ff14 no big challenges

i feel ff14 dont offer me a lot of challenges . level up are very too quick , fate is the easy 3 min zerk , donjon are easy but what make them hard is the random party , i speak too a lot of old ffix player 2003 and dont like 14 because is too easy ,fate reward is realy too much xp and too easy ,ff14is a very good game, i just hope the game will be more hard thx

Grats on finishing the Coil of Bahamut.

Donjon.

10char

Grats! All content cleared and worlds first. Nice job. Hopefully SE will see that FFIX is the kind of challenge players are looking for.

who feel is hard and slow levelup too 50?
who feel fate are hard ?

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OP has clearly not gotten past level 30... or solo FATE'd to 50, and has no idea, as Musou is bringing forward. OP Love to have you help my FC do Chimera/Hydra/Primal/AK runs, it's hard work wiping and educating.

Dem donjons r hard.

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who feel is hard and slow levelup too 50?
who feel fate are hard ?

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Nobody, because they're not supposed to be. Do the level 50 content and then say it's easy, if you still feel that way. Saying the easy parts of the game are easy is.... pointless...

This is only the beginning. SE has been talking about raising the level cap since 1.0. Hard primal weapons level go way beyond the cap of 50. I think SE is waiting for the 2.0 players to get semi caught up to the 1.0 players. FATE exp is probably high due to 2.0 have to catch up to 1.0 players all 50 level characters. Meaning all you 2.0 players who level one class and think you are done heading for end game should think again and invest in other classes. Yes, the armor/instances are tons easier in 2.0 than it was in 1.0. They are old instances remade. Old end game content is old. It is only the beginning give it a few months more instances, battles, storyline will be added to the game. People need to quit crying and think about future content.

You haven't even touched the Coil of Bahamut where the difficulty is really challenging. Even the first boss ADS is no joke.

Honestly,

The game is very very easy, then gets a bit more complicated in Brayflox, somewhat complicated in Quarn, and after you finish the story Yoshi lets the flood gates go. So if you're looking for a challenge, FATE and open world mobs are total trash.


Go queue for Garuda hard mode, have fun!!!

DF

/10chars

It gets much harder once you get past the level 20 mark. 7_7

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When you leveled your first class to level 50, then have beaten "donjons" such as Amdapor Keep, Wanderer's Palace, and all three Primals in hard mode... everything in one attempt, then you have my permission to complain how easy the game is.

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come on who play ffix in 2003 release of the Rise of the Zilart here ,that game are realy hardcore , dont told me now the game is hard , before you realy need to be good to solo 1 mob of the same level , in this game my warrior take 3 or 4 mob is amost impossible to die vs any mob of my level , yea maybe some part in the end game are more hard but is 5% to10% of all the game ? anyway i love the game and like hardcore gameplay , i realy miss soloing some nm alone a dont realy like the open target is not challenging

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come on who play ffix in 2003 release of the Rise of the Zilart here ,that game are realy hardcore...

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come on who play ffix in 2003 release of the Rise of the Zilart here ,that game are realy hardcore , dont told me now the game is hard , before you realy need to be good to solo 1 mob of the same level , in this game my warrior take 3 or 4 mob is amost impossible to die vs any mob of my level , yea maybe some part in the end game are more hard but is 5% to10% of all the game ? anyway i love the game and like hardcore gameplay , i realy miss soloing some nm alone a dont realy like the open target is not challenging

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.. I almost didn't even want to dignify that with a response. I'm still trying to figure out whether you are for real or just trolling.

However, it is definitely no lie that FFXI was much more challenging than FFXIV. I doubt FFXIV will ever be as challenging as FFXI was in Pre-Abyssea days.

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come on who play ffix in 2003 release of the Rise of the Zilart here ,that game are realy hardcore , dont told me now the game is hard , before you realy need to be good to solo 1 mob of the same level , in this game my warrior take 3 or 4 mob is amost impossible to die vs any mob of my level , yea maybe some part in the end game are more hard but is 5% to10% of all the game ? anyway i love the game and like hardcore gameplay , i realy miss soloing some nm alone a dont realy like the open target is not challenging

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who feel is hard and slow levelup too 50?
who feel fate are hard ?

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Give me 2 Games in which the process of leveling up is hard and not tedious. And as you said (well trying to understand what you said) it has to be fast as well? So hard and fast...... >.>. And who said Fates should be hard xD? Good luck on Garuda,Titan and Coil of Bahamut :).


FFXI (and yes it is XI not IX) was in a different time era, different design choices. It wasn't harder it was just a lot more tedious to do ANYTHING. Crafting was broken, leveling up was just Spirit breaking and stupid. Quests were beyond retarded, but the endgame was great fun. I love XI but MANY things in this game are just beyond stupid and should never be repeated.
Wasting a lot of time does not mean it was hard. You just wasted weeks to month to level up because it was slow as balls. Time investment and difficulty are not the same thing.

Difficult:
Avoiding things in a short perioid of time while still heal/dps
Anticipate the next Ability of the Boss.
React fast when things go ape shit.
Watch and pay attention to your teammates/Boss/Sourropunding


Time sink:
Kill 500 mobs for one level up
Getting a skill up's while hitting skill up mobs..... (Guard,Block,Evasion,parry come to mind as even worse time sinks before Abyssea)
Genkais (Limit Breaks)


Those things are not difficult they are just annoying and only made to waste your time another month. Leveling up is not supposed to be difficult it is supposed to be a journey from A level 1 to B level 50.

Please go help your fellow server mate the easy Titan hard

This is not end game, 50 is no where close to end game, this is just the beginning so of course it is easy. Ultimately this is for the newer players to catch up to all of the 1.0 players and to have everyone on a "close to even playing field" skill wise and gear wise when they do raise the level cap and implement the challenging dungeons that will happen with it as well. I agree it is easy, but it is easy for that reason and probably some others, but that is more than likely its true core reason.

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This is not end game, 50 is no where close to end game, this is just the beginning so of course it is easy. Ultimately this is for the newer players to catch up to all of the 1.0 players and to have everyone on a "close to even playing field" skill wise and gear wise when they do raise the level cap and implement the challenging dungeons that will happen with it as well. I agree it is easy, but it is easy for that reason and probably some others, but that is more than likely its true core reason.

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let hope your right :) is just every one running anywhere after fate inside the world and anyone realy worry to be agro because monster dont slow player too engage the fight ,the resut player dont respect or fear any zone or afriad too die , i remenber the timei play ffix and run inside sky , i realy takecare :) or the time my character got low heal arond skeletor inside king reapertomb :)

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the Coil of Bahamut how many % of the world or game is ? 5% max ?

I actually agree with OP...
The game IS easy.

If there are couple harder things in the game (Coil of Bahamut and Titan hardmode imo), it doesn't mean the game is not easy.

I am extremely casual (never got relic etc. in FFXI) player, I have played the whole storyline, job quests for jobs I play (all casters), I have Ifrit wep for the class I like the most and I am dressed in darklight gear (pretty much the best stuff there is at the moment). Oh and did I mention that I am at Titan fight for my relic as well...

In a month, every player and their mother is going to be in the best gear there is and then what? We wait for the next patch... ?

I know the game just came out and all that, but come on.. if I can get this far in only couple of weeks, what about the hardcore players?

I agree with the OP, 95% of ffxiv, there is no element of fear. There should be that feeling in the open world, not just in the dungeons or boss fights.

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the Coil of Bahamut how many % of the world or game is ? 5% max ?

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I like donjon.

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come on who play ffix in 2003 release of the Rise of the Zilart here ,that game are realy hardcore , dont told me now the game is hard , before you realy need to be good to solo 1 mob of the same level , in this game my warrior take 3 or 4 mob is amost impossible to die vs any mob of my level , yea maybe some part in the end game are more hard but is 5% to10% of all the game ? anyway i love the game and like hardcore gameplay , i realy miss soloing some nm alone a dont realy like the open target is not challenging

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As someone who played ffxi back then I can agree LEVELING was harder only due to the fact you spent 3 days lfp and no you didn't need to party on mobs of the same level you would overhunt on IT mobs with a party generally 6-8 levels above you up to 10+ depending on the level spread and party setup. If you were fighting EM mobs you were probably on bst solo not in a party (also manyjobs were easily soloing EM mobs back then thf nin rdm blm smn rng with bloody bolts etc) so not really sure if you actually played ffxi back then or want to believe you did.

Also if this is a troll post a tip... Successful trolling makes people mad, it does not make them think you are dumb.

Just wanted to point out that a longer leveling period does not make a game more difficult, it just makes it tedious. Many mmo players confuse tedium with difficulty.

I only started recently due to not being able to buy online so I can't comment on the actual difficulty of endgame content. It just makes no sense to complain that we don't waste enough time on easy content when discussing difficulty.

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Don't talk about challenges till you have at least cleared that hardest content there is. Did u even clear garuda Hardmode?

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come on who play ffix in 2003 release of the Rise of the Zilart here ,that game are realy hardcore , dont told me now the game is hard , before you realy need to be good to solo 1 mob of the same level , in this game my warrior take 3 or 4 mob is amost impossible to die vs any mob of my level , yea maybe some part in the end game are more hard but is 5% to10% of all the game ? anyway i love the game and like hardcore gameplay , i realy miss soloing some nm alone a dont realy like the open target is not challenging

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ffxi was hardcore because of grinding but the game overall was extremely easy. you had sneak/invis to bypass mobs, u stayed stationary while in xp parties, you had re-raise that EVERYONE had access to, classes were not difficult to learn and now that i think about it kind of boring(melee = build tp, pop cds and use ws), none of the endgame had any real strat(kill x, fight from distance, rez spam, kite). Also, when they created 14 it was suppose to be more casual friendly than 11, comparing the two when they were never made to compete with each other in the first place is kinda retarded. Those rose colored glasses are showing you a game that was more awesome than it actually was. FFXI was ok for its time but i think i mostly played for social reasons and because it was final fantasy.

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come on who play ffix in 2003 release of the Rise of the Zilart here ,that game are realy hardcore , dont told me now the game is hard , before you realy need to be good to solo 1 mob of the same level , in this game my warrior take 3 or 4 mob is amost impossible to die vs any mob of my level , yea maybe some part in the end game are more hard but is 5% to10% of all the game ? anyway i love the game and like hardcore gameplay , i realy miss soloing some nm alone a dont realy like the open target is not challenging

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Looked you up on the lodestone.

You have never touched a single hardmode encounter as far as i can tell all you've done is ran AK a bit. No relic no Titan HM, no coil progress(in that gear you'd not be able to tank it).

So you claim the game has no challenges and you've not touched any of the big endgame content.

I took the time to google this player and come here because he is an incredibly toxic member of the community; I reported him and want to make sure this gets visibility. Me and three others formed a shout group on Leviathan and joined queue for AK. We were paired with this individual after a 45 minute wait.
We started off fine, even if Ultimax was a bit hard to understand. He mentioned me missing sleeps as a BLM, and I was caught off guard since I rarely sleep trash on level 1, and instead only sleep houndlights. So, given the propensity for mobs to summon adds, I led slept groups to keep the void summoning from acting, and also the aoe sleep worked more effectively. Ultimax responded by saying tank was supposed to pull, and let the mobs wake and wipe the group. Obviously emotions ran high, and one of my teammates was very upset. The other teammate and myself apologized, and offered to let him continue the dungeon. He did not, and instead went afk.

continued- The three of us killed the first boss alone, with a titan pet tanking.

On the next level we again apologized, and Ultimax complained. After waiting five minutes, we decided to continue without him and the pet grabbed aggro and I cc'd mobs. Ultimax responded by hitting cc'd mobs in a further attempt to wipe us. Titan, luckily, was strong enough to tank multiple mobs. As a result, Ultimax instead resorted to pulling extra groups to us. My teammates wanted to continue, but I decided to just report harassment and leave.
This cost me a lot of time and personal enjoyment. I believe a player like this should be punished, and I am afraid nothing will happen through the normal channel. I also would like some measure of resolution regarding the incident.
Square, please do what you can to make sure we have a positive community. I love this game and I want to enjoy the ability to randomly pair and have good experiences.
Atrael Vivi, Leviathan

i know op might be trolling but he does have a point the game is actually easy. i am currently in Coil turn 2 and i have reached there by pugging the entire content, and the reason am still in turn 2 is because i cant seem to make a group to go there. we downed the first boss in turn 1 in like 7 tries, it was basically trying different things and hes down. turn two isnt that hard too its just some management. i really hope the other turns are more challenging.

I'm sorry there may be an ethical component to a witch hunt post anyway, but I'm so upset right now my heart is palpitating and I'm very stressed. I had a very hard day at work and some personal challenges. I've come home to play and had to wait an hour to have my evening ruined by a stranger with no reason to have a grudge against me. I mean, this kind of thing literally makes me wonder about people sometimes. Who would do this? Why? What do they gain? Ugh. It's a game and I'm just trying to have fun with fellow people.

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boo hoo I don't understand what the game is balanced around

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So because a regular mob in the world of the same level is stronger than you in XI, this game is easier? Your logic is astounding. you have to fight mobs above your level if you want them to be harder, but this game isn't about pounding outside monsters into a pulp over and over.

Go find a FATE NM that nobody is doing, and solo it at its level. It's not so easy.

If you want a challenge, play challenging content. Don't cry to us that you can beat weak monsters easily and think the whole game is easy because of it. Like others said, go beat Titan or Coil of bahamut then try to tell us the game is easy.

You're basically telling me that FFXI was better because it took an eternity to kill things. Slow combat does not make the game harder or easier. it just makes it take longer.