One Shot abilities....to many

Really, really done with them, every boss past lvl 35 apparently needs one. most seem to be some aoe or something that hits for way to much. last 3 dungeons seem to have nothing but. One misstep or even better your wonderful servers lagging and your dead...... atm a happy healer this does not make. and from what the community says its gets worse.....much worse.....one shot mechanics does not make a good game, its a cheap shortcut for not making encounters better....and I for one will not be playing because of them.

NO I don't want easy mode, I like a tough fight to make it by the skin of your teeth, but getting one shot is just dumb, as well as tank being crit for half their hp....So yet again I wait for a game that does shit right....bye FF hope you the best

Maybe I just am good at moving out of bad stuff, but besides titans latency aoe, I did not notice any one shot skills. What bosses have them?

I'm unsure what players like OP wants... theres no way to make an encounter to "make it by the skin of your teeth" as players have different gear sets, what makes it by the skin of your teeth would be a one shot to those with lesser gear and plain easy to those with greater gear...

one-shot mechanics jolts you from your seat and demands attention and awareness to a fight in order to determine and defeat the one-shot mechanic...

the first encounter i had with an actual one shot is in in Sunken, where i entered with the mindset of another easy tank and spank but the first boss handed me my ass with Doom.

RPG's and FFies have traditionally had three versions of the type of damage I think the OP is looking for.

% of current HP:
Attacks that take a % of your current HP. (thus cannot kill you).

% of Max HP;
Attacks that take a % of your Max HP. (thus, does equal damage however low your HP is and can be lethal)

Critical HP;
attacks that reduce HP to a particular level i.e., "critical" (perhaps about 15% of Max HP) or to "1 HP".


I see what the OP means. It might be nice to have some of the bosses attacks like that, as a better chance to see what your healer is made of.

Duh...giving bosses 1 shot attacks is the only way SE knows how to make a fight "hard"....

Some people call this retard checks.

Its a dungeon mechanic, much like a boss gear check in the form of "kill the nail before it explodes and kills everyone" and if you don't have a group with good enough gear you wont be able to kill it fast enough.

Only this is a retard check. Meaning "can your group members watch a youtube video prior to running the instance" or "can your teammates see the debuff counting down that kills you and make it to a very obvious location to remove it"

Its usually a mechanic to make sure your group isn't utterly brain dead...which is why they call it a retard check.

"don't stand in the stuff that kills you" Well if they made that just give a slap on the wrist for failing to do so...then why bother even moving...right?

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Originally Posted by Aurongroove

RPG's and FFies have traditionally had three versions of the type of damage I think the OP is looking for.

% of current HP:
Attacks that take a % of your current HP. (thus cannot kill you).

% of Max HP;
Attacks that take a % of your Max HP. (thus, does equal damage however low your HP is and can be lethal)

Critical HP;
attacks that reduce HP to a particular level i.e., "critical" (perhaps about 15% of Max HP) or to "1 HP".


I see what the OP means. It might be nice to have some of the bosses attacks like that, as a better chance to see what your healer is made of.

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The traditional FFs you're talking about are single player RPGs...

On the topic of FF14 as a MMO, wouldn't what you've suggested make the game too easy? in a sense that players no longer have the need to gear for encounters as now, attacks does percentage damage which is guaranteed not to kill you... as long as you have sufficient heals, you just can't die and as such, premade parties will have a 3-4 healer configuration with 2 of them spamming Medica 2 and you'll have a party that can challenge any content with little gear requirements.

I agree with the OP. As a tank I can get hit by many avoidable attacks and still easily survive. It just sucks for everyone else , one mistake and your laying on the ground. Can't the game just put you down to 1 HP? Not everyone has top notch reflexes, I guess that automatically means they're a bad player to some.

Count me in as someone who wants easy mode, and I could care less what the elitist cry babies think about that.

I haven't noticed to many 1 shot attacks besides Titan's knockdown skill and garuda's big aoe Aerial blast. In the vigil's boss Isgebind's big 1/3rd of the arena ice blast in the air hurts a lot but I've never been killed by it as my drg, The boss in Dzesomethinsomethin darkhold's big straight line attack hurt a lot as well but no one died from the accidental hit either. I haven't gotten to endgame yet so I can't comment about that but on the journey to 50 and main storyline quests I haven't noticed anything too bad so far.

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Originally Posted by Godshelp

Unfortunately, it partially does mean that. But the more they practice, the better their reflexes get.

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Take it from this 45 year old, at some point your reflexes are what they are regardless of how much you practice. If SE wants a game for only people under 20 they should just say so.

I have an instant resurrect so I don't see the big deal. Had a Bard in the final story dungeon a little while ago that was having trouble getting out of the red highlighted areas for whatever reason and I was happy to rez him up each time no problem.

Most of these "one hit KO" attacks don't actually one shot unless you have awful gear. There are exceptions (Bombs, Final Sting) but they are easily stunnable/avoidable.

if you got bad lagg and stuck with trail 2 yeah its kind of stupid.
one miss step or one huge lagg spike and your probably on the bottom of the pit.
same problem with the lvl 32 dungeon.
one bad combo(from 2th boss) + lagg = dead.
happend to me 3 timesso far. first i get stunned then i get the 2 other AOE's in my face or just to slow to move and he fokus me and i get 2 aoe's in my face.
how i am suppose to deal with that
also the AOE's is 1 shot but get weaker(WTF is that normaly they get stronger) so in the end i dont need to move since it only take half my hp.
as for the lazer boss its ok even tough its hard for me with lagg i just need to run like a maniac when the lazers appers and hope i dont get hitt.

so for me thats far away from both Data centers doing bosses were you need to move fast kind of sucks specaly when you are the most importan member of the team(ofc i could have picked DPS but then 1 less healer)

I'm cool with one-shot mechanics that take consideration to dodge (e.g. Teratotaur) where you have plenty of time but have to prioritise and plan how you're going to deal with them. I'm not cool with twitch one-shot mechanics (e.g. Titan's Landslide) which annihilate people with more latency (yes, this is a problem, no, I can't get better internet, I live in NZ which is miles from anywhere). If you can't come up with a way to make these mechanics fair to the majority of players you really shouldn't put them in. Regularly getting hit when you're miles out of the AoE is not fun.