Don't skip cutscenes in Praeotorium if first time

Some members will say to first timers they should skip all cutscenes and view them in the inn. You can ONLY view the end dungeon scenes, and not the ones in between. It pisses me off that I had to replay the dungeon just to get the story. And it definitely feels different when you see them.

You can view the mid-dungeon scenes by clicking the dungeons tab from the list.

Honestly though, it is a completely different experience when you watch them after the fact. The CS are in-the-moment experiences that are coupled with the combat. They should be watched together for the first time. Word to the first timers: Ignore those people who try and force you through the best part of the story! Half of them watched them, too and now it's all about THEIR speed run! Enjoy your CS's they should not be missed!

-Chindi

Agreed if its your first time you should watch it and if I am farming? I will wait for those if its their first time in the dungeon.

It's pretty sad that some people get so upset. Also funny.

I let all people know in my CM groups that if someone wants to watch a cutscene they are more than welcome to. Saving an extra 3 minutes on Tomes isn't gonna make you any less shitty a DPS for HM Titan.

skip scene... pull anyway
#carryingScrubs

I don't care if they get upset, they can just leave if it bothers them.

It's your full right to watch them as they're supposed to (and this means during the duty), end of story.

If someone wants so badly to skip them, he can find 7 more people who want to skip and avoid using the DF. They have no rights to tell people they shouldn't enjoy the game as they want.

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Originally Posted by Fuz

It's your full right to watch them as they're supposed to (and this means during the duty), end of story.

If someone wants so badly to skip them, he can find 7 more people who want to skip and avoid using the DF. They have no rights to tell people they shouldn't enjoy the game as they want.

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And you have no right to tell the people speed running it they can't enjoy the game as they want either.

They can go on without the people that are enjoying cutscenes, if they want to.

seriously this whole thing of skipping cut-scenes is getting ridiculous. People need to stop being jerks. So what you lose a few minutes, here ill give you some advice so you never have to worry bout cut-sceners again. DONT use the friggin Duty Finder, make a pre-made speed run group. There i just saved you the trouble of dealing with cut-sceners. HAPPY HUNTING!!!

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Originally Posted by Rymia

And you have no right to tell the people speed running it they can't enjoy the game as they want either.

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If you can't get a group together for speed running in Mor Dhona in about 1/10th of a second you're a scrub who doesn't deserve the welfare gear from spamming CM anyway.

well said, i agree

Agreed in that if you're doing it for story, I wholly recommend letting the party know up front that "Here for story. I watch cutscenes."

Pre-fix on AK, a lot of players seemed to understand and wait.

Today, if a speed runner is serious about speed running, there are usually loads of people itching to do the speed run too in Mor Dhana, so filling up a party of 8 with the expectation to speed run would be more time efficient than rolling the dice with duty finder.

It's overall more difficult to find folks in the same place in the story as you are, so the reverse effort of finding first timers, cut scenes watchers, or tolerant of cut scenes may be tougher, longer, far less time efficient than the speed run crowd.

Hopefully, players won't express that "carrying with scrubs" attitude. Cause it comes off as "I'm an asshole" to some people.

I have been hesitant to do this dungeon because of this. I did CM for the first time yesterday and, luckily, the group didn't get mad for me watching the cutscenes, but they were moving on while I was watching them. I felt a little bit like a burden. I might wait for more people in my Free Company to hit 50 before doing Praetorium so we can do a story run. I really want to do it so I can get my GC weapon though.

I'm all for letting people watch the cut scenes if it's their first time, but I also wish there was an option to remove the cut scenes once you've done the dungeon for the first time. It's getting pretty tedious to having to skip cut scenes all the time.

If there's one person watching a cutscene I just tell the rest of the group to pull anyway when it's just a pack of trash ahead. I mean it's just trash. They aren't missing anything special and the rest get to keep moving.

skip the cutscene and watch it in your inn later or miss the dungeon when we kill everythign while you sit there watching the cutscene now, simple as that.

want to do it for the first time, watch the video's and not have overgeared players making everything a joke so you can truly experience the run, build a group whos not speedrunning for tomestones.

Agreed! I told them when I joined that I am not skipping cutscenes unless they felt redundant (which some were). It is a completely different experience than going back to an Inn.

Don't use DF as a speed run. Or don't complain about someone watching a CS.
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Don't join a non DF speed run and expect them to just sit idle while you watch a CS.

Respect goes both ways.

lol, i watched the scenes^^
they were by the boss, the door closing and then they ask: "where is the other whm?" xDD

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Originally Posted by Rymia

And you have no right to tell the people speed running it they can't enjoy the game as they want either.

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Of course peopla can enjoy the game the way they want, but if you want a speed run with everybody skipping cs, make a run with your friends, or maybe u don't have friends wouldn't surprise me with that attitude. It only upsets me when people don't say it is their first run and don't ask for info of what they should do on boss fights.

We had people watching cutscenes in praetorium and did all the fights while they were watching cutscenes, I think we skipped 6 cutscenes for them since we activated more while they were still in them.

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Originally Posted by Sapulha

Of course peopla can enjoy the game the way they want, but if you want a speed run with everybody skipping cs, make a run with your friends, or maybe u don't have friends wouldn't surprise me with that attitude. It only upsets me when people don't say it is their first run and don't ask for info of what they should do on boss fights.

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If you want to waste time in cutscenes make a run with your friends or pug for people who also want to waste 45 minutes watching them, or maybe you don't havve friends wouldn't surprise me with that attitude.

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Originally Posted by Rymia

And you have no right to tell the people speed running it they can't enjoy the game as they want either.

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Lol @ this...

"This game is not fun, there is no content"

"Skip all the content and farm, because reasons"

"I have farmed gear, and now there is no content"

SE releases new dungeons with new gear

"Skip content farm gear"

"I have gear, there is no content, game is not fun"


I love the loop people are getting into already. People skipping all the cutscenes, ignoring dialog, bum rushing the story (which is admittedly somewhat short so far). Then complaining that everyone else does not skip, and complaining that there is no content.

Slow down, watch a cutscene, read some dialog. Enjoy some combat. If you get 0 entertainment out of 'trash' mobs, why do you play? You know there will be more trash mobs no matter what content they add.



I understand some people may not have played FFXI. But seriously, Salvage, Dynamis, Nyzul Isle. All way worse grind fests when they were released.

Heck, how many Up in Arms BCNMS have we all done trying to get that stupid club?

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Originally Posted by Kazamoto

I love the loop people are getting into already.

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Agreed, except on the word "already"; this has been an issue for a long time. The worst part is when people who flew through the game represent themselves as the soul of the community on forums. They are not.

Everybody plays their own way. Everybody has their own kind of fun. Their kind seems rather limited and sad, though I'm sure that's only my opinion.

Back to the thread, though; if you're gonna group with 7 randoms, expect to respect 7 other people for a short duration. If you take your 3 friends in to speedrun and the other 5 people want to watch cutscenes, you aren't gonna badass it alone; so chill. If you berate people, you deserve to get reported for harassment.

I don't get why people need to rush through things. Should enjoy the game the way it was made. Asking someone to read the last page of a book then go back and read the rest later is ridiculous.