Idea for second THM job: Taoist

The idea for this is balancing Light and Dark, or Yin and Yang. Fire would become Yin/dark and Blizzard would become Yang/light, Thunder would become Twilight.

The rotation would stay the same except for whatever Job abilities it gets, I'm thinking at least one would be Chi Blast. Also it would cross-class from as well as ACN instead of BRD, for Chakra, Mantra and Internal Release.

Worst idea possible.

if the rotation stayed the same it wouldn't be a new job, it'd just be confusing...

W--why would you make fire dark and ice light when fire is astral and ice is umbral, and they have been since 1.0 launched?

Shouldn't this rather have been posted in the Feedback & Suggestion Forum?.?

And I need to agree, that with the same rotation, it would just be the same job with different looking abilities~

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Originally Posted by Aeidis

The idea for this is balancing Light and Dark, or Yin and Yang. Fire would become Yin/dark and Blizzard would become Yang/light, Thunder would become Twilight.

The rotation would stay the same except for whatever Job abilities it gets, I'm thinking at least one would be Chi Blast. Also it would cross-class from as well as ACN instead of BRD, for Chakra, Mantra and Internal Release.

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Balancing of light and dark was thm's first idea. They changed it off of it. While it's an interesting thought. Jobs are always a traditionally named Job from FF history. I dont' think I've ever even heard of "Taoist"

ALSO. SE explicity stated that the reason classes will even receive another job all together, is to fill a different party role. Blm is straight dmg. This would me it's mirror job would not be. I believe it would be an off support like brd. DDing until a certain kind of support is needed.

Edit: Some given examples for you is pretty easy. "Dark Knight" coming off of gladiator as a DPS job. Some other unnamed job coming off of pugilist that specializes on tanking. "Sage" For conjurer to toggle for DPS.

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Originally Posted by Chiraisu

Balancing of light and dark was thm's first idea. They changed it off of it. While it's an interesting thought. Jobs are always a traditionally named Job from FF history. I dont' think I've ever even heard of "Taoist"

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Yes and no. Famitsu's guide book/mook on FF Tactics translated Rafa and Malak's jobs to read as Taoist.

That being said, Mystic/Oracle would be a very plausible job for THM, considering that Mystc/Oracle is also known as Ying-Yang Mage. >.>

Lore wise there is nothing light about thamaturgy or black magic They are using the dark arts that is connected with the void itself. The very void where all the demons live.

Dark knight is most likely going to require thamaturge at level 15 considering the lore of this game the dark knight is going to be connected to the void like the black mage.

Plus in final fantasy XI they used black magic and great weapons. Plus yoshi said he could not see the dark knight wielding anything but a great weapon. So I think it will require marauder, since they used great axes, two handed swords and scythes in XI.

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Originally Posted by shinros

Lore wise there is nothing light about thamaturgy or black magic They are using the dark arts that is connected with the void itself. The very void where all the demons live.

Dark knight is most likely going to require thamaturge at level 15 considering the lore of this game the dark knight is going to be connected to the void like the black mage.

Plus in final fantasy XI they used black magic and great weapons. Plus yoshi said he could not see the dark knight wielding anything but a great weapon. So I think it will require marauder, since they used great axes, two handed swords and scythes in XI.

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Dark knights have only [exclusively] used two handed weapons in two games. FFX-2, and FFXI. In almost every other FF game they are generally depicted as having a one handed sword. And honestly, how do you cast magic when both hands are using your weapon?

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Originally Posted by Chiraisu

Dark knights have only [exclusively] used two handed weapons in two games. FFX-2, and FFXI. In almost every other FF game they are generally depicted as having a one handed sword. And honestly, how do you cast magic when both hands are using your weapon?

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Hey I am just saying what yoshi said he said if they were added to the game he could not see them using anything but a great weapon. Plus paladin's use cure and raise with both hands full so its not that big of a deal. Lancer casting protect with both hands full.

Plus the reason why that I said most likely dark knight will require thamaturgy/black magic at level 15 because most likely LORE wise dark knights will be connected to the void to get their power and Thamaturgy is connected to the void.

The only spell school which is connected to the void is thamaturgy/black magic plus as I said its a dark art its like how paladin requires conjurer.

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Originally Posted by Chiraisu

Dark knights have only [exclusively] used two handed weapons in two games. FFX-2, and FFXI. In almost every other FF game they are generally depicted as having a one handed sword. And honestly, how do you cast magic when both hands are using your weapon?

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Obviously, the weapon floats in midair while you weave your dark magic. :)

Curious how many this joke will amuse.

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Originally Posted by Chiraisu

Blm is straight dmg.

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What? XD Did you just read the name black mage and made that assumption? Or does BLM get some damage dealing spells that i am not aware of? The only thing making BLM do more damage than THM is the extra Int it gives inherently and from gear.

on topic though it sounds like a reskinned thm.

Well with Arcanist, you have Summoner (damage) and Scholar (support) as Jobs. For Thaumaturge I would think it more likely to see Black Mage (damage) and Time Mage (support). Remember that any new job that stems from THM can't use a different weapon than THM due to the Armoury system.

I think I'd like the Thaum to turn into a tank somehow as the second job since Arcanist does support/dps thaum can go tank/dps

Magicked armor and crazyness. Have Gladiator as the req sub-class (the shield connection) or arcanist ormaruader as the second one

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Originally Posted by Rbstr

I think I'd like the Thaum to turn into a tank somehow as the second job since Arcanist does support/dps thaum can go tank/dps

Magicked armor and crazyness. Have Gladiator as the req sub-class (the shield connection) or arcanist ormaruader as the second one

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As I said before if you examine lore of this game most likely dark knight will require thaumaturge at 15 along with a physical class. I think marauder considering yoshi's comment about what weapon he would see them using.

I would actually like to see THM gaining a Necromancer job, there is a nice piece of lore if you speak with professor Erik, form the MNK quests, about Sil'dih, an old city, which used dark arts to raise the dead as soldiers against Ul'dah before it all went terribly wrong.
Those zombie mobs and ruins we can find around Ul'dah are from Sil'dih.

Necromancers are often enemies in FF games however they are playable in the FFV ports so they really aren't something out of place, plus they alreayd have nice lore backing them up in XIV.

How would they work? No idea, maybe something about less burst damage compared to BLM but with temporary undead pets?

Well we can't really have a necromancer since summoner plays like a necromancer/warlock.

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Originally Posted by shinros

Well we can't really have a necromancer since summoner plays like a necromancer/warlock.

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Yeah, it would need an entire new playstyle but i guess that's up to SE to surprise us.

I have an idea how about a voidsent pet class? I mean black magic and thamaturgy is connected to the void + its dark arts we could have a burst pet class. The pet could be a piece of essence of diabolos since most likely he will be a voidsent instead of a primal. Since in other final fantasies he is a demon or the devil. Lets not forget where do all the demons live in this game? The void. Plus in 1.0 people in the lore forum said that black mage/thamaturge had some enfeeble/dark magic one example is called scourge.

Diabolos can be a debuff/dps pet debuffing the enemy so they take more damage from your elemental attacks or something I dunno its just an idea.