Proper way to leave a dungeon?

Last night I had one hour to play, I was excited because I was going to be doing my very first dungeon! I logged on and immediately joined duty finder. I have been stuck on the very first story dungeon FOREVER because I have limited game time during the week, this time I figured I had an hour, that should be enough time.

…36 minutes later I finally get in the dungeon. Crap. I had never done a dungeon or even played with a group of people, I had no idea how long it would take. I was playing the DPS role, the other DPS, the Tank and the Healer were all perfect! I was quite surprised because of all the horror stories I have read on these forums.

We were making our way through with no problems. 5 minutes pass, then 10, then 15…. I was having a blast but I realized we would not finish in the 10 minutes I had left. I felt like a huge D Bag. I didn’t know what to say, “Sorry guys, I gtg!” Didn’t seem to cut it.

Ugh, it killed me, this group was perfect and I was SOOOOO close to finally get past this part in the story so I could continue.

Alas, I left the group, saying nothing and logged out. I didn’t even go to a sanctuary because I was just so bummed.

So my question to you guys, what is the proper way to leave a group in the middle of a dungeon if you HAVE to? With the queue times being as long as they are, it is nearly impossible to know “If I get in queue now will I have enough time?” Is it polite to just leave? Should something be said at the beginning of the dungeon if I have less than 30-45 minutes? Should something be said before I leave?

Thoughts?

Just say - sorry need to leave, going to work, house is on fire - what ever - so other knows it's IRL issue / time schedule which forces you to leave, not them personally.

"Cat's on fire. Gtg"

HEC is right. If there is a reason given for a real life issue some players are a little more forgiving. I have no problem when someone leaves as this is a game. However, usually when one leaves without a message we cannot tell if they had stuff to do, got bored, or had a good old fashioned rage quit.

I get where you're coming from. The DF can be unpredictable, and certainly eats up a lot of time just setting the damn thing up. In an ideal world, you'd just resign yourself to other endavors and withdraw from the DF once it became apparent you couldn't have completed the instance it was setting up. Now, I'm not criticizing you here - Its hard to gauge how long a dungeon can take (moreso when it's your very first time in it :P)

The DF gets its share of ragequitters these days (people who bail if they die or aren't happy with the grouping) and just to not leave that sour aftertaste with the remaining members, I'd probably explain quickly that RL (Real Life) issues came up, and I have to leave. Most sane people will understand the concept that RL is more important than FFXIV, and though you may piss some people off - thats just an attitude-problem on their part.

In short; Just calmly explain that you are sorry, but you have obligations outside FFXIV and you have to leave.

I'd rather hear any reason than nothing at all. Even if I can tell you're lying. Even if you scream at me and ragequit.

A legitimate reason is totally forgivable. An obvious lie might be amusing, and at worst, is forgettable. Screaming is definitely forgettable (I promise not to give a crap about your opinion for longer than two minutes, so no harm done <3).

Regardless, at least if you say something, I know I'm not being a d-bag queueing for a replacement immediately instead of waiting to see if you just got DCed.

While your statement is certainly valid, I thought that party members were still there if they DC'd

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Originally Posted by NeoZehel

While your statement is certainly valid, I thought that party members were still there if they DC'd

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Are they? I've been DC'ed myself a handful of times, but never thought to ask what it looked like. I've never had someone else DC on me, but I figured it was like XI, where they're there for a while, but then disappear after a minute or so.

I DC'ed once (even though I was wired -_-) and when I logged back in I was still in the instance. My party only a minute or two ahead of me. Same happened with story mode. I got kicked during a cut scene (because of most recent maintenance) and when I came back the scene just restarted.

We were doing stone vigil last night, we had a bad rash of whms that would join us. Me and a couple friends, WAR, BLM, SMN, were trying to get this mission done. Our main issues seemed to be just getting healed, not necessarily missing any AoEs. Anyhow we got one whm last night, that seemed to idk freak out or something during boss fights, and it would take them way to long to cure me. We got the final boss fight, and there were times id be almost dead, and you would see him either not curing at all(possibly paralyze im sure) or he would be curing himself to full BEFORE curing me. So we were trying to help him understand look man, you gotta focus on curing better, we were pretty nice about it, but you know most people don't seem to have the capacity to take advise/criticism without /emo. So the guy says gl, thats it, and drops out of the dungeon.

We had 25 mins left to do the boss. It finally dropped him at 15 mins left, and we waited until 10 mins left to restart. Our SMN switched to SCH and chose to main heal for her first time ever, and omg I never had such a smooth ride, especially with a Amateur healer... We beat all the miniboss's and mega boss first try. Anyways i guess the only part of that relevant to the thread is even when someone properly leaves the dungeon it for some reason takes forever to drop them out.

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Originally Posted by Drako

It finally dropped him at 15 mins left, and we waited until 10 mins left to restart.

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Why have you not left and requed right away? Just wondering ...

Because that is an ass move, he tried to help.

On topic: How do you leave the dungeon and actually remove yourself from the party so they can find a replacement? I have never left a dungeon but had somebody "gotta go" last night and he just disconnected so I couldnt remove him from the party.

Can you click on duty finder to leave the group yourself? So they can replace you if you have to leave?

I don't think they have a kick function.
Even if you leave don't they give you a 15 min timer?

I know there is no kick yet. What I'm wondering is I wanted to leave a group but make it so they could replace me, can I do that?

Kinda.
If you left, the only way they will get another person who is queing for the dungeon is if they ticked the "Existing party" thing.

Yes - using /leave opens the spot up to be filled by DF while just going offline, the game seems to eventually kick off line members but I can't tell if it is time based or what.

Personally now that you know how long it takes I would say never join one unless you know you have time to complete it.
For example if you have 90 minutes to play and you know a duty takes 60 minutes than after 30 minutes you should cancel your duty finder.
Lets be honest, whats the point of running a dungeon if you cant finish.

All that being said, if I was to start a dungeon with limited time I would let the party members know as soon as I joined, if they asked me to leave because of it I would.
Surprising them with "oops I gotta go" and then bouncing is pretty crappy.

If you need to leave a dungeon then please say something - anything - to the other members of the group. Something is always better than nothing. Also please use the /leave command in order to leave the party before you logout. The party will then be able to pick up someone else from the duty finder providing that they tick the box to join a party in progress. When I have played as a healer I have joined several parties halfway or more through the dungeon this way when their other healer left. In one case the party really needed talking through the dungeon and the DD characters reminded to not engage until the tank actually has the aggro - I guess the other healer left in frustration but had not actually tried to explain things first. After a simple explanation it was much better until the end boss but that's another story :)

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Originally Posted by HEC

Why have you not left and requed right away? Just wondering ...

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Um possibly because we were at the boss, and was hoping to complete it, without starting over?

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Originally Posted by Arriverderci

Even if you leave don't they give you a 15 min timer?

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Only the first player who leaves will get 15 minutes penalty and frankly I think it's too soft seeing tanks leaving left and right on Ifrit "because there's no BLM" ... I'd put a strict 90 minutes (= full time of the dungeon) penalty to those to make them think twice about leaving. It would not impact anyone who needs to genuinly leave for IRL reasons and those "dungeon hoppers" will be discouraged to do so.

Just say you have to leave and that's it. No one is going to send you death threats afterwards, and at least they know you're leaving for a reason.

On that note, if your play time is as limited most of the time you'll have a hard time completing any dungeon, the queue time for DPS is 30+ minutes. Try to find a tank buddy and queue with him, that will get you in instantly.