AntiAliasing please... Forced Settings Took forever to work through problems.

Instructions for Major Graphics Enhancement:
1. download SweetFX ARR Package here: http://ninjafada.com/ffxiv/ARR/p3/p3v9.rar
2. Extract to C:\Program Files (x86)\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\game
3. download sweet fx preset listed below (you can only use one of the presets listed below..in case your new to sweetfx)
Super Vibrant: http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/698/
Color Boost: http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/690/
4. Open the preset text file
5. Change SMAA to 0, and FXAA to 0, and Lumasharpen to 0
EDIT: Also change Bloom to 1 and HDR to 1 if it has not already been done
6. Save Preset Text File
7. Copy the newly saved Preset, Paste it here C:\Program Files (x86)\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\game
8. Overwrite the previous one.
9. FOR AMD CARDS ONLY Open Catalyst Control Center
10. Click gaming
11. Click 3D Application Settings
12. Adjust to my listed settings at the bottom of this post
13. Click apply.
14. Launch Final Fantasy...
15. configure your graphics settings to turn off HDR, Turn off FXAA.
16. Exit Final Fantasy
17. Re-launch Final Fantasy
18. Reap your profits.

(ALL POSSIBLE WITH NVIDIA AS WELL, WILL UPDATE INSTRUCTIONS WHEN I FIND OUT MORE ABOUT HOW TO ENABLE SUPER SAMPLING WITH A NVIDIA CARD WITHOUT CAUSING ARTIFICATS)

(CURRENTLY WORKING ON ENB PRESET TO INTRODUCE BETTER DOF AS WELL)

(WILL GET SCREENSHOTS SOON OF IN GAME GRAPHICS)


Hey SE, could you put some legit AA in your game by the DX11 release? It just took me a ridiculous amount of work to force it through without causing graphical issues.

First i used Sweetfx, but Sweetfx AA sucks about as bad as the games..., even with top quality SMAA and FXAA the game looked terrible.

I finally got an ENB i used to use for Skyrim working right, and WOW did it work. Really, it took so much to get it working, and it paid off. But when i got in game, i noticed that it still wasnt GREAT is was just OK.

So then i started trying to force through SuperSampling AA through my Gfx Card, and that worked AWESOME like seriously, AWESOME. But it messed up the GFX so bad and removed all magic animations from the game. Still, never seen a prettier game before, so i deicided to take this route from here on out.

And it took me 1-2 hours to get SuperSampling AA to work without artifacts (there was a simple resolution, but still)

So if you could, please include some good AA next time round ;)


Current Settings forced through GFX Card:

AntiAliasing:
AA mode - Enhance Application Settings
AA samples - Enhance Application Settings
Filter - Standard
Anti-Aliasing Method - Supersampling
Morphological Filtering - (ON fullscreen only)

Texture Filtering - Override application settings
Ansioscopic samples - 16x
Texture filter - High Quality
Surface Format Optimization - On

Frame Rate Control -
Wait for Vertical Sync - Always ON
OpenGL Tripple Buffering - ON

Tessalation
Tess - Override Application Settings
Maximum Tessalation - 64X

The game now looks amazing.


In Game Settings Change:

Turn off in game FXAA (like you would with SweetFX)

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Originally Posted by LessLoveLess8

Hey SE, could you put some legit AA in your game by the DX11 release? It just took me a ridiculous amount of work to force it through without causing graphical issues.

First i used Sweetfx, but Sweetfx AA sucks about as bad as the games..., even with top quality SMAA and FXAA the game looked terrible.

I finally got an ENB i used to use for Skyrim working right, and WOW did it work. Really, it took so much to get it working, and it paid off. But when i got in game, i noticed that it still wasnt GREAT is was just OK.

So then i started trying to force through SuperSampling AA through my Gfx Card, and that worked AWESOME like seriously, AWESOME. But it messed up the GFX so bad and removed all magic animations from the game. Still, never seen a prettier game before, so i deicided to take this route from here on out.

And it took me 1-2 hours to get SuperSampling AA to work without artifacts (there was a simple resolution, but still)

So if you could, please include some good AA next time round ;)


Current Settings forced through GFX Card:

AntiAliasing:
AA mode - Enhance Application Settings
AA samples - Enhance Application Settings
Filter - Standard
Anti-Aliasing Method - Supersampling
Morphological Filtering - (ON fullscreen only)

Texture Filtering - Override application settings
Ansioscopic samples - 16x
Texture filter - High Quality
Surface Format Optimization - On

Frame Rate Control -
Wait for Vertical Sync - Always ON
OpenGL Tripple Buffering - ON

Tessalation
Tess - Override Application Settings
Maximum Tessalation - 64X

The game now looks amazing.


In Game Settings Change:

Turn off in game FXAA (like you would with SweetFX)

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Just changed to Filter - Edge Detect. Major difference in quality.

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Originally Posted by LessLoveLess8

Just changed to Filter - Edge Detect. Major difference in quality.

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>.> well, Scratch, Standard does not produce any shimmering but Edge Detect does. But still, very big difference :) might keep edge might loose it. but still, plz fix AA

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Originally Posted by LessLoveLess8

>.> well, Scratch, Standard does not produce any shimmering but Edge Detect does. But still, very big difference :) might keep edge might loose it. but still, plz fix AA

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sweet FX Vibrancy helped alot with the slightly washed out color pallet, Keep FXAA and SMAA off in sweet FX and enable the graphics settings for supersampling and that will also boost the graphics.

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Originally Posted by LessLoveLess8

sweet FX Vibrancy helped alot with the slightly washed out color pallet, Keep FXAA and SMAA off in sweet FX and enable the graphics settings for supersampling and that will also boost the graphics.

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Edge Detect Super Sampling Causing Shimmering on HP and MP bars but not TP >.> interesting. Not too bad just noticed it. I would keep luma sharpen off, as i think that caused some extra shimmer throughout the game. HDR should be set through SweetFX not in game. SweetFX's HDR is superior

Also i am not sure if i mentioned...

The sweetFX i am currently using in conjunction with super Sampling is

http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/698/ <- this ARR Preset and Sweet FX 1.4 (http://ninjafada.com/ffxiv/ARR/p3/p3v9.rar) <-

the vibrancy does not change the colors as it states it does in those screenshots. Those are way overly done, and the AA takes some of the vibrancy away. however

Another good preset to use, color wise, anyway, would be

http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/690/ <- as it does not go crazy with vibrancy, only tunes it up a notch.

and again, make sure to set both SMAA and FXAA to 0 if you are to use super sampling AA

also noticing that the latter preset has much better bloom than in game.

So SweetFX for bloom and HDR and Vibrancy, Graphics Card Config for forced Super Sampling AA makes the sun come out on a rainy day ;)

man, by the way im going right now im not even going to need the dx11 client.. >.>

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Originally Posted by LessLoveLess8

Edge Detect Super Sampling Causing Shimmering on HP and MP bars but not TP >.> interesting. Not too bad just noticed it. I would keep luma sharpen off, as i think that caused some extra shimmer throughout the game. HDR should be set through SweetFX not in game. SweetFX's HDR is superior

Also i am not sure if i mentioned...

The sweetFX i am currently using in conjunction with super Sampling is

http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/698/ <- this ARR Preset and Sweet FX 1.4 (http://ninjafada.com/ffxiv/ARR/p3/p3v9.rar) <-

the vibrancy does not change the colors as it states it does in those screenshots. Those are way overly done, and the AA takes some of the vibrancy away. however

Another good preset to use, color wise, anyway, would be

http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/690/ <- as it does not go crazy with vibrancy, only tunes it up a notch.

and again, make sure to set both SMAA and FXAA to 0 if you are to use super sampling AA

also noticing that the latter preset has much better bloom than in game.

So SweetFX for bloom and HDR and Vibrancy, Graphics Card Config for forced Super Sampling AA makes the sun come out on a rainy day ;)

man, by the way im going right now im not even going to need the dx11 client.. >.>

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Adding instructions to the first post, this is the best graphics modification i have found so far, dont need to tweak it anymore to get it right. Wish all the other SweetFX presets didnt vanish and go missing >.< i would have liked to try some of the better ones out.

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Originally Posted by LessLoveLess8

Adding instructions to the first post, this is the best graphics modification i have found so far, dont need to tweak it anymore to get it right. Wish all the other SweetFX presets didnt vanish and go missing >.< i would have liked to try some of the better ones out.

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stupid me, i just try to log in so many times i got locked out for "several minutes" :( Stupid Capps Lock lol

Thank you for this post, I think the best thing to use is nvidia inspector for AA.
I've never gotten AA to work with the standard configuration screen from Nvidia with my 570 and 580 GTX.

Defiantly interested in giving it a go and see how it works out.

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Originally Posted by Sneakaboo

Thank you for this post, I think the best thing to use is nvidia inspector for AA.
I've never gotten AA to work with the standard configuration screen from Nvidia with my 570 and 580 GTX.

Defiantly interested in giving it a go and see how it works out.

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thanks for the thanks :) unfortunately ive been using AMDs version of the inspector for AA, im still working out how to pull this out without causing artifacts on nvidia, if the settings you use work out please let me know so i can update the OP

UPDATE: As far as i can tell SS AA through Nvidias inspector causes the bloom to vanish, well thats been stated elseware during alpha for the game. Not sure about now, Please still let me know what happens ;)

I don't get it, what's wrong with FFXIV antialiasing? It looks ok to me.

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Originally Posted by ZohnoReecho

I don't get it but what's wrong with FFXIV antialiasing? It looks ok to me.

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if i wasnt still locked out from trying to log in 5-6 times before realizing Capps Lock was on i would show you lol :(

anyways. The game does look amazing by itself, i agree. It just isnt up to par with what it should be IMHO. They use a very lazy (and somewhat outdated) form of AA right now. And i cant really explain further without being able to show you haha...

The difference in what i have set up currently is dramatic. And i plan to get screenshots up if SE EVER LETS ME LOG DA FRICK IN.

so the only way to know right now is to try out the instructions up top, if you have a system that can handle all that awesome combined into one game.

Ok. I'll wait for your screenshots. Those available on the 2 presets pages just look like oversaturated images xD

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Originally Posted by ZohnoReecho

Ok. I'll wait for your screenshots. Those available on the 2 presets pages just look like oversaturated images xD

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lol right? it sucks all the good presets vanished. I am modding the one i am using now and will upload it for access after its perfect :P

Anti-aliasing is difficult to explain. It's easier to show IRL to someone. Like most things its more significant in-motion than in static .jpg images.

For an example of the difference anti-aliasing can make on image quality, try lowering your in-game resolution to one half of what you normally play as. Then go back to the resolution you normally use. That's, in a nutshell, the difference between anti-aliasing and no anti-aliasing. Of course, like most things in life, anti-aliasing is subject to diminishing returns and while it may not be as significant a difference in overall appearance as halving your resolution it works on the same principle. Anti-aliasing works ((SSAA, the good kind) by rending the game's image in 2x, 4x, 8x, whatever your card can handle and then displaying it in your monitor's display size. It's generally also much more performance friendly than forcing your graphics card to actually run at that multiplied resolution and consider the fact that they don't make monitors which can support them anyway. SSAA gives you an image quality that is not otherwise possible to achieve.

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Originally Posted by LessLoveLess8

Instructions for Major Graphics Enhancement:
1. download SweetFX ARR Package here: http://ninjafada.com/ffxiv/ARR/p3/p3v9.rar
2. Extract to C:\Program Files (x86)\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\game
3. download sweet fx preset listed below (you can only use one of the presets listed below..in case your new to sweetfx)
Super Vibrant: http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/698/
Color Boost: http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/690/
4. Open the preset text file
5. Change SMAA to 0, and FXAA to 0, and Lumasharpen to 0
EDIT: Also change Bloom to 1 and HDR to 1 if it has not already been done
6. Save Preset Text File
7. Copy the newly saved Preset, Paste it here C:\Program Files (x86)\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\game
8. Overwrite the previous one.
9. FOR AMD CARDS ONLY Open Catalyst Control Center
10. Click gaming
11. Click 3D Application Settings
12. Adjust to my listed settings at the bottom of this post
13. Click apply.
14. Launch Final Fantasy...
15. configure your graphics settings to turn off HDR, Turn off FXAA.
16. Exit Final Fantasy
17. Re-launch Final Fantasy
18. Reap your profits.

(ALL POSSIBLE WITH NVIDIA AS WELL, WILL UPDATE INSTRUCTIONS WHEN I FIND OUT MORE ABOUT HOW TO ENABLE SUPER SAMPLING WITH A NVIDIA CARD WITHOUT CAUSING ARTIFICATS)

(CURRENTLY WORKING ON ENB PRESET TO INTRODUCE BETTER DOF AS WELL)

(WILL GET SCREENSHOTS SOON OF IN GAME GRAPHICS)


Hey SE, could you put some legit AA in your game by the DX11 release? It just took me a ridiculous amount of work to force it through without causing graphical issues.

First i used Sweetfx, but Sweetfx AA sucks about as bad as the games..., even with top quality SMAA and FXAA the game looked terrible.

I finally got an ENB i used to use for Skyrim working right, and WOW did it work. Really, it took so much to get it working, and it paid off. But when i got in game, i noticed that it still wasnt GREAT is was just OK.

So then i started trying to force through SuperSampling AA through my Gfx Card, and that worked AWESOME like seriously, AWESOME. But it messed up the GFX so bad and removed all magic animations from the game. Still, never seen a prettier game before, so i deicided to take this route from here on out.

And it took me 1-2 hours to get SuperSampling AA to work without artifacts (there was a simple resolution, but still)

So if you could, please include some good AA next time round ;)


Current Settings forced through GFX Card:

AntiAliasing:
AA mode - Enhance Application Settings
AA samples - Enhance Application Settings
Filter - Standard
Anti-Aliasing Method - Supersampling
Morphological Filtering - (ON fullscreen only)

Texture Filtering - Override application settings
Ansioscopic samples - 16x
Texture filter - High Quality
Surface Format Optimization - On

Frame Rate Control -
Wait for Vertical Sync - Always ON
OpenGL Tripple Buffering - ON

Tessalation
Tess - Override Application Settings
Maximum Tessalation - 64X

The game now looks amazing.


In Game Settings Change:

Turn off in game FXAA (like you would with SweetFX)

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1. The current in-game AA works fine. It does general edge detect and a bit of transparency AA for the flora/tree leaves. You needn't force anything at the driver level like back in Phase III.
2. FSAA and SSAA does not exist/work on the client - one of the complaints about the engine compared to 1.0. In your Sweet settings, you've disabled SMAA and FXAA - you've also done this in your control panel at the driver level. Where do you think your AA is coming from? It's coming from the Morphological filtering, which is giving you a full screen image blur.

As for Sweet FX in this case, it's only beneficial for post process sharpening. If you're after color grading or tone mapping, it can eat performance even for slight adjustments. You'd be better off making a color profile in your graphic's card panel and switch to that before running the game(s).

Lastly, you'll need to give screenshots regarding ENB. ENB series won't launch with because of the foreign .dll injection so people may be skeptical.

Why do you have OpenGL Tripple Buffering ON?

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Originally Posted by Mavlok

Why do you have OpenGL Tripple Buffering ON?

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I don't remember if AMD has it on by default but I'd suspect these days it is? Not many Open GL titles - it's a moot point in this case.

Yeh seriously this is lieterally the crispest game I have ever played, I am constantly blown away by the GFX.
I'm just using the ingame FXAA but im playing at 1440p so I suppose if your at 1080p it might not be so nice.

FXAA has nothing to do with crispness. In fact it's the opposite. FXAA blurs the edges to make it appear smooth.

AntiAliasing:
AA mode - Enhance Application Settings Does not work as the game ignores it
AA samples - Enhance Application Settings Does not work do to the fact the above does not work
Filter - Standard
Anti-Aliasing Method - Supersampling Does not work as the only thing that works is there software verison of fxaa edge sampling.
Morphological Filtering - (ON fullscreen only) Does work but your better off just using fxaa in game.

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Originally Posted by LessLoveLess8

Instructions for Major Graphics Enhancement:

Super Vibrant: http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/698/
Color Boost: http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/690/

SMAA to 0, and FXAA to 0, and Lumasharpen to 0
EDIT: Also change Bloom to 1 and HDR to 1 if it has not already been done


15. configure your graphics settings to turn off HDR, Turn off FXAA.

Hey SE, could you put some legit AA in your game by the DX11 release? It just took me a ridiculous amount of work to force it through without causing graphical issues.


Current Settings forced through GFX Card:

AntiAliasing:
AA mode - Enhance Application Settings
AA samples - Enhance Application Settings
Filter - Standard
Anti-Aliasing Method - Supersampling
Morphological Filtering - (ON fullscreen only)

Texture Filtering - Override application settings
Ansioscopic samples - 16x
Texture filter - High Quality
Surface Format Optimization - On

Frame Rate Control -
Wait for Vertical Sync - Always ON
OpenGL Tripple Buffering - ON

Tessalation
Tess - Override Application Settings
Maximum Tessalation - 64X



In Game Settings Change:

Turn off in game FXAA (like you would with SweetFX)

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setting Tessalation settings will not work as first off that's a dx11 feature not a dx 9 feature and has to be coded into the game... *it will ignore the setting*

Smaa and FXAA is ignored at the control panel level even with overrides do to the fact the ingame as i stated in my previous post is done in software not hardware... Hence why when you turn it on or off at the driver level and leave it off in game it has 0 change..

Like a previous poster said your seeing that effect through morphological AA which is just a fancy way of saying were going to AA the whole gpu frame-buffer.. Which all your text + gfx are AA

Before anyone gets bent out of shape... AMD already has a profile for Final Fantasy XIV, and you have to override it by specifically creating a profile for ffxiv.exe

BTW, my only beef, graphically, with this game is the transparency (eg stealth, seeing through tree leaves, etc) is done by removing every other pixel instead of opacity. This is likely a PS3 compromise than a PC one.

When I run through areas with lots of water (The level 44+ area does this) the frame rate noticeably drops. Then again I have a single AMD HD 7770.

to be honest the normal ffxiv arr looks better to me, the other is too colorful and looks horrible

Like previous persons said: If FXAA is disabled in-game and disabled in SweetFX = no AA whatsoever.

I got another question. Did anybody try enbseries instead? Its quite a bit more complex. You have a lot more possibilities to mess with. I'd try it, but i'm at work atm..