Make an Achievements interface ingame.

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05-05-2011, 05:29 AM
Hitoriki

Make an Achievements interface ingame.

The steamworks thread got me thinking about this. I dont particularly think I would care if the PS3 version had steamworks or not, But I do believe that the game needs a way to view your achievements in game.

The system is already there. Just implement a simple UI to see them and maybe compare them. Also a simple "You have earned this achievement" on the screen would do wonders for game play. It would add motivation to play and a nice sense of achievement, go figure right? Why do you think there are some many achievement and trophy fanatics on consoles, even among the casuals? I can almost guarantee that most casual gamers that play FFXIV do not know that it even have achievements because they are nowhere to be found in game.

Make a UI for them. Like every other modern MMO. :)
05-05-2011, 05:32 AM
Frebaut

So i agree make it like the 3D
05-05-2011, 05:34 AM
Frebaut

Ya i Agree. Make it when you enter a LIGHT PARTY. WHAMMY its in your face. Would be cool so see that.
05-05-2011, 12:06 PM
SirEdeonX

I'd love this. I actually thought about this about.. 20 minutes ago in-game XD
05-05-2011, 12:21 PM
Dimo

i agree, i literally had no clue we even got achievements until my linkshell mentioned them a few days ago. I was searching for the interface in game for them haha, but they told me it was on lodestone...lame.
05-05-2011, 12:21 PM
Maxi_Irving

I agree with this. It's a relatively simple fix for a big problem.
05-05-2011, 12:25 PM
Tezz_Xivectro

I agree. I've been telling them since Alpha for more on-screen indicators for various aspects of the game. An in-game UI for viewing achievements is a must-have, imo. When they start messing around with stuff like this, i hope they do titles too.
05-05-2011, 10:58 PM
Hitoriki

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Originally Posted by Tezz_Xivectro

I agree. I've been telling them since Alpha for more on-screen indicators for various aspects of the game. An in-game UI for viewing achievements is a must-have, imo. When they start messing around with stuff like this, i hope they do titles too.

Yes definitely :) And I agree with the titles too they really let people know what YOU are most proud of since you can choose it. Really liked in in FFXI.
05-05-2011, 11:18 PM
northernsky

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Originally Posted by Tezz_Xivectro

I agree. I've been telling them since Alpha for more on-screen indicators for various aspects of the game. An in-game UI for viewing achievements is a must-have, imo. When they start messing around with stuff like this, i hope they do titles too.

Yeah YoshiP actually said they were considering adding titles. Now how will we see them? In XI we were seeing title when we checked someone's bazaar, but in XIV I have hardly "checked" anyone
05-05-2011, 11:24 PM
Jinko

Agree with this, although considering the achievements are on the lodestone the devs probably have this planned at some point.
05-07-2011, 04:31 PM
Seif

I agree what's the point of listing them online? I never look at that page and I have no idea what achievements I have yet to unlock. Sort of takes the whole point of having them in the first place. Oh and would it kill you to attach some unique gear to unlocking the hardest ones? I guess it would since your 3d modelers haven't lifted a finger since launch...
05-07-2011, 04:48 PM
Ilean

Seriously, this can wait.

A year or two.
05-07-2011, 06:34 PM
viion

That light part is a texture, its not a font/typed.

There are about 800 achievements, thats a lotof textures! So i dont think doing identical to light part be so good XD
05-07-2011, 08:36 PM
Misha

Also make sure to add in ability to see ones you currently don't have unlocked and how to get em^^ Sure there would be TONS of achievement chasers which would in turn add more replay and more people playing xD Achievements, even though pointless for the most part go a long way :P No like systems not there, just need UI, as beens stated lol
05-07-2011, 11:47 PM
Kilta_Firelotus

I rather not nor do I personally care for a WoW styled BOOONNNGGG "you are now rank 10 in archer" BOOOONNNNGGGG you are now rank 10 conjure. BOOONNNGGG you completed court of sands. we earn achievements in almost everything we do in this game. Even more then WoW. And one thing I find annoying is the in your face achivement pop ups. More so with the sound effects.
05-08-2011, 12:03 AM
Hitoriki

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

I rather not nor do I personally care for a WoW styled BOOONNNGGG "you are now rank 10 in archer" BOOOONNNNGGGG you are now rank 10 conjure. BOOONNNGGG you completed court of sands. we earn achievements in almost everything we do in this game. Even more then WoW. And one thing I find annoying is the in your face achivement pop ups. More so with the sound effects.

No way. This is what we need :) getting pat on the back for doing anything is always good. :P But achievement interfaces like this are always successful. People love them and I would really like to see them in game.
05-08-2011, 01:03 AM
TessaJalloh

signed, i want this. Would be pretty fun to suddenly have it appear on screen

10,000 Monsters slain
Expert Monster Hunter
Title unlocked

along with one of those fanfares we all love~
05-08-2011, 01:49 AM
Kilta_Firelotus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitoriki

No way. This is what we need :) getting pat on the back for doing anything is always good. :P But achievement interfaces like this are always successful. People love them and I would really like to see them in game.

as long as it isn't WoW or ps3 style idm. I think it stupid and pointless. It also gets old after a while. I do not need a title or pat on the back for say "poking all the roegadyn npc as a miqo'te" Like I said this game has a ton of achievements. It would go off nearly non stop for this game. That would get annoying. you get an achievement for every story quest, you get an achievement for rank milestone (starting from 10) ( then times 10 )

Just in 1 day I earned 9 achievements, on a good day i can earn 12. And that is just in a few hours playing.
05-08-2011, 01:50 AM
Kurokikaze

Achievements UI made available in game would be sweet... But first the devs need to obtain a certain achievement.

Achievement Unlocked: FFXIV is now fun and functional.
05-08-2011, 01:53 AM
Kilta_Firelotus

you get achivements from gil earn in levequest, attuning to camps, level ups, story quests completions. sorry but there is a fine line between good an annoying, and I think this will get annoying after a while.

imagine you leveling up all the jobs you will see earn 10 20 30 40 60 18 times. add how many camps are in this game, you will get an achiv for every camp. alot of you do not want this game to be like WoW... yet.... this will make it like WoW in away. If they gonna do it. I would have it be how ffxi did it. Where you talk to an npc. That way it isn't annoying.
05-08-2011, 01:54 AM
Abriael

Totally agree, it would be very nice.

I'd actually like more "flavor" achievements, on the style of what was shown by Warhammer Online. At the moment the achievment list is too cold and "scientific".
05-08-2011, 01:56 AM
Kurokikaze

Annoying as you're starting out and you're just getting those generic achievements that are on the lodestone. But hopefully they get more creative with the pre-reqs for higher level achievements like a certain other game...
05-08-2011, 02:24 AM
Abriael

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Originally Posted by Kurokikaze

Annoying as you're starting out and you're just getting those generic achievements that are on the lodestone. But hopefully they get more creative with the pre-reqs for higher level achievements like a certain other game...

I don't see the reason to bring up the "certain other game", given that the "certain other game" copied the achievement system bit by bit from Warhammer Online's Tome of Knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Kurokikaze

Achievements UI made available in game would be sweet... But first the devs need to obtain a certain achievement.

Achievement Unlocked: FFXIV is now fun and functional.

You seem to be a tad unclear on the meaning of the term "functional".

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

imagine you leveling up all the jobs you will see earn 10 20 30 40 60 18 times. add how many camps are in this game, you will get an achiv for every camp. alot of you do not want this game to be like WoW... yet.... this will make it like WoW in away. If they gonna do it. I would have it be how ffxi did it. Where you talk to an npc. That way it isn't annoying.

Again, are you aware that Blizzard didn't invent achievements? They didn't even invent achievements in MMOs, mind you.
05-08-2011, 02:28 AM
Benji

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

you get achivements from gil earn in levequest, attuning to camps, level ups, story quests completions. sorry but there is a fine line between good an annoying, and I think this will get annoying after a while.

imagine you leveling up all the jobs you will see earn 10 20 30 40 60 18 times. add how many camps are in this game, you will get an achiv for every camp. alot of you do not want this game to be like WoW... yet.... this will make it like WoW in away. If they gonna do it. I would have it be how ffxi did it. Where you talk to an npc. That way it isn't annoying.

Simple option to make the achievements pop-ups in game work for everyone: The option to turn them on or off. You'd still record achievements earned, but you'd choose whether to see the graphic animation for each of them (or maybe only certain ones?).
05-08-2011, 02:32 AM
Abriael

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Originally Posted by Seif

I agree what's the point of listing them online? I never look at that page and I have no idea what achievements I have yet to unlock. Sort of takes the whole point of having them in the first place. Oh and would it kill you to attach some unique gear to unlocking the hardest ones? I guess it would since your 3d modelers haven't lifted a finger since launch...

Social networking is the future of social online environmemts. The point is bragging rights, which many people appreciate, and that's why many people use programs like Raptr to post their achievements on facebook and twitter.
Which is actually something that SE should look into implementing (facebook and twitter integration, that is).
05-08-2011, 02:59 AM
Ilean

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abriael

Social networking is the future of social online environmemts. The point is bragging rights, which many people appreciate, and that's why many people use programs like Raptr to post their achievements on facebook and twitter.
Which is actually something that SE should look into implementing (facebook and twitter integration, that is).

You heard him Yoshi! Stop working on content, move the teams to epeen bragging for 14 years old nerds.
05-08-2011, 04:06 AM
Kilta_Firelotus

Never said WoW was the starter, or invented achivements. I just find it funny the stances in the game contradict 1/2 their arguments. I also brough WoW up as that is the most irritating style of achivements. I do not want everything to have a toggle since they are not listed in game under a menue option you have to remember the command or log off to look it up. I suggested a viable option, want achivements on screen go to a bard and unlock them. The thing is about WoW is those pop up suddendly, This causes me to jump 50 feet, Which gets my heart racing which inturn can make me sick. I do not want to end up not being able to play a gaim over that nor do I want to say no one can have them. But a toggle is not always the solution. A achivement npc would be suffice People earn their achivement go to the noc and unlock them witrh all the bells and whistles.

I also do not want to see achivements rule the game. Like having an achivement before doing an event.
05-08-2011, 05:28 AM
Seif

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abriael

Social networking is the future of social online environmemts. The point is bragging rights, which many people appreciate, and that's why many people use programs like Raptr to post their achievements on facebook and twitter.
Which is actually something that SE should look into implementing (facebook and twitter integration, that is).

Lol you sound like the "experts" on Gamasutra in 2007 and look what happened. Casual and console player markets aren't competing they're totally different markets that don't overlap that much at all.