getting rid od gear/weapon repairs

I see no point in a system that prevents you from playing 100% at your best always in this game. At the moment its not verry bearable but once they lessen the rate at which they will but that still won’t solve the problem. The npc cant 100% repair it for you, looking for someone to repair it for you, put it in your bizarre and hope someone magically comes and finds it to repair it, and the fact you can't sell dmg gear.

I can also understand gear ware because you’re fighting and hitting thing but why does it happen when you craft. I can see the weapon wearing but what the gear you are not doing a darn thing but making an item. Maybe it could the fact you make take slight dmg when crafting but why even take dmg while crafting?

All I see lessening the rate at which anything wares is basically waiting for this one frustrating thing to happen. Some people might say well after gear ware you get to interact with the crafter you find so tell me this how is that fun how is it fun wasting your time looking for a crafter to repair your crap or simply afk bizzaring it. All you want after your gear is worn is basically get it repaired so you can get back to what you were doing that was actually fun or so you can get your item on the marketing system after so you can sell it faster.

For all those people who prefer it over loosing xp like in ffxi because as some have said getting you xp back was to time consuming why? Is it more fun to interact with 1 person or a group of 5+ people? What is truly more fun finding 1 person to repair you items or actually killing mobs with multiple people for more of a chance to make more friends vs. 1 people for repairing?

i rather stay with this then having my XP lost and got de-level-ed.

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I dont mind repairs because you only need rk40 on the main repairing classes and your find. I can get anything i want repaired by asking LS

But then again why would I? Gear damn is useless to anything other than a Tank and Weapons/Tools. Why does anyone repair crafting gear its so stupid, its stupid for mages to repair gear too.

• A better solution is to half the costs of current NPC repairs across the board.
• Allow NPC to repair back up to 100%
• But make it so players can repair items to 125%, which could also give a 25% increase in all the items statistical buffs until the items durability dropped back to 100% or less.
• Allow Players to repair items without needing mats, just skill.

And no to level loss, it doesnt make the game more realistic, it doesn't make the game feel more hardcore when you die, it just makes progress more tedious. If I want to rank some more, I will play one of the 18 jobs in game, nit re-rank my damn character.

It's not hard getting your gear repaired. There's even a market ward for it. I put my gear up for repair on my retainer and almost every time within the hour, it's repaired. In the meantime I do something else, like craft or rank up another job.

So please do not get rid of equipment durability. It gives crafters a more active role in the world, which is great!

Edit: Also, if you don't want to wait for your gear to be repaired, have two of every weapon. So when one is damaged and needs repair, you can use the other one. It works great! Yea, you gotta buy two of every weapon if you go this route, but it's a technique I use, and it works for me. You can choose to rank up a craft so you can repair your own gear, too, if you pleased.

-Lonni

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Originally Posted by Lonni_Bonni

It's not hard getting your gear repaired. There's even a market ward for it. I put my gear up for repair on my retainer and almost every time within the hour, it's repaired. In the meantime I do something else, like craft or rank up another job.

So please do not get rid of equipment durability. It gives crafters a more active role in the world, which is great!

-Lonni

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Really? Crafters make 99% of the items in this game. Their role is plenty large as well as active. Repair doesn't need to go, but it needs an overhaul.

With the new changes to item decay I dont have to repair gear very much at all if i'm using the appropriate level/class.

Heck i've used some gear through multiple classes without repairing it (my second retainer has a bunch of all classes sets at different levels)


Edit: I quit XI because of two and a half things

1) Getting a group was a real pain/ and you couldnt solo.
2) Hooray i gained a level, BOOM A LADYBUG KILLED YOU, LEVEL DOWN. It kind of just felt like all my stuff was on lease

I joined XIV because they told me these two things would no longer be an issue, and they arent.

Remove the Durability, replace it with a "Used Status" that is unsellable so that a worn item becomes used and only repairing it from a Crafter can make it "Refurbished" and resellable. Also make Unique/Rare items immune to durability.

I like the gear damage system. Sure, it'd be easier if it wasn't there, but it's a part of the game that adds to the economy and gets people interacting with each other.

One thing I'd like to be able to see is the stat difference the damaged weapon is causing. I'd also like to see items with 0% durability become unusable until being repaired.

What interaction? Had a few thank yous here and there and a taru that was really appreciative for fixing his staff. Other then that not much interacting. I fix, get paid, thank you, good bye. Repair system is barely even a gil-sink since the npc prices get too absurd.

If anything the repair system is just going to not attract certain player's from buying the game. If they made the npc prices much lower, repair to 100% and add jewelry then I wouldn't mine it. It would also work as a true gil-sink then. Other then that I'm for just scrapping it. It has a bad taste in too many players mouth and deserves to die a lonely death.

I agree! This needs to be fixed! It should work like so:

Less than 50% wear should result in gear being 10% effective
Items should wear 400% faster than it does right now
Weapons should wear slightly faster than that, but not by much.
NPC repairers should charge twice as much as they do right now.

I think that would fix everything, despite what some people think (and should know better).

The durability really isn't that much of a problem, especially after the last update. If you wear rank and class appropriate equipment, you should be good to go for awhile. They are continuously adjusting this as well.

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Originally Posted by Vesper

• A better solution is to half the costs of current NPC repairs across the board.
• Allow NPC to repair back up to 100%
• But make it so players can repair items to 125%, which could also give a 25% increase in all the items statistical buffs until the items durability dropped back to 100% or less.
• Allow Players to repair items without needing mats, just skill.

And no to level loss, it doesnt make the game more realistic, it doesn't make the game feel more hardcore when you die, it just makes progress more tedious. If I want to rank some more, I will play one of the 18 jobs in game, nit re-rank my damn character.

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This.
I dont mind repairs but i think this fits perfectly in what i think about it. Also weapons need to be a bit more durable. Its much better since the update but i feel it goes down a LITTLE bit too fast still.

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Originally Posted by SleepyTaru

What interaction? Had a few thank yous here and there and a taru that was really appreciative for fixing his staff. Other then that not much interacting. I fix, get paid, thank you, good bye. Repair system is barely even a gil-sink since the npc prices get too absurd.

If anything the repair system is just going to not attract certain player's from buying the game. If they made the npc prices much lower, repair to 100% and add jewelry then I wouldn't mine it. It would also work as a true gil-sink then. Other then that I'm for just scrapping it. It has a bad taste in too many players mouth and deserves to die a lonely death.

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This is terribly true. I'm being completely honest when I say the repair system is one of the main reasons I just don't log in anymore. I do not want to have to find someone to repair my gear or wait for someone in the wards to do it.

If I could just repair my gear to full by going to an NPC, I'd be completely fine with it. And I'd probably make FFXIV my main game again if that was done, along with a proper Auction House.

I love the system. It gives depth to crafting classes more than just "make stuff"

Keep it in game is my vote.

If you don't like it, vendor repair your gear.

I didn't have a problem with durability until I found out that the NPC only repairs to 75% and asks for WAY to much gil to repair them, and you need 5 million crafts leveled up to repair your gear.

The biggest potential issue I see is the need for a specific material to use to repair the item. If repairs could be done without the material, that would be a huge bonus, I think. It would also let any crafter who meets the class and level requirement repair any piece of gear, so getting repairs on certain items wouldn't be such a pain.

Yes, you can carry a stack of repair mats on you and bazaar them, but that still strikes me as a bit of a hassle, for both parties.

I agree with dropping NPC repair cost.

Wow, so now talking about the repair system? i mean why is it a bother? No interaction? maybe you're not so sociable? maybe you're not that talkative? Or maybe you just don't want to do it that your problem. Not SE.

For me it's the amount of different repairmaterials that's doing it for me. I carry around 15 to 20 materials at all times just to be able to repair my own and my husbands gear. It's clogging up so much room. Maybe something like repair kits could be implemented like leather repairkit for ranks 1~20, 21~40 etc. this would be a huge help already. Crafters could make these kits or they could be bought from the respective guilds and players could carry them with them for ease.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

Wow, so now talking about the repair system? i mean why is it a bother? No interaction? maybe you're not so sociable? maybe you're not that talkative? Or maybe you just don't want to do it that your problem. Not SE.

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Because the way its handled right now is dumb. And to be frank, I never cared for gear being damaged in any MMO. Its one of the main reasons I refused to play WoW and stuck with FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Veasna

For me it's the amount of different repairmaterials that's doing it for me. I carry around 15 to 20 materials at all times just to be able to repair my own and my husbands gear. It's clogging up so much room. Maybe something like repair kits could be implemented like leather repairkit for ranks 1~20, 21~40 etc. this would be a huge help already. Crafters could make these kits or they could be bought from the respective guilds and players could carry them with them for ease.

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Thank you! Which mean that SE should fix'ed the way Repair system is made, maybe less repair materials type needed to repair items! That way is more hassle free!

I do not like the repair/durability system at all. I would much rather they completely remove it. I doubt this will happen, but I would at least like to play an 8-12 hr grinding session non-stop before I even need to be concerened about the gear damage status. Then I wouldn't mind so much putting my gear up overnight to get it repaired. I relaize the durability is not as much of an issue now, but honestly if I have to worry about it every couple of hours and if it takes me longer than 5 seconds to get my gear repaired I am being overly inconvienienced.So it need not be removed, if they can just make it more convienient. Two things could help with this:
1. Let us get a full day of gear use (approx 8 hrs)before needing to worry about gear damage.
2. Let PCs be able to repair gear that is equiped.

Hey, if the NPC can figure it out, why cant players.

The "repairs requested" icon on the bazar solved any kind of issue that could exist with repairing gear, while retaining the (very positive) interaction between crafters and adventurers.

Also, repairing is a money sink, and this game needs MORE money sinks, not less.

So no. There's no need to get rid of the system and you can pretty much bet your whole yearly wages that it won't be removed. Tell'em your local brooker gave you a safe bet.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

The "repairs requested" icon on the bazar solved any kind of issue that could exist with repairing gear, while retaining the (very positive) interaction between crafters and adventurers.

Also, repairing is a money sink, and this game needs MORE money sinks, not less.

So no. There's no need to get rid of the system and you can pretty much bet your whole yearly wages that it won't be removed. Tell'em your local brooker gave you a safe bet.

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I really don't give a damn about the interaction with the crafters. Gear gets damaged way to fast. It should take atleast several days before you even need to worry about it. My shit hits 50% in less then a few hours. Then I have to sit in town hoping some jackass will repair my stuff, or pay a ridiculous amount to have the npc fix it to 75%.

The system either needs to go away completely or have an extreme revision to it. As of right now, ITS DUMB AS HELL.

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Originally Posted by Raansu

I really don't give a damn about the interaction with the crafters. Gear gets damaged way to fast. It should take atleast several days before you even need to worry about it. My shit hits 50% in less then a few hours. Then I have to sit in town hoping some jackass will repair my stuff, or pay a ridiculous amount to have the npc fix it to 75%.

The system either needs to go away completely or have an extreme revision to it. As of right now, ITS DUMB AS HELL.

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Are you using gear thats way above your level?

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Originally Posted by Raansu

I really don't give a damn about the interaction with the crafters.

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What you give a damn about isn't necessarily what's good for the game. And in a MMORPG interaction is good for the game.

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The system either needs to go away completely or have an extreme revision to it. As of right now, ITS DUMB AS HELL.

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Ah, old dear demands "Because I say so!"

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Originally Posted by Nephera

Are you using gear thats way above your level?

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I wouldn't be surprised.

If SE decides to stick with the repair system where crafters have to use mats, please at least have that required mat be something that the repairer can make~ there are times when i think i can fix something for someone, but then realize i that i not only lack the mat but I can't even make it.

Even though I hate it and no amount of saying it promotes interaction or is needed as a gil sink will make me change my mind. I still would like to take the middle ground and repeat what I said earlier:
1. Let me play approx 8 hrs before needing to even worry about gear damage.
2. Let players be able to repair equiped gear.
and now that I think of it.
3. 100% repair from NPC on all gear. It can still be more expensive, but I'd like it for an emergency.......... oh crap noones around to repair moment.

Wow all these threads to get rid of the repair costs and item degradation in favor of EXP/SP loss. I hate to be blunt but come on people. if you find it time consuming to look for someone to repair you gear ask an LS mate or better yet level up a craft so you can repair it yourself. EXP/SP loss is a much bigger punishment than having to fork over some Gil for a repair bill.