You don't need a healer in Amdapor Keep

Amdapor Keep with 3 dps 1 tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HATmyjFNT24

try that as WAR :D

slower kill than with a healer that knows what cleric stance is :\

still, impressive.

Haha, I wouldn't recommend it but yeah possible, I did it before and I was the tank. We were all geared and the summoner was the only one healing me/and I was also healing myself. :3

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Originally Posted by Vmage

slower kill than with a healer that knows what cleric stance is :\

still, impressive.

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I agree the rest of the dungeon was very very quick though. I think we only had 2 golems spawn on first boss.

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Originally Posted by Myea

I agree the rest of the dungeon was very very quick though. I think we only had 2 golems spawn on first boss.

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Really? Cause I see 74 mins left on the timer...

I mean it looks like a fun thing to do :) but not exactly speed running.

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Originally Posted by neizero

Really? Cause I see 74 mins left on the timer...

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AFK

10char

Yeah, you don't need a healer... Just other members spamming cures on you... >.> Grats anyway?

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Originally Posted by Myea

Amdapor Keep with 3 dps 1 tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HATmyjFNT24

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You still needed a healer. In fact, you needed four. Black Mage was healing, Summoner was healing, and Bard was healing. You merely pulled in more damage by bringing in more hybrids than was needed. But don't claim (as you did) that "you don't need a healer" in AK. I'd rather see the video of you guys dealing with Demon Wall while doing this.

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Originally Posted by Balaur

You still needed a healer. In fact, you needed four. Black Mage was healing, Summoner was healing, and Bard was healing. You merely pulled in more damage by bringing in more hybrids than was needed. But don't claim (as you did) that "you don't need a healer" in AK. I'd rather see the video of you guys dealing with Demon Wall while doing this.

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You don't know your classes very well

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Originally Posted by Myea

You don't know your classes very well

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Uhh, we can all see the BLM and SMN were spamming Physick, and everyone had relics. So congrats and all for beating it with a unique setup, but don't act like you didn't have a healer. You had two of them.

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Originally Posted by Myea

You don't know your classes very well

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I have no idea why you said what you did. I was sitting there watching either Summoner or Black Mage casting Physick, the tank was spamming Cure on himself, and the Bard was healing his/her/itself while killing the adds. Aside from having to kite orbs, no player has to get out from behind the pillar where Anatoboga is tanked, so they don't really need heals at that point. But Demon Wall puts out a ton of incidental damage. Everyone is probably using self-heals whilst trying to still nuke adds.

I'm a Monk, and I take almost NO damage on Anatoboga unless I'm fighting the adds. Aside from that, I just pop Second Wind and BOOM! no need for e healer for ME!

Post it on reddit, maybe they'll care.

And here I was, thinking I would see something impressive, silly me!

U guys played too much gw2.......lol

I'd be more impressed to see first boss done like that, without glitching adds on the tree branch.

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Originally Posted by Balaur

I have no idea why you said what you did. I was sitting there watching either Summoner or Black Mage casting Physick, the tank was spamming Cure on himself, and the Bard was healing his/her/itself while killing the adds. Aside from having to kite orbs, no player has to get out from behind the pillar where Anatoboga is tanked, so they don't really need heals at that point. But Demon Wall puts out a ton of incidental damage. Everyone is probably using self-heals whilst trying to still nuke adds.

I'm a Monk, and I take almost NO damage on Anatoboga unless I'm fighting the adds. Aside from that, I just pop Second Wind and BOOM! no need for e healer for ME!

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Bards can't heal is what he meant probably. I mean technically they can heal themselves every 2(?) minutes with the monk move and they can LB heal, but they don't have access to CNJ or ACN for a castable heal.

Anyway that looked fun but very inefficient. Would just go much faster with a healer in cleric stance the whole time, especially that fight as a SCH I don't cast a single heal, only a few dispels on the disease every now and then, buffing fairy alone is enough to keep the tank up easily. Bard was in mage song, SMN was spamming heals, tank was spamming heals(tank dmg not the highest but still), that's a lot of damage lost that's only made up because I assume you're all overgeared for it.

I fulltime clerics stance on SCH in AK and my fairy solo heals while I spam DPS. 30 min runs are nice.

I wish I could still heal myself...but once you are Bard it is only heal yourself time. Come on man!

woulda been better if tank used stoneskin

You did have a healer, he was a subpar healer but you had one.

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Originally Posted by Balaur

You still needed a healer. In fact, you needed four. Black Mage was healing, Summoner was healing, and Bard was healing.

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Originally Posted by Myea

You don't know your classes very well

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Originally Posted by Balaur

I have no idea why you said what you did.

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BRDs can't cure. Derp.

You guys should make a video next of 1 tank + 3 WHM in cleric stance, call it "you don't need dps in Amdapor Keep".

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Originally Posted by Myea

You don't know your classes very well

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It seems more like an observation of what was happening on the video. These "non healing" classes were healing.

Fastest AK run I ever did was PLD/WHM/WHM/SMN. AK can be done with all kinds of strange setups. Just have to bring people who know how to play the class.

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

BRDs can't cure. Derp.

You guys should make a video next of 1 tank + 3 WHM in cleric stance, call it "you don't need dps in Amdapor Keep".

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pretty much this

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

BRDs can't cure. Derp.

You guys should make a video next of 1 tank + 3 WHM in cleric stance, call it "you don't need dps in Amdapor Keep".

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Bards are the class that you have do LB3 when you need to rez everyone without distracting healers from healing

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Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi

Bards are the class that you have do LB3 when you need to rez everyone without distracting healers from healing

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Or just have the healer do it, because it heals everyone to full anyways...? BRD limit break is bad, but there are a million other threads for that discussion.

The only thing impressive about this is the fact that you brought 3 dps AND managed to kill the boss considerably slower than most groups that bring a healer.

I think the fastest way to do it would be 3 BLM 1 WHM. I have 3 manned the first boss without a tank and almost took down the second without one. Only tried that fight once and got it to 5% before a tank appeared.

The inferrence from "you don't need a healer" is "you don't need healing", and that simply isn't the case. You spent a large majority of the fight trying to get out of the red zone with your puny pld heals and the blm/smn spamming shitty physics at you.

"Why bring someone who can heal for 800hp per gcd when we can use 3 people to do the same!"

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Originally Posted by Myea

AFK

10char

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Yeah right.

/10char

Just get a scholar to run with you, their pet can keep up any tank on almost all pulls. And they just DPS the full run.

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Originally Posted by Myea

Amdapor Keep with 3 dps 1 tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HATmyjFNT24

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:D nice one. glad to see someone think different from time to time and have fun. even if it's not efficient and they may not try it again, they did it.
these are the ppl that create strategies. the rest just follows the bandwagon.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

I fulltime clerics stance on SCH in AK and my fairy solo heals while I spam DPS. 30 min runs are nice.

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I do the same, but doesn't work as well on pure DF parties to be honest, other than the odd time you get paired with 3 other people already in farm mode that don't stand on pools against demon wall.

I read it as "You don't need a healer (class) in Amdapor Keep."

I'm sorry some people are being so touchy OP. Good job on the kill.

Impressive! It's funny to see all the people get unnecessarily buttmad over such a cool run. Unorthodox parties are the best. One day I shall have to regal all with my story of 5 DDs and a RDM on XI...

I'm just wondering how demon wall was done.

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Originally Posted by Myea

Amdapor Keep with 3 dps 1 tank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HATmyjFNT24

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I'm guessing you tried to look cool when starting this thread and failed?

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Originally Posted by lilena

I'm just wondering how demon wall was done.

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If you have good DPS then Demon Wall doesn't even require any healing at all.
I rarely need to heal during the Demon Wall fight, though I run it with a static party where we all are good geared.

Thing is, if the DPS is high enough, then the wall is dead before the second phase even begins, which means no bees and no major damage have been dealt.
And considering that we run with the normal party setup (1 tank, 1 healer and 2 dps), I'm just assuming that their party with 3 dps would be able to dish out at least similar dps as us.

my party have 1 relic no dps LB and we can down wall after 2 repel.

btw: nice time, 74 min left. While my party with not even full DL and 1 BRD was farming soulbind finished AK with 80min left.