HM Ifrit Frustration

Sign here if you've killed him 80+ times and not even seen your weapon drop. Yes its a whaambulance thread, oh well.

I've seen the lance drop but lost the roll to another Dragoon.

I had the SCH codex drop 9 times in a row earlier today. None of those fights had a SCH. It should really only be dropping items for classes currently in the party.

Version 1.0, worst Loot-System ever, static group, 200+ kills (jep, i actually counted, but stopped after 200) wasn't after the 220th kill or so that i got my harpoon. Man, being able to actually ROLL on something is 100 times better than the stuff i have endured :D In Version 1.0 each player had the chance to get a weapon, but he could not choose which and he could not trade it if he had two (duplicates got thrown away), so while i was desperate for my weapon others had to throw them away multiple times.

Taste my pain!!!!!!!! xD

yea i got 4 other weapons before the harpoon, finally got it on like my 30th run...then days days later i kill garudra for the first time and get her lance.. :)

I think it's better to go "undergeared" to Garuda and Titan and get the Relic...

Stop whining and listen to my story.
Everytime I do ifrit there are at least two BLMs. The fourth time it was only me and I was like "please please drop" and it did. The end.

I just gave up after the 167th try, the last being to get the ember for my relic. Not worth the time. Get your ilvl 55 GC weapon and that will suffice.

Personally, I feel like there should only be a chance to drop a weapon for someone currently in the party. I do not think a 100% drop rate for any random class is a good Idea.

I got it on my 5th try, is that rare? I hear all these horror stories about people taking 60+ runs o.o

Well, your odds are 1/9.

Therefore, your odds of seeing the one particular drop you want is 100[1 - (8^x/9^x)], where x represents the number of runs. This result is given as a percentage.

Then it's a case of winning the thing...

Yes- I killed Ifrit (hard mode) over 15 times and didnt ever see weapon for monk- only for dragoon, paladin and bard. "Random" drop in this dungeon must be fixed

20 times- no monk weapon

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Yes- I killed Ifrit (hard mode) over 15 times and didnt ever see weapon for monk- only for dragoon, paladin and bard. "Random" drop in this dungeon must be fixed

20 times- no monk weapon

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Random loot is random.....it has been this way for every single mmo. Rng is what devs use to keep you paying, if you got all the loot you wanted within a few runs why would you want to run it again? You could get something the first time or even after 50 times, whatever keeps you playing(rng/gameplay/story) is what keeps you paying.

why would a person go farm ifrit 80x for a +1 damage increase from the GC weapon? when you could be spending that time wiping on titan and push a step closer to relic.

Can we just have all the primal hard mode to give out a token for every kill?
and the token can be redeemed for a primal weapon after u gathered for x amount of it.

e.g. 10 ifrit token for a ifrit weapon, 5 for garuda etc

at least this way we wont mind spamming it numerous of time and we know for sure that after that amount of time we will get the item :x

Always WHM and BLM never Bow :'(

Same with Garuda.


FML

66+ not seen the bow drop. everything else, .. however i have only seen the monk weapon drop 2 times. tons of swords, lances and caster stuff.

60+ Ifrit kills
a dozen garuda

Never seen a fucking lance drop.

That's a really stupid and outdated RNG system.

Please don't tokenize every instance in game /signed

I applaud the effort to get an entry lvl weapon but considering how easy it is to get a relic it might be worth going that rout.

Please tokenize every instance in game.

RNG is an old, outdated, unfair and frustrating system.

Beat ifrit seems like a million times... Haven't seen the lance once... I'm sure when I do I'll lose the roll to another dragoon!!!!

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTreats

Beat ifrit seems like a million times... Haven't seen the lance once... I'm sure when I do I'll lose the roll to another dragoon!!!!

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Heh. "RNG is RNG". It's true, but it doesn't change that the % drop chance on some of the items is extremely low. My average group is 2 dragoon/ 2 monk. Sometimes even get the 4 dragoon groups. We're piling up and soon we will be all the DD in queue.

Hell, I don't even care about the lance at this point I just want to see a noncaster weapon. Run this 2-6 times a night for two weeks and it's: grimoire, grimoire, grimoire, cane, grimoire, grimoire, grimoire, cane. I feel bad when I see tanks, bards, and monks in my group because I already have a 50% chance of guessing the drop and they're not gonna like it.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTreats

Beat ifrit seems like a million times... Haven't seen the lance once... I'm sure when I do I'll lose the roll to another dragoon!!!!

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Im sorry, friend, but I almost always see lance after defeating Ifrit. It seems, that drop settings is very strange... very very very strange

And I didnt see any weapon for monk at all

Got my bow after our 2nd kill... Guess I was just lucky.

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Im sorry, friend, but I almost always see lance after defeating Ifrit. It seems, that drop settings is very strange... very very very strange

And I didnt see any weapon for monk at all

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It's how the dice roll as to what drops, any group could get any piece multiple times in a row(even the monk wep) if rng decided so. You may see the lance everytime while another group sees something else everytime, there is no magical setting behind the scenes that forces certain weps to drop over others on these fights, there is exactly the same chance of one weapon drop as the next.

are we counting just ARR or ARR and 1.0? Cause if we are just counting ARR I am up to over 200, if we are also including 1.0 im a little over 1,500

I decided: Ifrit Hard Mode is no longer a part of content for me until developers fix drop settings. I will try to get weapon from Garuda or Titan, or maybe, I will make relic weapon faster

here is an idea, rather then spending countless hours in ifrit, get some of you darklight and kill titan and have relic. When I got my 1st kill we had 2dps with ifrit (each 1/2 darklight), 2dps with gc wep and mostly just AK gear, very geared tank (ifrit wep) and 2 great geared healers (whm w/ relic and sch with ifrit) and a 2nd whm with relic but mostly AK/AF and crap jewlery.

Titan isnt so much about dps as it is about staying alive, join a FC, get geared and get relic and have no RNG needed!

Same here, I've done this countless times, and yes I do mean countless, last I remember counting was 70 something and I've only seen SMN/SCH/WHM weapons drop. I'm honestly getting fed up of doing it.

Its gotten so bad that I don't want to ask my FC to help with me getting it because I know I'm just wasting their time.

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

I decided: Ifrit Hard Mode is no longer a part of content for me until developers fix drop settings. I will try to get weapon from Garuda or Titan, or maybe, I will make relic weapon faster

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And what happens when garuda or titan drop the same exact thing like ifrit did? There is nothing broken about drops that is how rng in every single mmo is, outside of every single mmo changing that formula(aka not wanting people to stay subbed) it will never change.