely ANY fates done, and I never worried whether someone was outpacing me.
If you turn it into a race, you better do FATEs. If you don't care, or at least say you don't care, then DON"T WORRY ABOUT FATES. -
09-24-2013, 10:01 PMPorie
If you don't like fates.... Don't do them. Not everyone has the same schedule like you, I work and have limited time to play at times... Doing fates to grind another class I like is such a nice way to stay in the game. I'm sorry I don't want to spend 1 month trying to level one subclass character. We live in a day and age where we don't have all the time in the world, that why you have options in game to suit everyone's needs.
But simply if you don't like it don't wine.... Just don't do it and let others do what they want to do.
If you're rubber banding I suggest "working" get a better PC or even get a better Internet.... I have not rubber banded once this game. -
09-24-2013, 10:35 PMMoontide
Another angle: The more I look at it the more I think that a big part of the core problem lies in the individual mob XP system. As far as I've noticed you get full XP if you tag a monster, and still full XP if you deal enough damage to said monster, also in parties. This heavily favors large-group slaughter mobs who mash down as many weak enemies as possible for maximal XP. Something needs to be done to the group participation XP to actually make beating down tougher enemies a better choice instead. I don't know which way you could actually implement that in a way that'd be both pro-teamplay and making a greater challenge an attractive choice though.
A simple way to deal with mass-participation FATEs would probably be a way that lets the monsters level up while the participant count increases without making the XP rewards greater. That still dodges the issue of how XP is distributed though.
And, as it stands for leveling speed, intentionally shoot yourself on the foot?Quote:
Originally Posted by Porie
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09-24-2013, 11:02 PMPorie
The only other option I wouldn't mind to level up here and there is doing fates as well as dungeons. Now that I'm leveling my subclass.... Fates are obviously the best..... I never do dungeons because they give no exp no money worth wile, and I'm going to out level the gear in a couple hours from the dungeon.
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09-25-2013, 05:00 AMneverendingxsin
I'd be more than willing to run dungeons all day long to level if they gave XP comparable to FATES.
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09-25-2013, 10:13 AMPinworms
My problems aren't really the fates themselves...it's the herd of players going to point a to b back to a all at the same time. Once we get there its AOE festival or press one button party. Those are my 2 biggest concerns. The first - because it looks so funny when I am mining and a herd runs by LOL.. The second- because its gameplay mechanics. Right now there isn't much when it comes to dps in party mechanics. Haven't tried heal or tank. I'd like to see more and hopefully in the future I will.
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09-25-2013, 10:03 PMDarlantanSame here my friend same here....Quote:
Originally Posted by neverendingxsin
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09-25-2013, 10:04 PMDarlantanThey need to scale the damn thing with more people comes with great difficulty :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinworms
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09-25-2013, 11:20 PMMezolitik
The FATE train is really annoying, especially in Quarry Mill.
I hit a wall with levelling at 30, so I figured I'd try some FATEs.
I found one, drew my sword, FATE train rode in, FATE over, zero EXP.
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09-25-2013, 11:44 PMpandabearcat
Maybe join a party then. Join them.
This is the downside of "massively multiplayer" when you're forced with the well, massive amounts of players doing the same thing you're doing. -
09-26-2013, 10:30 PMElazuThat's SE's fault though. I would love for them to buff dungeon exp to make them viable leveling methods.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moontide
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09-27-2013, 05:04 AMwinglyndwho cares..
Honestly, I don't understand why everyone has to gripe about fates. Sure, fates do give you boatloads of experience, but they are there to serve two purposes.
1. To bring people who would otherwise not party up a chance to play together and offer a sense of community through fighting against a common threat.
2. To offer a chance for something spontaneous and out of the ordinary "go here do this" type of questing. Some people play for that, and other people play for end game content. If you only care about end game content then fates are an excellent source of xp and rightly so.
It shouldn't matter if people use them to level, because what does it matter to anyone but them? If we are concerned about newbies leveling too quickly and "ruining" in-game content (which I have seen complained about) then find a free company or friends to hang out with and run the dungeons together. If it's about the "economy" of the levels, it's ok... -
09-27-2013, 05:29 AMsilentwindfr
@winglynd:
1) the people farming FATE don't do that for be in group, they group simply because they will get more credit leading them to get gold... you will rarely be healed by the healer or protected by a tank.
2) when people log and band together only for run from FATE to FATE, is not spontaneous, is simply a farming.
other point, it's ruin the game actually, some area like coerthas and north thanalan are simply horrible because of the train, if you want to be spontaneous is impossible, since the zerg will destroyed the fate before even be able to do anything.
the trouble is not the fact that people only use FATE, it's the fact... that the FATE are the only way, after you did get your first jobs to 50... to level up another jobs efficiently.
worst, it's impossible to do FATE without being grouped (the boss one mostly), making impossible to queue for the dungeon.
the FATE system is good, the use the community do with it is horrible and that a huge trouble. -
09-30-2013, 09:07 AMRevJakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Mezolitik
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09-30-2013, 09:11 AMRevJakeYou sir, have no idea. Wait till the late 30's when there is not enough content to do anything but FATEs for XP. The points you make above are why I love FATEs. But, the result is not fun. Just wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by winglynd
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09-30-2013, 11:58 AMHaru
People seem to forget that you also need to do 10,000 of them for an achievement. So yeah fate parties are the way to go well after all jobs are level 50.
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09-30-2013, 12:20 PMfistantaliusI do not have the money like you sir to get me a new or better computer at the drop of every new game. Second I have the best internet speed for DSL in my area. Yes sir I do lag and rubber band in the high Fate areas where everyone is just sitting around on their mounts counting sheep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Porie
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09-30-2013, 05:47 PMIXZERO
Come on people, why are you complaining about the FATE's, if you are mad about being to late at the FATE and get no exp for it, then why not join a party? You can shout for a reason...
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09-30-2013, 05:51 PMsilentwindfr
you need 1000 FATE for the title and 3000 for the last one....