So at this point the only way I can explain people turning in items right at the start in fates is that they are trolls. Would be great if these fates had a minimum completion time of 5 minutes or longer just so this would stop.
Fate trolls?
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09-22-2013, 05:22 PMRochetmFate trolls?
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09-22-2013, 05:25 PMMackaHow is turning in items that the fate requested is being a troll. I bet you the same guy screaming at me for killing the Lambs lol guess what Im still going to turn in the items and kill the lambs just because I can and the game asks me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochetm
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09-22-2013, 05:26 PMNeasa
Not exploiting FATEs = Trolling? Understood.
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09-22-2013, 05:30 PMJynx
Forgive me for playing the game it was meant to be played. Fate Troll for life.
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09-22-2013, 05:35 PMRochetmConsidering your posts about needing for seals along with this I can say that you are in fact a troll. How nice for me that I can blacklist you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macka
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09-22-2013, 05:51 PMPtolemy
People who try to force other people to stop playing the game in-order to follow some rules people made to be efficient in exp parties, are the trolls.
You are doing the person a favor by blacklisting them, so they can stop playing with you. I thank you in their stead for doing all the work. -
09-22-2013, 05:51 PMHawklaserI would not say that it is trolling, but more of people not realizing they don't have to rush the turn ins. But I suspect this is more of an issue due to the prevalence of FATE trains wanting every fate over with a gold rating within 10s of getting to the fates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochetm
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09-22-2013, 05:55 PMMackaI never once said I needed on gear for seals, learn to read.... I said I need on gear that I can turn into materia for my relic weapon instead of paying for the materia. So you will blacklist me for playing the game the way it was meant to be played not like I give a damn. I say good save me the trouble. Why you at go ahead and blacklist the rest of the server that play the same way as me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochetm
also I only run with my FC so why you give a damn on what or why I need anyway. -
09-22-2013, 05:59 PMLollerbladesQuote:
Originally Posted by Rochetm
Hands in items requested. Is a troll in your eyes?
Remind me never to visit your warped world of logic. -
09-22-2013, 06:02 PMMackaAnd he think blacklisting me is hurting me when he did me a favor to not ever having to play with him on my server lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Lollerblades
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09-22-2013, 06:13 PMLollerbladesLucky escape it would seem!Quote:
Originally Posted by Macka
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09-23-2013, 01:54 AMULTiMA1200
Bra you soft as hell son, do us a favor and unistall the game. Lame ass dude.
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09-23-2013, 02:31 AMChiruru53
The people here are upsetting. Does it make you happy knowing that you destroy the exp possibilities of many other players? Sure you can end a fate early, but why would you when there is a possibility of additional experience in the thousands, for yourself and other players? Does being a jerk online make you feel tough? A real man? I can't ever understand what goes through the mind of you people. Ending said fate such as dark devices hurts not only you, but the hundreds of others around you participating. It isn't an exploit, it isn't bugging anything out or doing anything against the game's code. If SE didnt want us killing wave after wave of mobs they would have fixed it by now yes? Like they did AK. You all really need to look up the definition and find out what a game exploit really is. Had it been an actual exploit it would have been addressed in the last patch on FATES. I think you're all just throwing that word around in a feeble attempt to try to give your accusations worth.
I can't believe how ignorant and uneducated that sounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by ULTiMA1200
Don't just use part of my sentence to try to justify your logic. I said sure you can, but why would you when you can gain thousands more experience for you and others. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crica
You act like getting a FATE party is hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbitzero
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09-23-2013, 02:40 AMCricaexactly - so when a player does, working as intendedQuote:
Originally Posted by Chiruru53
if you dont like that, ask SE to make it work differently otherwise QQ more that players play the game as intended -
09-23-2013, 02:40 AMJynxii
I think you guys missed his point. He was implying that people are rushing over to the gather FATEs, doing a single 'loop' of the pick up items and then handing them in, effectively gimping other players that aren't as fast/don't get a chance to hand in. That, and they skip attacking mobs for drops, completely ignoring one of the mechanics of the FATE. This really is no different from any other FATE, and as was mentioned is likely more the 'FATE Zerging' mentality that everyone has adopted where the FATE needs to get finished ASAP so the zerg can move onto the next one.
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09-23-2013, 02:43 AMElemia
Ever considered that some people just want the seals and not the xp?
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09-23-2013, 02:48 AMrabbitzero
If you aren't in one of the fate groups, it's really the only way to get a decent rating, hence, turn items in. Same reason probably they do the lambs, if you can't tag fast enough, why bother? It's faster and more efficient for those not in groups to get the fate done faster so they can move on to others. Doesn't make them trolls, just accept it and move on. Until they change it where being in a party has no benefit, that's the better way for those not in them.
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09-23-2013, 02:52 AMsilentwindfr
yeah being in team give way too much credit, you can be there since the start on boss fate, do your jobs, but since you are alone... you don't get enough credit for get gold.
and another one is in team, arriving at the end and sending 2 attack or 2 heal and get the gold... because he is in team.
indeed you can get a team, is the way to do it actually. but what bother me is the reward for the fate is a personal reward, then why get in team increase your personal credit? i means you can do the same without being in team. -
09-23-2013, 02:55 AMVitaminMT
I've had mixed feelings about this since I first saw it happen. On the one hand, yeah it sucks that they end those kinds of exp farming FATEs early.
At the same time though, they are playing the game the way it was intended, and if you seriously think that the devs should change these FATEs to accommodate your unintended needs you're freaking bonkers. -
09-23-2013, 03:09 AMMusashidon
either way you are just hurting each other. not in a party so you just kill the lambs? faster exp for you but slower for the parties that are actually tagging and getting exp.
getting exp and tagging but not ending the fate? people who aren't getting the tags or kill counts are getting no exp while you get exp.
so in the end both sides are hurting each other and playing the game as (intended) so it's all about how you feel, if you feel you should end it early fine just don't preach on you're right and everyone is wrong. and if you feel you should let it play out and getting the mob exp fine just don't preach it.
do each other a favor and blist each other and stop whining about each others sides they both hurt each other and they're both thinking of themselves. -
09-23-2013, 03:17 AMGilraen
Yeah, my combat classes (that I play) are all 50 so the exp is a non-issue for me as I get none. But the fates aren't without benefit to me, as many have mentioned company seals. Whether I spend 30 minutes murdering the fate mobs or turning in all the things I gathered at the start, the reward doesn't change. And yeah, I'm usually not in a party for these things. I don't get why people think Fates is the only way to level. You've got leves and dungeons you could run, you could turn in the dungeon loot for seals or sell it on the market board... it's a big game, make the most of it!
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09-23-2013, 03:26 AMSadiqueso if there are 30 people at a fate, 20 are level 50 needing seals, 10 are level 48-49 needing xp, the 10 refuse to turn in items so that it lasts longer thus making the other 20 wait longer. Who is the troll now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochetm
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09-23-2013, 03:49 AMGenjisamuraiGod I hate people like you. You pretty much ruined a quarter exp for everyone...Quote:
Originally Posted by Macka
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09-23-2013, 04:04 AMFuryan
Clearly the person trolling here is you OP.
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09-23-2013, 04:18 AMKityaWhat does this have to do with anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiruru53
There's plenty of reasons to not be in a fate party while doing a fate. Off the top of my head, You run into a fate while questing and decide to join in for a little exp. Or, maybe, you're in a dungeon queue.
Since you seem to be on the side of "everyone should get the best experience possible" you should be on the side of everyone, not just everyone in your fate group. :P -
09-23-2013, 06:42 AMBreladine
Wait, turning in items early is considered trolling? I've been doing it because I thought the whole point was to turn in the damn items.
I don't run with FATE groups or anything like that, I just get to the leve, get some of the items in question, turn them in, then go get some more. I never once thought about how 'fast' the leve ended, nor did I think I had to stand around waiting for other people to get with the program.
I do think that it might be wise for SE to implement a minimum run-time on the turn-in leves, but again that's on SE, not on the players. It's not on the player-base themselves to try to elongate the run-time for everyone just because it isn't designed that way. Right now those leves are working-as-intended and if "as-intended" can be ridiculously short, that's something you need to take up with Square, not start pointing fingers wildly at each other. -
09-23-2013, 02:40 PMtexhnolyze
do you realize that NOT EVERYONE know the exp trick?
that's the intended system, you get the items, you hand them over, that's it
the fates didn't tell us to "get them as much as you can so you can yield more exp"
if you want people to do that, just explain it to them