North America - Balmung Server Down - THIS IS WHAT WE PAY FOR ?

I don't have much time to play this game. When I want to play I can't because the server is down. Yikes SE. Please join the world of server redundancy! To minimize downtime when a data center fails.

I propose a reduction in monthly fee's if/when your loyal customers can't access game.

It's like buying a brand new flashy car and your at that one BIG moment to drive it to Senior Prom, you can't... you can't drive it at all, in fact it won't start. Major failure.

You should inform yourself before posting something like that...

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...2eba7f60667e41

It's more like you are buying Japanese car from Toyota in America. But Toyota dealership only opens during Japanese hours.

It's a two hour maintenance. Maybe shouldn't play subscription games if you can't handle that.

Also it's a 30 dollar game. You're expecting your 30 dollar flashy car to run?

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Originally Posted by Himea

It's a two hour maintenance. Maybe shouldn't play subscription games if you can't handle that.

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Agreed. Other games have maintenance that lasts around 8 hours, if not more when things go awry.

Oh yeah, because they're really going to cancel their planned-ahead maintenance schedule because someone's whining like a baby.

We haven't paid for anything past the 29.99/39.99 retail price yet...

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Originally Posted by Himea

It's a two hour maintenance. Maybe shouldn't play subscription games if you can't handle that.

Also it's a 30 dollar game. You're expecting your 30 dollar flashy car to run?

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Cheezball, the point is you pay for something and you can't USE it. Do you frequently miss the point? I don't expect people to compare the 2 as equals. FFS man...

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

We haven't paid for anything past the 29.99/39.99 retail price yet...

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Its Sooooo funny you think that. Is your time is worth nothing? Can you please watch my dog, while I go out for the night?

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Originally Posted by Baratan

Oh yeah, because they're really going to cancel their planned-ahead maintenance schedule because someone's whining like a baby.

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Hmmm, name calling. You're the better man... clearly.

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Originally Posted by Grumble

Its Sooooo funny you think that. Is your time is worth nothing? Can you please watch my dog, while I go out for the night?

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Well I certainly haven't paid anything past the retail. Sorry but sitting on my ass in front of a computer screen playing a game that neither earns me money nor advances me in the real world seems like a pretty good definition of a waste of time. Just happens to be an enjoyable waste of time...most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Germinaneu

You should inform yourself before posting something like that...

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...2eba7f60667e41

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Ok, thanks for the worthwhile comment. I take back this comment only half-way. Its almost you're defending them. Remember when you couldn't log in because servers were full? My above comment applies to past instances as well. It's the compounding affect I'm mad about.

Every maintenance period I check the forums to see who is complaining and how much they can whine. I am very entertained and I am defiantly getting my monies worth.

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Originally Posted by Jettisawn

Every maintenance period I check the forums to see who is complaining and how much they can whine. I am very entertained and I am defiantly getting my monies worth.

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One person's whine is another person's treasure.

is this guy mad over scheduled maintenance?? r u fkn srs??

... it's maintenance. It's been announced days ago.

Seriously? I remember WOW servers being down longer for two hours and I completely agreed to those having to wait lot longer then that just because of "maintenance" alone. At least SE gave us heads up about this and it's only for "two" lousy hours. Hey. Might lose some game time out of it considering I got to be back up in the morning for work, but I'll get whatever time I can into it before the night is over. So like everyone that is suggesting you to do which is either take a break from the computer, eat, read some comics etc. and take a chill pill.

Give section 5 of the FFXIV User Agreement you agreed to when you first started the game another read (it looks like you missed it the first time).

This thread is lololol. I swear half the people who post here are daft. They announce this crap on the lodestone pretty much every time and you guys go all ballistic and start these threads about "IS THIS WUT WE PAY FOR?! AMG PLZ FEKZ DIS SO I CANZ PLEY." No. Just stop the crying and check the Lodestone webpage more often. I check it daily, and to top that off, I also look at topics in my Launcher to notify myself ahead of time for when maintenance will actually be hitting.

If you're misinformed... it's your problem. I'm not defending SE, but I'm also not going to make you feel like your thread is worthwhile when it was your issue that you forgot to check the website. It's one thing if your ISP has a maintenance because it's rare that they ever inform their customer base of that. With SE, they at least post it unless it's of an "emergency" nature... in which case they get the ball rolling first and then post the news.

And if you know anything about MMO's and Games in general, then you know you do not pay for the game. You pay for the license to be able to play the game based the terms of the Company that produces the game. Go and reread the ToS, it clearly states that when you agreed to it you agreed that SE has the right to perform Maintenances and to take servers down on their own schedule. You also agreed that SE does not guarentee that you will be able to play the game error free.

SE Needs to fix stuff!!!!! rable rable rable rable.. BRAAAA Duty finder, rable rable, queue times, rable rable!!!

HOW DARE TEH TAKE MY SERVERS DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE!!

Seriously ppl... You sit and complain that the game and its servers have issues, then when they perform maintenance of any kind you get pissed too?

While this post was originally made during the scheduled maintenance, I just got home hoping to play, and surprise, the emergency maintenance that happens after every damn maintenance is going on.

It'd be nice if they could fix shit while they have the servers down instead of messing shit up during maintenance 1, and then realize "oops" an hour or 2 later and take them down again. I've played a lot of MMOs, and at least other developers take the time they need to make sure shit doesn't hit the fan later.



Also, all of the whiners whining about whiners are just as annoying as the original whiners, if not moreso.

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Originally Posted by SiriusErad

While this post was originally made during the scheduled maintenance, I just got home hoping to play, and surprise, the emergency maintenance that happens after every damn maintenance is going on.

It'd be nice if they could fix shit while they have the servers down instead of messing shit up during maintenance 1, and then realize "oops" an hour or 2 later and take them down again.

Also, all of the whiners whining about whiners are just as annoying as the original whiners, if not moreso.

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A whiner whining about whiners whining about whiners. How meta! And how amusing. :3

Dude, no one gives a shit about you or your whiny attitude. Please leave, you're not welcome!

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Originally Posted by Endy

A whiner whining about whiners whining about whiners. How meta! And how amusing. :3

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Originally Posted by Yoshihito

Dude, no one gives a shit about you or your whiny attitude. Please leave, you're not welcome!

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whine (hwn, wn)
v. whined, whin·ing, whines
v.intr.
1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.
2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.
3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch

v.tr.
To utter with a whine.
n.
1. The act of whining.
2. A whining sound.
3. A complaint uttered in a plaintive tone.


I did not whine, by definition. I calmly expressed displeasure with the situation we are all in at this point in time.

I then calmly explained to those that are in fact, by definition whining about other whiners, that they are just as annoying.




EDIT:
Just so there's no other confusion:

plain·tive (plntv)
adj.
Expressing sorrow; mournful or melancholy.

My tone was not plaintive by definition either, as I said, I was calmly expressing displeasure.

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Originally Posted by SiriusErad

I did not whine, by definition. I calmly expressed displeasure with the situation we are all in at this point in time.

I then calmly explained to those that are in fact, by definition whining about other whiners, that they are just as annoying.

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Doesn't matter, had whine. *hic*

Hey guess what. We had a 10 hour maintenance JUST the other day. Followed by another 2 hour maintenance the day after. We had yet ANOTHER 2 hour maintenance today because apparently SE thinks that NA is in JP. Plenty of other companies that have international game, I.E.- Aion, Tera, many others, do maintenance when the mainstream audience IS NOT planning on playing like in the morning. NOW we have anther hour of downtime in the middle of peak game hours. Yeah, makes complete sense.

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Originally Posted by Lecru

Hey guess what. We had a 10 hour maintenance JUST the other day. Followed by another 2 hour maintenance the day after. We had yet ANOTHER 2 hour maintenance today because apparently SE thinks that NA is in JP. Plenty of other companies that have international game, I.E.- Aion, Tera, many others, do maintenance when the mainstream audience IS NOT planning on playing like in the morning. NOW we have anther hour of downtime in the middle of peak game hours. Yeah, makes complete sense.

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Glad you're on board with it! So many others are far less understanding. Good on you~!

May a dev/gm please delete this troll thread already.

You all seem to forget what WoW was like when it launched.......maintenance that was only to take 4 to 6 hours could take upto 20 hours......que times weren't measured in minutes, but in hours.

We seem to get notification in advance from SE (measured in hours)......WoW at launch you might get a 5 mins notice mid raid

Stop the belly aching and count your blessings. Things aren't perfect but they could easily be worse

kids these days.

Meanwhile: Blizzard would shut down their servers EVERY SINGLE TUESDAY from 7AM EST - 2PM EST and you didnt' see everyone lose their sh*t when that happened in let's say, China where all their money came from which would have been 7PM - 2AM their time... HELLLLLLOOOOOO

If you are a first time MMO player, NEWS FLASH: Maintenance happens so they can KEEP THE GAME RUNNING. I'd rather them do maintenance then let's say, a game like RIFT who rarely fixes anything for months and months and months at a time.

They are shutting the game down here during this time frame because they don't have technicians over here working on the game. They are doing things in their time zone during their business hours because, strike me down, they are in JAPAN.

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Originally Posted by Drunilla

You all seem to forget what WoW was like...

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The problem is, so do the devs, apparently. So we end up with the same screw ups that people should have learned from in the past.

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Originally Posted by Drunilla

You all seem to forget what WoW was like when it launched.......maintenance that was only to take 4 to 6 hours could take upto 20 hours......que times weren't measured in minutes, but in hours.

We seem to get notification in advance from SE (measured in hours)......WoW at launch you might get a 5 mins notice mid raid

Stop the belly aching and count your blessings. Things aren't perfect but they could easily be worse

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Hey, guess what. WoW was released in 2004. We are in 2013/almost 14. A company should have the common sense to do maintenance on an NA server when the majority of the players are offline and sleeping. And our data center is on Ontario or something of the sort, not over in JP. So yes, they have staff over here capable of doing that. WoW did NOT take down international servers the same time they took ours down btw. All MMO's have seperate downtimes for the different regions. Not to mention. Why were there 3 maintenances done this week. AND now we have ANOTHER maintenance a few hours after the last. This is ridiculous. With all the problems they had at launcha nd now the consecutive down times, do they really expect this to keep peopel around? They have other games that are up and running fine, even games that launched recently like Tera not that long ago and didn't have near as much downtime to compete with and that game is even free now. Not to mention the amount of people not being able to subscribe to the game at all right now and are unable to play. What was SE's response to that? "At thsi point there is nothign we can do about it". You stay classy SE

I spent some fun time with my girlfriend, made some popcorn, and rolled up a few things on Katamari.

If you don't have time for an MMO, there's always the option to not pay for it. I haven't heard of SE hiring gunmen to force people to play, yet.
You may know more than I do on the situation.

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Originally Posted by Design

Meanwhile: Blizzard would shut down their servers EVERY SINGLE TUESDAY from 7AM EST - 2PM EST and you didnt' see everyone lose their sh*t when that happened in let's say, China where all their money came from which would have been 7PM - 2AM their time... HELLLLLLOOOOOO

If you are a first time MMO player, NEWS FLASH: Maintenance happens so they can KEEP THE GAME RUNNING. I'd rather them do maintenance then let's say, a game like RIFT who rarely fixes anything for months and months and months at a time.

They are shutting the game down here during this time frame because they don't have technicians over here working on the game. They are doing things in their time zone during their business hours because, strike me down, they are in JAPAN.

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Here's the thing though, WoW was shut down on the same day, every week. I feel like FFXIV is randomly shut down a few times a week. Maybe its just my busy schedule, but I feel like it's down a lot. and never at the same times. If they would schedule a 5-10 hr maintenance 1 time a week, same time every week, to fix everything and make sure its fixed, I don't think there'd be very many complaints.

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Originally Posted by Design

Meanwhile: Blizzard would shut down their servers EVERY SINGLE TUESDAY from 7AM EST - 2PM EST and you didnt' see everyone lose their sh*t when that happened in let's say, China where all their money came from which would have been 7PM - 2AM their time... HELLLLLLOOOOOO

If you are a first time MMO player, NEWS FLASH: Maintenance happens so they can KEEP THE GAME RUNNING. I'd rather them do maintenance then let's say, a game like RIFT who rarely fixes anything for months and months and months at a time.

They are shutting the game down here during this time frame because they don't have technicians over here working on the game. They are doing things in their time zone during their business hours because, strike me down, they are in JAPAN.

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Aion AND Tera, both games that came from that side of the world, had seperate downtimes different from that of their over seas versions. So, what you're trying to tell me, is that SE has LESS money to hire people on this side of the world than the producers of such games as Aion and Tera? Because that in itself is making me literally lol

No.....WoW is now done once a week....it could go down suddenly at launch, you would log into get a message that the servers would be down for 4 hours, come back 7hrs later and the servers were still down without an eta on when they'd be back up.

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Originally Posted by Lecru

Aion AND Tera, both games that came from that side of the world, had seperate downtimes different from that of their over seas versions. So, what you're trying to tell me, is that SE has LESS money to hire people on this side of the world than the producers of such games as Aion and Tera? Because that in itself is making me literally lol

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"SE HAS LESS MONEY TO HIRE PEOPLE ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD"

This company went almost bankrupt trying to make this game. Their employees are probably working on low income trying to get this game to be successful, because remember in Japan, they dishonored their fans and SquareEnix and that is way more important then feeding their family. And if you think "omg well so many ppl bought the game teehee" you forget to factor in: Cost of money to RUN the business (all expenses like electricity and everything else including paying their employees), server fees (this is really pricey if you think about it), their entire staff, etc.

So cool your freakin jets. Hopefully after people start paying their subscription fees, this will slowly dwindle down to being more organized. I think for working with not much to make something that's less buggy then 99% of the games on the market on first release, they are doing pretty well.

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Originally Posted by Design

"SE HAS LESS MONEY TO HIRE PEOPLE ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD"

This company went almost bankrupt trying to make this game. Their employees are probably working on low income trying to get this game to be successful, because remember in Japan, they dishonored their fans and SquareEnix and that is way more important then feeding their family. And if you think "omg well so many ppl bought the game teehee" you forget to factor in: Cost of money to RUN the business (all expenses like electricity and everything else including paying their employees), server fees (this is really pricey if you think about it), their entire staff, etc.

So cool your freakin jets. Hopefully after people start paying their subscription fees, this will slowly dwindle down to being more organized. I think for working with not much to make something that's less buggy then 99% of the games on the market on first release, they are doing pretty well.

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L O FUCKING L You know how many people they let off once the game actually launched because their jobs were done at that point? SE has a shit ton of money. The bullshit that "OHHHH SE IS ALMOST BANKRUPT" is such horseshit. How many people are still buying 13-13/2 and what not. Don't give me that shit. They are plainly slacking and all your complacency is doing is allowing them to keep getting away with this dumb bullshit they keep pulling with errors and constant downtime. AND what's the funniest fucking thing of this all? You're trying to white knight SE and your forum tag is the 1017 error. LOL