Seriously, it's a cool feature, but completely worthless since any movement away from the enemy forces your character to backpedal which means you'll just get hit by some AOE attacks.
If you can give the player an option to turn off backpedaling while locked on that would be awesome. Sometimes breaking it constantly can be a pain and is incredibly tedious.
Please turn off backpedaling while using the "lock on" mode.
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09-16-2013, 09:21 PMCalypsxPlease turn off backpedaling while using the "lock on" mode.
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09-16-2013, 09:30 PMVitaminMT
Can't you just break lock?
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09-16-2013, 09:33 PMReika
I think the point of the legacy camera config is so that we don't have backpedaling, ever. If we were ok with backpedaling at any time, we would use the standard camera config. I never use lockon solely for that fact that it is often a death wish in a great number of fights, and the backpedaling makes it worse.
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09-17-2013, 05:09 AMCalypsxObviously, but I would like to see lock on as something that can at least be viable to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by VitaminMT
You don't always have time to break the lock at every critical moment, making it incredibly risky to use. Removing backpedaling during it while in legacy or having it as a separate option would make lock on mode far more entertaining.
As Reika says, lock on is just asking to die. -
10-11-2013, 04:55 AMCalypsx
Please? Disable backpedaling when lock on is enabled during legacy please.
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10-11-2013, 05:02 AMispanoThat negates half the reason for using lock on.... Which in itself is meant to help compensate for the shortcomings of a controller/legacy movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calypsx
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10-12-2013, 03:50 AMCalypsxOr you know, it's actually meant to help keep the camera and character focused and locked on to a specific target while allowing the player to easily strafe around the opponent. Like in most games with a lock on setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ispano
Having backpedaling disabled during legacy during lock on does nothing to hinder the player. Backpedaling in itself is not ever helpful for the most part as your character automatically faces them upon skill use, and allowing the option to disable it does nothing negative. I'm saying give the player the choice, that's all. -
10-12-2013, 03:54 AMispano
Not ever helpful? You would be mistaken, however, let me put it this way. You want lock on mode, to continue what it does, and let you properly strafe around a target, but IF you press anything that's not left, right or forward, you want it to immediately flip you around and run away. You want only ONE direction to be legacy while locked on, but to keep the rest the same. Lock on is designed to keep you FACING the target which is how it makes it so you can easily strafe on a controller. Which is why I said it is intended to compensate for the shortcomings of controller/legacy movement. If you don't want to backpedal, you unlock.
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10-12-2013, 04:16 AMCalypsxOkay how about a compromise. If there was an option it would at least be nice. You can still be facing the opponent, lock on functions in other games make the camera lock on and face the opponent at all times, but not necessarily the character. Make it a separate option outside of legacy so players who do want to backpedal can. Is that good enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by ispano
I mean we have little quality of life options to even have the player character hold their weapon out for an extra 2 seconds out of battle. Surely an easy toggle option wont kill the game.
I find the mode enjoyable because it allows certain classes that use positional bonuses to easily strafe around the opponent. It is a death wish though to even bother using. Having to break lock constantly only hinders the player and can get tedious. -
10-12-2013, 04:28 AMKoboltQuote:
Originally Posted by Calypsx
Deal with it...
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10-12-2013, 04:31 AMCalypsxSuggesting helpful control options that can make the game more fun for some that doesn't change the basic mechanics at all while also not effecting those that don't want to use it = whining.Quote:
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This community is ridiculous. Fine you win. -
10-12-2013, 04:34 AMRyios
As a tank I use standard camera and want S to packpedal. If I want to go forward behind me, I use turn around. I use my mouse to move the camera so I can turn around with the mouse and standard camera in an instant.
I find that if I turn on legacy camera I end up running backwards because I was faced in that direction when I wanted to go the other way and I run off platforms and crap. It's also easier to position a boss accurately via back pedaling, where as not backpedaling might move the boss to far or cause him ti glitch and practically get on top of me (e.g. lost boss in AK) -
10-12-2013, 04:37 AMCalypsxThis is why i'm just asking it as an option, not a gameplay norm. I personally have no use for backpedaling, but I see how some can like it like say ranged classes. I enjoy the lock on feature in this game, it has a very kingdom hearts feel, but unlike kingdom hearts you are forced to backpedal unless you break the lock which gets tedius. A simple option to enable and disable backpedaling while in lock on mode would just be a nice feature to see. As a monk if i'm ever backing up, the only reason I have is honestly to avoid an aoe attack. Other than that I want to strafe around and hit all my positional attacks.Quote:
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In videos I watch of other players I have never seen someone utilize the actual feature. Some aren't even aware it exists, but it makes Lancer and Monk more fun, at least for me personally. -
10-12-2013, 07:18 AMjazo
Would be helpful to just make backtracking speed as fast as forward speed while lock on.
That way you can back off from AOE while locked on target and still facing it, I like to use lock on being drg so I can get flank/back easier, but yeah, if I dont have my stuns ready or Im in middle of animation of another attack or dont react fast enough to unlock and run, or frigging elusive jump would get me into a group of aggro mobs, THEN I might get hit, but I dont like being hit, so It would be helpful to have an easier way to use lock and still being able to RUN behind you.
While we're on this boat, wold be nice to lock movement but not camera, so you can rotate camera and search for another targets (ads and stuff)
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10-12-2013, 08:25 AMCalypsxI'm really liking all these suggestions, the backtracking speed increase while locked on is my favorite idea yet. They would have to speed up the back stepping animation though to pull it off. It sounds possible though.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazo
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10-12-2013, 08:51 AMRi_ri
This is one of the reasons I don't use lock on much.
The other being the camera for bigger enemies, it goes up and I can't see the ground at all. Maybe it's because I am a Lalafell? -
10-12-2013, 09:01 AMChoyi
The only times where I ever find the "Lock on" feature useful is when I actualy want to backpedal... But I'm all for having an extra check box option to disable that as well for thoose who want too, I mean why not have more options, that way everyone can have their way?
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10-12-2013, 09:05 AMRyuujinZERO
I believe a lot of posters in this thread are reading the title and then posting a reply without context. The Op is NOT asking to have backpeddling disabled completely, they are talking about the fact you move backwards at a reduced speed, preventing you escaping AoE's and thus making lock-on more of a hazard than a help.
The OP suggests that in lock on mode moving away from the enemy causes your character to turn and run away at full speed, instead of backpeddling slowly.