WHM and FATES

Hi, I'm just wondering how other WHM are doing in fates..sometimes I can't even get a stone off or an aero tick before the mob dies ( over and over) and thus get nothing, not even a bronze in fates often..and since the mobs die quickly, nobody in my party take damage so healing isn't a source either..

Have any other WHM(s) overcome this?

learn the fates, go to where the mobs are before they spawn, spam holy

Tab then Aero.

Just drop one on everything and you usually get enough to hit gold. Even if it dies before tick 2, you got a hit.

Oh, and yes, after 45, Holy Spamming is a bit of a winner.

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Originally Posted by Raniont

learn the fates, go to where the mobs are before they spawn, spam holy

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The person asking the question is only CNJ 39.

Anyway, you just have to get lucky with Aero until you get Holy. Just cast aero on everything. Don't cast stone at all, just move on to the next target and aero it as well.

I couldn't get anything from the fates that have multiple, easy to kill mobs, because of how many people are doing this. You can scroll through the other PCs and heal as needed, but that won't get you much either. Mainly because these crowds are so powerful that very little healing is needed. From 46 to 49, I camped out at Dragonhead. That was my most successful spot.

I spam Holy whenever possible ( my tooltip here is out of date, I'm 48 )..but the insane mana cost makes sure I only get a few out, and it takes just as long as stone II to cast, or like .5s longer, which means everything is already dead (on my server at least, we have about 6-7 fate groups almost always in the big fate zones at a time)

The Aero spam.. I can get it sometimes.. but really it doesn't help. The mobs die crazy fast..like halfway in a stone II/holy cast, which is like one second, which rarely ticks. I see the mob, and then when I click the button it's dead ~_~

Do like me, use Flash and heal yourself till ppl kill the mobs :) claiming with flash gives you gold even if you only claim 3 mobs.

How did you get flash on a WHM? Glad is blanked out for me

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Originally Posted by Bluesnacks

How did you get flash on a WHM? Glad is blanked out for me

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I guess for FATE just switch to CNJ and deal with not having AF till 50 >.<

Find FATEs with NPCs. The NPCs are always targeting a live enemy. Use a macro with <tt> to hit whatever the NPC is hitting or in the case of some escorts, focused on.

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Originally Posted by Bluesnacks

How did you get flash on a WHM? Glad is blanked out for me

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Not if you're running as CNJ. The base class doesn't disappear just because you get the job. :)

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

Not if you're running as CNJ. The base class doesn't disappear just because you get the job. :)

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I'm kind of confused; If I level my CNJ, then I'm not leveling my WHM ( I think) , whereas my WHM levels both CNJ and WHM, right? If that's the case, then why would I want to be a CNJ if I'm trying to level my WHM?

You're always leveling your CNJ. WHM is a specialization. Think of WHM as a piece of equipment that you equip to your CNJ (because it is).

WHM doesn't have levels. Jobs dont' have levels. Only classes do.

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Okay I think I'm getting my noobness out.

A conjurer level 50 is equal to WHM level 50, as in if I level my conjurer straight to 50, I put in my crystal, then I can get my 50 WHM quest yes (assuming I do all my 30+ quests as well)?

For me, I do the aero thing and try to heal whoever mobs are attacking (as they tend to be low on health, and it counts), including healing pets like Topaz Carbuncle. I'll sometimes get a stone I or II in, but that's normally if I claimed a mob somehow (as everyone stops attacking whatever I end up hitting first, for whatever reason). Otherwise, I heal NPC's as much as I can. If I'm there from the get-go, I tend to get gold. If I come in half way, I tend to get silver/gold. If I come in late, I get bronze.

I tested rezzing to see if that counted for anything (did so 3 times, after throwing a few aeros on the boss in the fate, along with smacking it with stone I and II a five times), but I only nabbed silver for that effort.

If you're grinding them, maybe try a Fate party? I haven't done those, but I figure it'd help get consistent gold (Still hoping SE lets rezzing count for participation in a FATE, it pains me to leave the corpses there until all's done... unless I'm an ACN, since I can DoT everything and let my pet get me credit while I rez <.<)

On my CNJ (and ACN for that matter) it's all about tab-aero. Don't need it to tick since it's instant and does upfront dmg. Unless I get to a FATE when it's already halfway over, I almost always get a gold.

You can always join a fate party with a bunch of DDs that will do it for you.

I just hit tab and aero all the time, constantly. If its a boss mob, I aero once and then start healing the tank. Once you tag the boss mob, healing counts towards the gold.

For me personally, FATEs feel unbalanced. It's too many people (still, even though billing kicked in) and the mobs are real pushovers. I can see FATEs shine when I find one in a secluded area where I'm (almost) alone. There it is fun and I even feel (slightly) challenged. So, for me FATEs aren't entirely bad per se. But at the moment I'd rather avoid them. They're needlessly frustration and grindy at the moment. I hope SE does something about it. :(

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Okay I think I'm getting my noobness out.

A conjurer level 50 is equal to WHM level 50, as in if I level my conjurer straight to 50, I put in my crystal, then I can get my 50 WHM quest yes (assuming I do all my 30+ quests as well)?

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As i said you are always leveling Conjurer. Once you unlock WHM you start doing the WHM specific quests for the additional skills / AF. Your WHM level will always equal your CNJ level as you equip it to your CNJ. If you play on WHM you still earn CNJ experience. Earning CNJ experience levels up CNJ and if you have WHM crystal equipped then you're the same level as your CNJ but specialized as WHM.