SE: Please add cooldown between shouts

SE please make it like you did in FFXI where if someone wanted to shout or yell across an entire zone there was a cooldown for it. RMT are killing shout chart every second with spamming. A 300 second cool down would suffice it is a 5 minute time where normal ppl can use shout if they need to , it also would prevent ppl from having conversations over shout which is equally as annoying as the RMT people.

stop making this same thread a dozen times a day SPAMMING the forum

Why does SE need to implement a cooldown? Are you incapble of blacklisting someone? Taking away shout removes general zone wide conversations that DO take place. The gil spammers are largely only conentrated in the cities and starter areas. Easy way to blacklist is to click the offendors name and pick the "send tell" option. Instead of tell command, replace with /blist Gilspammer (obviously the name would be the one your original command would send the tell to). You're done..no need for SE to waste time.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

And when they move OUT of the cites? what then?

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You blacklist them the same. It's actually easier to do as they aren't nearly as common.

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Except most of the time they are spamming so fast you cannot see the multiple names doing it. Not to mention this eliminates the issue of people using shout to hold conversations which have no purpose and should be done via tell

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Sorry to keep editing a post..but limited posts per day. This isn't that hard to overcome if you click their name to send them a tell. The command is placed in your text box. You merely replace the /tell (or whatever it is) with /blist. Enlarge your chat box to makes things even easier.

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Originally Posted by mythicrose

Why does SE need to implement a cooldown? Are you incapble of blacklisting someone? Taking away shout removes general zone wide conversations that DO take place. The gil spammers are largely only conentrated in the cities and starter areas. Easy way to blacklist is to click the offendors name and pick the "send tell" option. Instead of tell command, replace with /blist Gilspammer (obviously the name would be the one your original command would send the tell to). Your done..no need for SE to waste time.

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And when they move OUT of the cites? what then?

its ironic you cant spam the forums but you can spam in game. *snicker*

Some MMO players from other games have told me that some games have a level requirement to use the game's Shout feature in order to prevent people from merely making a fast account and then harassing people via shouts.

Perhaps maybe have level 10 be a requirement to use shouts? I'd say level 5 but that can be obtained ridiculously fast.. like within an hour.

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Originally Posted by mythicrose

Why does SE need to implement a cooldown? Are you incapble of blacklisting someone? Taking away shout removes general zone wide conversations that DO take place. The gil spammers are largely only conentrated in the cities and starter areas. Easy way to blacklist is to click the offendors name and pick the "send tell" option. Instead of tell command, replace with /blist Gilspammer (obviously the name would be the one your original command would send the tell to). You're done..no need for SE to waste time.

You blacklist them the same. It's actually easier to do as they aren't nearly as common.

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Except most of the time they are spamming so fast you cannot see the multiple names doing it. Not to mention this eliminates the issue of people using shout to hold conversations which have no purpose and should be done via tell

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Except most of the time they are spamming so fast you cannot see the multiple names doing it. Not to mention this eliminates the issue of people using shout to hold conversations which have no purpose and should be done via tell

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10 people should have a tell conversation with each other?

I'm not saying shouting is the most conducive way to have a discussion, but sending tells is hardly any better for large groups of unrelated people. There pretty much isn't a better method of talking to some people across the zone from you than shouting.


Putting that aside, I think everyone agrees that SE should probably try to figure something out with those RMT spammers. Quite horrifying, those.

They should take a more active, hands-on approach and just lockdown accounts as a whole that are suspected of RMT activities. Force them to constantly need to purchase new accounts (or try to hack other ones... which they do anyway). The further in the red they are, the harder it'll be to profit. It won't get rid of them, but it'll certainly make it harder for them to stick around. The earlier they strike, the better, as people don't REALLY need gil yet. It's easy enough to scrounge up gil for our everyday needs. Once new content is released, stuff that might end up needing marketable materials, that might be too late.

Hacked accounts that are used for RMT activities should still be recoverable, but upon repeated offenses (user did not change password, did not attach security token, etc), will be permanently locked. That sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Except most of the time they are spamming so fast you cannot see the multiple names doing it. Not to mention this eliminates the issue of people using shout to hold conversations which have no purpose and should be done via tell

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Tells or link shells.

A cooldown on shout seems interesting to me.

Gilspammer use dirty tricks to avoid getting easily blacklisted. If ever there was something useful in the chat window meanwhile, forget about finding it without again scanning through the spam they create.

For the "conversations" across the landscape using shouts... May I bring up the roleplaying concept of "immersion". Crystal clear conversations over long distance is really breaking immersion. A cooldown could represent your character actually catching their breath. The game is big sure, but there are quite a few zones which make sense to have conversations (the kind you actually see the character you are talking to) and meeting places. Normally, when I'm talking to someone, I enjoy seeing said person.

Another annoying factor about these conversations is their content. It really quickly gets out of hand, which really hamper useful information (like request for life, request for party, valid questions/answers). May I also bring up the level of maturity of these "conversations".

Finally, a cooldown will encourage people to think before writing and significantly decrease SPAM (not only gil sellers produce SPAM). At the very least, there will be a 5 minutes gap between the SPAM of a single player.

My opinion,
Lloyd Shade

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Originally Posted by LloydShade

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Nicely put Lloyd, you explained this a bit more eloquently then i did. For those roleplayers they can use say since they should be in a fixed small area. I think the 300 second cooldown may be a bit extreme but a cooldown of sorts would alleviate the massive amounts of spam we currently have.

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Nicely put Lloyd, you explained this a bit more eloquently then i did. For those roleplayers they can use say since they should be in a fixed small area. I think the 300 second cooldown may be a bit extreme but a cooldown of sorts would alleviate the massive amounts of spam we currently have.

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If nothing else, it would certainly make it easier to right-click on the RMT names.

I doubt that a mere cooldown would actually stop the spam, though.

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Originally Posted by Tari-F

If nothing else, it would certainly make it easier to right-click on the RMT names.

I doubt that a mere cooldown would actually stop the spam, though.

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It would in regards to it would not be back to back constantly like it is now, it would give us time to get the names blist and report tho so we would not see it again.

A shout cooldown could be needed to alleviate shout log spam period. It won't really solve the rmt problem and blacklist won't either because there is a limit to how many people you can blacklist.

I think the best solution is just to provide more filters, that function just like the profanity filter does.
Here are some possible filters:

Shout spam limiter timer:
From same person- 5min, 10min, 30min, permanent, off
Global shout- 5min, 10min, 30min, permanent, off

Tell spam limiter timer:
Tell from same person- 5min, 10min, 30min, permanent, off
Tells from anyone- 5min, 10min, 30min, permanent, off

Personal word filter: Any word you type in this box, you can't see tells or shouts from players who use those words.
Examples you could type- buy gold, power level, PL, specific websites, etc.

If there's going to be a cooldown, it should be something that's based on number of posts in a certain time frame. And a rate no human player having even the biggest gossip fest could possibly crank out. The idea would be to slow the bots so they're easier to block WITHOUT meddling with the players.