WHM Cross job skills, any good?

So ive been healing for quite a while and actually had no problem at all throughout my healing, and using no additional skills. However I will be getting to titan soon and was wondering if I am missing some key elements to my WHM with a lack of additional skills in use.

Anyone have any input? or know of any site that has an updated list on the useable cross job skills that can be equipped by WHM?

thanks!

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Originally Posted by aetix

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You will want to go into arcanist and pull out virus and eye for an eye. Those two skills are actually pretty good to have. You will also want to lvl thm and get swiftcast and quickcast.

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This website will help you out:

http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/White_Mage

But as NadienKirisame already stated, Swiftcast & Surecast from Thaumaturge are a must have for any White Mage.

Swiftcast and Surecast are must haves for any healer.

While these cross-class abilities are good to have as long as you have access to regen and avoid the AoE knockback the Titan fight is a breeze.

I think the instant cast is something every whm should have, while it does give instant raise that is not the most important thing, in situations it is really handy you can cast medica2 instant or a cureIII.

I think Swiftcast is easily worth the cost of admission.

e.g. Being able to Swiftcast and Raise your party's other healer instead of a 10 second cast, it *should* be instant (or 1 second).

I haven't incorporated Surecast into my routine yet. I'm trying to time a Divine Seal - Medica II into landing a second after a primal's astral flow, but usually get interrupted. I suspect Surecast can help me through that.

Experimenting with Thunder vs. say Stone II.

One complaint I would have about White Mage is that we have very few useful cross class skills.

Ruin - Completely useless, intended to be used with pet support so it's weaker than other attacks
Physick - Redundant, same as Cure I
Virus - Useful, I should use it more, always forget I have it
Eye for an Eye - Don't have it yet, doesn't seem that useful, 20% chance to reduce damage by 10%? meh
Thunder - I like it, although the MP cost is a little high, using Thunder - Aero - Aero II (in that order) the DoTs all line up nicely
Surecast - great skill, when it absolutely must be cast
Swiftcast - awesome skill, totally worth the investment to get thaumaturge to 26 to get it, most useful to use before Raise and Medica II

White Mage has no choice in what to take for our 5 extra skills at level 50. Ruin and Physick are completely worthless.


I think White Mage should be able to use these skills:

THM
Scathe - damage
Manaward - magic barrier
Lethargy - slow/heavy

ACN
Bio - DoT
Miasma - DoT


I don't see why these couldn't be used by WHM and would at least give us some options.

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Originally Posted by Elurra

Eye for an Eye - Don't have it yet, doesn't seem that useful, 20% chance to reduce damage by 10%? meh

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It's a 20% chance to debuff the attacker, which drops their damage by 10% for 20 seconds. I know, the tooltip is misleading, but it's actually quite good.

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Originally Posted by Elurra

THM
Scathe - damage
Manaward - magic barrier
Lethargy - slow/heavy

ACN
Bio - DoT
Miasma - DoT


I don't see why these couldn't be used by WHM and would at least give us some options.

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That's an illusion of choice similar to the old talent trees from WoW: more sub-optimal options.

Just out of curiosity, for those who use it, how often do you find yourself using surecast? I've got it, but I never seem to need it. The only time would be when I'm surrounded by enemies attacking me, in which case getting off one more heal usually won't make a difference. In what situations do you guys use it?

I'll get Eye for an Eye eventually, I'm sure, but not going to go out of my way to get it.

Not sure if they'd be useful choices or not. Manaward seems like it would be, but maybe too similar to Stoneskin and that's why we don't have it? But the point is, White Mage has no choice at all. It's here's your 5 cross class skills and that's it. We can't even try to figure out which are the best options or experiment at all.

I used Surecast during Ifrit in the story mode. When he's about to crash down and hit everyone for massive damage I pop it and pre-cast Medica. The damage from Ifrit doesn't interrupt my Medica and healing is applied as soon as possible.

Other predictable damage situations would be good uses as well. Also, when you have pulled aggro from 2 trash mobs, you Fluid Aura one, Surecast + repose the other, then repose the knocked back one, and hope your tank lived through it all. He should have, you were handling 2 mobs for him... ;)

I keep Surecast macro'd in with the Medica skills since I prefer to use them in emergencies (when interruptions hurt the worst).

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

I think Swiftcast is easily worth the cost of admission.

e.g. Being able to Swiftcast and Raise your party's other healer instead of a 10 second cast, it *should* be instant (or 1 second).

I haven't incorporated Surecast into my routine yet. I'm trying to time a Divine Seal - Medica II into landing a second after a primal's astral flow, but usually get interrupted. I suspect Surecast can help me through that.

Experimenting with Thunder vs. say Stone II.

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I use surecast to time a medica 2 to hit just after a primal astral hits the party, then I can swift a medica 1 if needed afterwards

I wish there where some more options, like the conjurer has.

Swiftcast. Its been said before and should be said thousands and thousands of times over again. The ability to instant cast a heal is HUGE. Whether its popping a quick emergency heal on someone, or a use to quickly Rez someone without the large downtime limiting your other heals, it is a big skill to have on any healer. It only gains even more use with high mobility fights which you might need to move yet still need to provide healing.

Swift cast is a must have imo. Instant revives, heals, dmg, sleeps, cleanses, etc is an invaluable tool especially since it's CD is quite short. The rest are nice but not as useful at least in PvE; in PvP I can see virus/eye for an eye being necessary. I played resto druid for over 7 years which had the same type of ability so I made sure to pick it up. Swift cast -> Nova is also good since this combo has saved me and my group many times now. ;D