Cutscene after Credits roll: SPOILERS

Anyone else notice that the second unknown Ascian to walk forward after the camera pans to Lahabrea is Lightning or has a very very similar hair style to Lightning.

Is this the tie into the Lightning ARR FATE? Let's compare.

http://i43.tinypic.com/35bi0p4.jpg

http://geek.pikimal.com/files/2011/0...ghtningPNG.jpg

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Originally Posted by shinros

Er I swear her hair is blue? Plus lightning being an ascian makes no sense and if they do make her one so help me I will be sooo pissed off.

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Ascians can control/brainwash people with dark crystals. The room is also kept dark and unlit on purpose or has light from a dim blue source. It would distort the coloring of people's hair.

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Originally Posted by Sajomir

So I wasn't the only person who noticed this! If you start looking at the other unmasked characters as well, don't they resemble Balthier and Cloud? Even the earrings Balthier wears are similar, and this appears to be the only Ascian with earrings.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps5d2d8fca.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps00a7a3ed.jpg

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Baltheir used a weapon very similar to Merlwyb's pistol and we know Musketeer is coming!

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Originally Posted by Whitemage82

Anyone else notice that the second unknown Ascian to walk forward after the camera pans to Lahabrea is Lightning or has a very very similar hair style to Lightning.

Is this the tie into the Lightning ARR FATE? Let's compare.

http://i43.tinypic.com/35bi0p4.jpg

http://geek.pikimal.com/files/2011/0...ghtningPNG.jpg

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Only it sounded like a guy and has blue hair

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Originally Posted by Korbenik

Only it sounded like a guy and has blue hair

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Go back and watch the cut scene. The second distorted voice is a woman. The voice is in another language and distorted on purpose and there's no lighting so see features or actual hair color on purpose. The room is dark.

Er I swear her hair is blue? Plus lightning being an ascian makes no sense and if they do make her one so help me I will be sooo pissed off.

I know they can posses people with dark crystals but my beef is why are they in OUR world. If they make this some world crossing story I am going to be quite sad.

remember Ascians are formless and can take over the body of any living being through dark crystals.
It is possible they might have gotten at lighting through the void(since the void pretty much connects to every final fantasy game)

So I wasn't the only person who noticed this! If you start looking at the other unmasked characters as well, don't they resemble Balthier and Cloud? Even the earrings Balthier wears are similar, and this appears to be the only Ascian with earrings.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps5d2d8fca.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps00a7a3ed.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps1e81d768.png

I thought this was lightning immediately, thought the same thing, once I saw that, rewatched it and started seeing if I could recognize anyone else, glad to see others had the same though progression.

Oh dear please square don't go this route pleasssse don't. *drops on knee's* I beg you square DON'T please don't do this you remember the beta forums when you said lightning was going to be in the game? You remember the sheer amount of people who were upset? Just don't please I don't want these three in the story.

Lightning having a fate is fair enough but other final fantasy characters being a part of XIV main story? No. please no.

I hope she and Balthier are part of the main story because clearly the fanboy tears are delicious.

Refering mainly to all the anti-feminist fanboys who dislike Lightning because of her gender.

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Originally Posted by Bufkus

I hope she and Balthier are part of the main story because clearly the fanboy tears are delicious.

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I am just trying to look on the bright side of all this at least I get to beat them up. =_=

But geez I am just hoping they change their minds. >_<

I think they just wanted to reuse a hair style they added into the game. Get the most out of an asset. The other two are normal hair styles players can pick. I bet we will be able to get Lightning hair when they add the barber shop.

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Originally Posted by Riposte

I think they just wanted to reuse a hair style they added into the game. Get the most out of an asset. The other two are normal hair styles players can pick. I bet we will be able to get Lightning hair when they add the barber shop.

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I can see that but I mean really look at the image its TOO much of a coincidence that they look like these characters plus square said in beta lightning was going to be in the game. I don't know what to think anymore....

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Originally Posted by Riposte

I think they just wanted to reuse a hair style they added into the game. Get the most out of an asset. The other two are normal hair styles players can pick. I bet we will be able to get Lightning hair when they add the barber shop.

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Yes, but every single major NPC has a hairstyle from the character creator. There's no reason they couldn't decide that those look close enough to existing Final Fantasy characters and run with it. :)

Thats a good possibility IMO especially since Yoshida promised that she will fit into the lore of FF14 =\

It seems to me that the Ascians may have a way to catch people through the void to further their own ends.

It's obviously not clear and they (SE) don't want to spoil things completely at this moment. But that is Lightning. I put over 120 hours into XIII and I got XIII-2 to 100% and I've quite familiar with her in game model.

People I have discussed this with think that the 3rd isn't Cloud it's Tidus.

Tidus would be interesting. I liked the ending to FFX quite a bit, so who knows where his existence could turn up. Personally, I feel it was more likely that the character creator's hairstyle would be more likely to be modeled after Cloud than Tidus based on sheer popularity. Who knows, though?

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Originally Posted by Sajomir

So I wasn't the only person who noticed this! If you start looking at the other unmasked characters as well, don't they resemble Balthier and Cloud? Even the earrings Balthier wears are similar, and this appears to be the only Ascian with earrings.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps5d2d8fca.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps00a7a3ed.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps1e81d768.png

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That earring does look very Bathier for sure, but that hairstyle is in game, so not totally convinced but I can see the similarity.

Clearly that's lightning, no doubt.


the other guy that hair is just so Tidus. It's really hard to get a pic from the side at that angle without playing FFX, but I don't know of anyone else in XIV with that haircut.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2u4kaza.jpg

MMOs never re-use character model assets such as hair, ever.

True story.

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Originally Posted by ReiszRie

Thats a good possibility IMO especially since Yoshida promised that she will fit into the lore of FF14 =\

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More like the other way around, really. If you read the plot premise for Lightning Returns, I think it may hint as to how they're going to tie Lightning's world to FFXIV's.

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Originally Posted by Korbenik

Only it sounded like a guy and has blue hair

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listen to it in japanese. it clearly sounds like a woman in the japanese version... too bad I don't know if it's Lightning's Va from there.... and the blue hair can be because of the room being not very bright and having a weird lighting to it.

It looks like her and I thought the same but *shrugs* I'll just wait and see if it is her.

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Originally Posted by Nialle

More like the other way around, really. If you read the plot premise for Lightning Returns, I think it may hint as to how they're going to tie Lightning's world to FFXIV's.

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I was kind of hoping they'd just have her hitch a ride in with Gilgamesh. What makes Gilgamesh Gilgamesh is his ability to travel the void between Final Fantasy settings, so no one would be able to complain about anything other than SE taking an easy sidestreet. Plus it would be funny when they just randomly show up in Ul'dah.

Lightning: "NOT THIS COLISEUM, YOU DOLT."
Gilgamesh: "YOU NEVER SPECIFIED. HAND OVER THE MECHANICAL SWORD, PINKY."

The Void exists outside the different universes and, from how its been used and explained, pretty much connects the different worlds. We already know that it's possible to get from world to world from the void thanks to our friendly neighborhood Gilgamesh. The Ascians seem to use the void. If they start using it to tear open holes, who knows who'll be unlucky enough to find those holes, step inside, and wind up getting their butts handed to them by us. Please don't bring in Balthier though. He's too awesome to lose to us.

Maybe they are just created to resemble the main characters of all the final fantasies but aren't truly the originals?

Like sharing personality, weapons of choice and their appearance, but having different names and being characters in this setting with no connection to Ivalice, Spira, Gaia, Cocoon/Pulse?

Sort of like recognizable fanserviecy easter eggs?:cool:

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Originally Posted by Trystane

Maybe they are just created to resemble the main characters of all the final fantasies but aren't truly the originals?

Like sharing personality, weapons of choice and their appearance, but having different names and being characters in this setting with no connection to Ivalice, Spira, Gaia, Cocoon/Pulse?

Sort of like recognizable fanserviecy easter eggs?:cool:

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That sounds a lot easier to swallow, actually. I mean, back when FF8 came out, I had always fancied Rinoa to be no more than a Tifa-wannabe (even though the two are totally not alike in any way; though this comes from one who hasn't played FF8).

Well...

Lightning is a bit of a void-spectator in Valhalla, so I can buy her getting into Eorzea.

Tidus is a dream/primal, so I get him being able to end up in Eorzea.

...but Balthier? I can't see it. Earrings aside, that hairstyle doesn't quite fit either.

I think you guys who think those were Balthier and Tidus/Cloud are reading too much into it? Those are pre-existing Hyur Male hairstyles... although it beats me why they specifically modelled the female ascian after Lightning...

I'll at least humour the fringe theory. Because if it's true, they deserve kudos for calling it.

And I've had some even more wild fringe theories during my time here.

One word: Fanservice

I doubt that any of those ascians are/will be the actual FF characters. But I wouldn't be surprised if they will be made to resemble famous FF characters in the franchise. Just like how Nael van Darnus was basically Sephiroth in an armor(personality).

The one who you call Cloud seems more like Bartz to me, since lore/story wise he is more connected to ARR lore than anyone else.

1. Knows Gilgamesh.
2. Has been into the Interdimensional Rift.
3. Light Warrior
4. Protector of the Crystal

This seems to be more logical than Cloud fanboi's reasoning :3