Stone Vigil currently impossible to do.

So I'm a tank PLD lvl 42 currently.

I tried to do Stone Vigil, it's a huge pain (prepare).
I tried my best taking on mobs but didn't work. at all. I got too much aggro so got instantly killed, the healer is lazy apparently and just complains about me dying while (aren't you supposed to heal?).
There's always a lack in contact in dungeon, which is strange because "mmo".
Trying to come up with a strategy is pointless because some have this "common guys, hurry up" attitude even though I mentioned the "I'm new so bear with me".

I tried spamming Flash as much as possible but mobs apparently have the ability to ignore that, which causes the team to be frustrated with me (not really sure if they even noticed it's not working or just like to complain INSTEAD of help).

Dps did not wait for u to generate enough hate and healer spam healing and regen. If you did everything right then those ppl are at fault

Make sure you isolate patrol groups. You might be isolating two groups of mobs at the same time if you're not careful in your pulls.

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Originally Posted by LordSideKicks

Dps did not wait for u to generate enough hate and healer spam healing and regen. If you did everything right then those ppl are at fault

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I died 3 times just walking in a corner.
I said "maybe team mashup is wrong" Because there were 2 Bards 1 healer and me as a tank.
Bards didn't do shit except complain. Theres nothing that can frustrate me more is people complaining instead of helping especially when they're able to help and not decide to

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Originally Posted by Kiteless

Make sure you isolate patrol groups. You might be isolating two groups of mobs at the same time if you're not careful in your pulls.

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So I asked in the beginning if anyone had done it before, and everyone said "no" except for the 2 silent Bards who are apparently super shy in MMO except when it comes to complaining.
BUT when we crossed those "patrols" which I didnt know were there, a team mate responded with. that we need to be careful with the patrols.
So did he/she merely ignored me at the beginning asking for help on this dungeon or didn't felt like cooperating at all.

- Kill the dragon aevis first. Pull them away from other groups
- Watch for the corridors where the ice sprites pop. Take them out before aevis.
- Aevis can't be slept so get the sprites slept if there are links.
- Mark your targets and if the DPS attack a different target tell them to attack your target and if they do it again let them tank it. It'll get your point across that they need to attack the same target.
- Don't fight in the corridors where there is dragons breathing fire. Unnecessary damage on the group.
- Get Stoneskin applied before every fight and make sure that the healer knows they can use Cure II.
- Tab Target. Fast Blade one target, Savage Blade the 2nd, Rage of Halone the 3rd. All three on first target. Rinse and repeat.
- Flash twice at the start. Then use flash every now and again.
- SHIELD BASH IS YOUR FRIEND. Or just avoid the big red circles.

Bosses are fairly straight forward. Keep hate. Avoid AOE.

P.s. the level cap is 43. Join a fate party to get levelled up and it'll be easier. 1 level makes a surprising difference.

Thanks man, I'll try doing that, but, it's a lot more difficult to target on PS3 and swap between them.

Patrols are the leading cause of wipes in Stone Vigil. The others being packs of mobs not being CC'd & the healer not paying attention. If you have a WHM or BLM, they need to be responsible for sleeping adds and you are responsible for pulling the mobs you're currently fighting away from the pack (especially since some arcanists and summoners are stupid and either spam their AoEs or decide to ignore CC'd mobs). Always prioritize the drakes and pelicans in groups. The Puks (the little dragons) can be CC'd.

The Aevis should be handled separately since most of them are patrols with the exception to the pull before the last boss, which has 3 of them. As much as some hate it, use provoke to pull those mobs if you need the range advantage and don't want to face pull other mobs trying to inch in close. You're at a part of the game where tank damage has notably gone up and you and your healers have to play differently. Healers have to focus on healing you and not on spamming stone and aero.

Remember the golden rule of tanking: Pull mobs out of the room they're in, and into the room you've cleared. Some people will disagree with this completely, but, I use Provoke to pull patrols from packed rooms (it's instant, long range and does the job). It means you don't need to get close to other stuff, you can pull safely.

Deal with the patrols first.

Spam Flash; with two Bards you should never oom. Mark a priority. Have the healer close to you, ask him/her to move out of mob LoS to your side, but to stay close (most healers have this stupid tendency to stand at max range, which is pointless); any mobs that run to the healer have to run past you and your flash in order to get to them. If they get threat as them to come to you. Be ready to Cover the healer (write a macro that can cast Cover on a mouse over target to make it easier).

Most importantly start the fight with CDs up. Bloodbath will help. As will Rampart. Ask the healer not to HoT. A little CC goes a long way too, if you can get some (a White mage can sleep; mark one out for the healer to CC).

Finally, don't give up. It's an easy enough dungeon with smart players - so get back in there, you'll do it fine.

Some of the trash pulls in that place are harder than the bosses IMHO.

Oh, there's also a pull towards the end in the Security Room (or something like that, been a while). As I recall, it's two Biasts and two Sprites. The Sprites are not going to be close enough to each other for Flash to hit both, so unless your mage is sleeping things, I'd recommend pulling and LOS'ing them around the door.

Vigil was easy, we completed it first run with 12m left on the clock, just need to have a black mage in party and sleep all the adds, then pick them off one at a time. 2 enemy types are immune to sleep the Areo-something dragons, but so long as you sleep the adds its fine, on another note my party wiped on the final boss in that dungeon, the dragon have a bit of health left and I pulled out my level 2 limit break and killed him, Black mage is pure awesomeness. So yeah just remember to sleep enemies and pick'em off one at a time, since CD on sleep is.....2-3 seconds I think? I never had to spam it before so not sure, lasts around 15-20 seconds, when you think the adds are gonna wake up from sleep cast it again to reset the timer, We were able to clear vigil with a PLD, MNK, SCHR and BLM :)

I cant really help with your rotations as WAR and pallies are pretty different.

Take your time with the pulls as other have stated.
I suppose sleep things? We never do unless we HAVE to. Guess my healer buddy is baller.
When the dragon comes down and flames the hallways... dont fight there.
The ice sprites that pop up... yeah those suck.
Stay outa the red.
Enjoy a dungeon with two constant weapon chests (pink/purple and green)

SV is OK if you have a competent group. Make sure that your gear isn't like 20 levels below you, as that will be the biggest contributing factor to your survivability.

We had no sleeper (MNK, SCH, PLD (me), BRD). Flash worked just fine for me. PS3 targeting is tricky, but just keep at it and using the d-pads to target and switch targets. Make sure that you mark your target that you are on to help the dps (through using regular mark or preferably set up a macro). Make sure you blow your CDs at the beginning of tough trash fights as others have said! Keep at it!

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Originally Posted by Ehayte

SV is OK if you have a competent group. Make sure that your gear isn't like 20 levels below you, as that will be the biggest contributing factor to your survivability.

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I was going to mention this too. Have the healer use esuna to remove dots during boss fights.

I hate to be 'that guy', but if you're having trouble getting a coherent group for Stone Vigil, you will cry blood trying to guide a group through babyGaruda, which is the next DF content. It's not impossible, its just hard - learn to deal with it.

Not sure why you're having problem. I accidentally ran this as MRD without all the self-healing, the 25% extra HP and the 15% Wrath additional healing. Don't spam Flash as much as possible. You only need to shield lob then flash twice. In between flashes, use Rage of Halone combo. The benefit of Flash is that it doesn't interrupt your aggro combo so you can use it whenever you have MP for it. You should notice the yellow line connecting the mobs to know the aggro chain and pull accordingly. Also never fight where the wyvern keeps coming down.

BLM makes a lot of dungeons trivial, but if you don't have that luxury your WHM will have to take up some of the slack and pull some sleep duty. You should probably pull with CDs when they're up though as it'll lessen the initial burst damage you take, lessening the amount of healing needed and will reduce the threat generated by your healer.

Dungeons rely on everyone doing their job. One bad cog can really mess up your flow, especially if it's the tank or the healer.

I did Stone Vigil on my first try. Why? Because I always liked to pull enemies. And I have Tomahank. :-)

Stone Virgil was the 1 st dungeon where you really have patrols random pop ups and where you have to use cc

Couple tips:
- if you have a whm or a blm ask them to sleep I have actually ran into whm who didn't know they have repose
-pull groups back in a room or area you have already cleared
- use your stun liberally what I normally do is pull a group with shield lob flash twice shield stun the 1 st mob halone combo it flash again tab target stun halone flash then tab again and start the process anew
- click of regen like abilities when pulling new groups remind your healer not to put it up till after you flashed at least once
- use CDs like rampart And such at th start of the pull to lessen the 1 st spike of damage

That's about it hope this helps and good luck

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Originally Posted by LordSideKicks

Dps did not wait for u to generate enough hate and healer spam healing and regen. If you did everything right then those ppl are at fault

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you will find hardly anyone wana wait as a tank i know this, best bit would be use the signs given and sleep the rest when can.

I tanked this place at level 41 no problems, although I was in full level 35/38 dungeon gear, so perhaps I was a little easier to heal than you were. Healing aggro can be crazy here especially if the healer (WHM) don't Repose. And against level 44(?) attackers you may have trouble holding on to mobs if they attack as you pull.

You have given little to no hard facts. But I would suppose you don't grind dungeons for leveling, since you have very few dungeon pieces, and mostly quest pieces. Are you prioritizing the FB>SB>RoH combo? Because mobs in there obey enmity rules just like any other mob, they do not have an ability to ignore enmity. Are you activating cooldowns upon pulling a pack? Because that would reduce the damage would mean less healing required, which could let the healer have lower enmity.

Where are you dying mostly? By the places with 2 or 3 dragons? Or by the Sprite ambushes? Do you die when patrols and adds join in? Or do you die even on single pack pulls? There are only 2 dangerous trash packs in the dungeon, the 3 dragon pull and the sprite-dragon 4-pull. You should be fine with all the other pulls, although again, without crowd control you will need to work to keep up with healing enmity.

I literally grinded this place from level 41 to 44, I would say it's even easier than Brayflox.

I think wouldn't say that this place is necessarily easier than BrayFlox. There are a lot of tight spaces with AoE coming off making it more difficult as well as the patrols that can bite you in the ass. I did this last night, and I personally thought it was difficult. I did it over leveled with AF and my party wiped a couple times on the boss, and it was also my first time. But it was also the first time for another 2 people. I think if I were to do it again it would be a lot easier. Luckily, I had a competent team so that was a plus.

But the tanking mechanics in BrayFlox and this place are identical and I'm assuming will be roughly the same for a PLD throughout the rest of the game. Unless you're a warrior, I can't remember as I'm writing this response. The only problem is the patrols for this dungeon. So if you're spamming flash, you're doing it wrong. I won't go into details here, but there are plenty of threads in which tanking mechanics and combos are gone into heavily. Take a look at those, test them out and get used to them since a lot of them are fairly similar and will be used heavily with minor adjustments for the situation.

Not a tank myself, but when i ran it, I ended up sleeping the small whelps while the others killed the big dragons. Extra work for me as healer having to crowd control as well, but makes it a lot easier for the group. You take so much damage in that instance the healer is forced to heal early and usually pulls agro. Sleeping some of the mobs goes a long way.

Equipment start to be important from there
I was a fully ready SCH and the tank had a bit of outdated gear for that point
I could take hate from him in one heal
And I am not even exaggerating... 1 physik and that was it...

So just make sure you are up to date in your equipment (and in good condition too... we had a BLM who's weapon broke after 1st boss... needless to say he was a dead weight all dungeon...)

and don't worry too much, need practice ;)

Biggest thing I did as a Warrior was I first read up on the dungeon. The first thing the strat said was that the mobs in this dungeon hit hard and that you want your gear up to date. So what did I do? I went to the AH, or did a couple of quests till I had atleast lvl 40 gear in what I could, and no les than 38 where I couldn't.

Looking at your profile, you need to upgrade your rings, get rid of that Spiritbind pos, upgrade the plate belt, the earrings and most definitely the shield.

Now i don't know much aboout the shield as I'm a warrior, but iirc you chould have a slightly higher block strength than rate, as block strength deals with how much you block, and block rate is how often you block, though I could have the backwards and you need it the other way around.

Ahh, good ole Stone Vigil...

One of the first dungeons to actually challenge you on trash pulls. Lot of good comments about how to deal with that, so I won't add more. If you do it well - and it may take several times through to get it - then really not too bad.

Bosses were pretty simple. Overall easier than Qarn I thought, although Qarn is the lower level dungeon.

I like dungeoning generally. Both here and in other MMOs. If you're grinding fates or questing and rarely do dungeons, you're going to have a harder time due to unfamiliarity.

Also, your party makes a big difference. Some players are just bad. Since I wasn't there, can't say how much of OP's problem was his actions vs. party members.

Edit: also, gear makes a pretty big difference. If 3/4 of your gear is more than 5 levels below your current level and/or white quest stuff, that'll make it hard. If your gear is 80% from current or 1 previous dungeon, that'll make it a lot easier.

I think you had a bad group because I have very little problems in SV. There is a problem with people trying to get through the content too quickly and they need to understand it is not a race. Take a loook at my video on the last boss and you can see how my group handled it and how they should be working. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noz_Mi1JVBo
What world are you on and have you talked to your FC about doing runs with you? We are NA Diabolos and if you are shoot me a message in game and I can help.

Do marking, and remember, mouse overing mobs gives you the lines to what other mobs said mobs are linked TO. The roaming dragons usually are not linked to anything, but they can at times link to something if they are too close to a pack.