Inventory Management - Hell Edition

That is my new name for this game. This isn't going to be a long thread at all but I am a little bit surprised there aren't more threads out there like this. This game gives you a decent inventory space and some decent retainer spaces, but, After getting a few DoL and DoH to 10-16 range, I have no room for anything. My two retainers are filled with low level crafting supplies that I am not willing to sell until I KNOW I never need them again, some gear for aesthetics for the day that that matters (just a few pieces), and a ton of varied materia types. This is one of those games where they throw in 20 different versions of each rank of material and that would be fine... if I could hold it all.

I'm slightly OCD and I need a better way to manage my inventories. Oh, and a sort option or some addon for sorting would be great. And not the crappy auto-sort option that doesn't do a whole lot.

Edit: I just sorted my inventories so that one retainer is specifically for mats and the other for other stuff. The mat retainer held everything... except 1 HQ rubber!!!!! I'M LOSING MY MIND! lol

Edit v2.0: Square Enix... for the love of god... FIX THIS POST COUNT CRAP! Nobody will probably read this that has already read this page but I'm limited so here is my shortened response from my previous attempt at posting this.

Each craft has about 5 items for each level range. Multiply that by 2 for HQ items. Then take into account that you need to raise all crafts at the same time because they are all dependent on each other. Selling any mat nets you about 1 gil at a vendor or a loss at the MB and I will probably need it again later and I probably wont' be able to afford it then and I will not farm for mats that I already had. The retainers also feel bad... like why do I need to hear them greet me? They are literally just pack mules... I don't want them to waste my time with messages that I can't hit ESC to clear. It is a small thing but my armoury chest is full of crafting gear all of the time because I don't want to access the retainer inventory to get out the [crafting item] to craft 1 [mat] to continue with my current goal. I know this was the worst paragraph of all time but I really didn't want to re-write what I had already written. Blame stringent forum rules.

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Originally Posted by ArcheDragon

My two retainers are filled with low level crafting supplies that I am not willing to sell until I KNOW I never need them again, some gear for aesthetics for the day that that matters (just a few pieces), and a ton of varied materia types. This is one of those games where they throw in 20 different versions of each rank of material and that would be fine... if I could hold it all.
I'm slightly OCD and I need a better way to manage my inventories. The mat retainer held everything... except 1 HQ rubber!!!!! I'M LOSING MY MIND! lol

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Not to be a jerk but, this is very much a YOU problem. stop hording, set some goals. If a Mat doesn't help your long term goal sell it. A retainer has seven 25 item pages.
use one page per crafting job. if it doesn't fit your goal for that job. sell it. You could even have one retainer for short and the other for long term goals.

The inventory management in this game is much like other MMOs. Quickly filled with useless items, materials and stuff. As mentioned by Haibel, use the retainer. It functions as both bank and well, retainer. How correct my statement is.. I dunno.

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Originally Posted by Haibel

stop hording, set some goals. If a Mat doesn't help your long term goal sell it. A retainer has seven 25 item pages.
use one page per crafting job. if it doesn't fit your goal for that job. sell it. You could even have one retainer for short and the other for long term goals.

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Actually I agree the inventory is too small. You can't just sell stuff. Both my retainers are selling 20 items each all the time and I have a huge backlog of stuff to sell. You can't just sell to NPCs because they gyp you, buying at ridiculously low prices. They buy a 1000 gil item for 1 gil! LOL

You have to be Miner, Gatherer, Fisher, Goldsmith, Leatherworker, etc. just to support a Weaver!

There is not enough inventory to keep your Weaver supplied with raw materials.

Let alone the problems keeping track of your gear for 20 jobs. (Need slotted gear marked so you don't remove it from the Armoury.)

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Originally Posted by hrdndv

Actually I agree the inventory is too small. You can't just sell stuff. Both my retainers are selling 20 items each all the time and I have a huge backlog of stuff to sell. You can't just sell to NPCs because they gyp you, buying at ridiculously low prices. They buy a 1000 gil item for 1 gil! LOL

You have to be Miner, Gatherer, Fisher, Goldsmith, Leatherworker, etc. just to support a Weaver!

There is not enough inventory to keep your Weaver supplied with raw materials.

Let alone the problems keeping track of your gear for 20 jobs. (Need slotted gear marked so you don't remove it from the Armoury.)

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sell your stuff and then buy when you need it from AH. Any deflation doomsayer will tell you that everything is too cheap on the market wards.

I'd kill for just a sorting function in the armory chest. When I'm doing seal turnins or feel like blowing 30mins to an hour crafting the constant shifting from one class to the next makes the chest a damn nightmare.

Because my weaver is higher than my main class I have gathering/crafting sets all the way to 20...but every time I hit the next levels in my other jobs I'm forced to go through each and every tab to figure out where the hell that level 10 chest went or even if I have an upgrade for that particular level.

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Originally Posted by Sajittarius

sell your stuff and then buy when you need it from AH. Any deflation doomsayer will tell you that everything is too cheap on the market wards.

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Erm...apparently the specific statement "both my retainers are selling 20 items each all the time and I have a huge backlog of stuff to sell" wasn't clear enough...?

Not to forgett that you only have half the inventory spaces as a DOL since you need two spaces for every material, normal- and high- quality.

Couldn't we just have a Crafting Chest for Mats ?

I'm doing just fine with inventory management. You have to use both retainers and sort everything as it goes into storage. I sort things by type. I keep all my crafting materials obtained through combat on two pages and even keep different skins/hides grouped together. I have 2 pages for materials I mined with ore in one place and everything else separate. I use three pages for botany - one for wood and two for foods. My other retainer holds onto intermediate crafted goods like leather and ingots, materia, and gear I'm not currently using.

My only problem, as someone else said, is the armory chest. A simple "sort by level" function would vastly improve the functionality for me. The constant switching between classes makes the whole thing one big jumble that's impossible to keep sorted properly on your own.

I agree with this that the inventory management can be in issue with the game.

My Wishlist:

Ability to open up multiple tabs so I can move stuff easily within my own inventory. The option to show ALL 4 tabs would be nice.
Sort option to quickly arrange items by type. Crafting items, potions, food etc.

Its nothing too complicated (I would think), and its not asking for a lot either.

Sort function is coming with 2.1
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...r-das-Inventar

Dunno why there is no english translation already

very short translation:

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1. Stack size (from high to low and vice versa)
2. HQ / NQ
3. Equipment with or without materials (equipment only)
4. Spirit Bound (Only equipment, from high to low and vice versa)
5. Standard order by name of the object
6. Level of the item (only item, from high to low and vice versa)
7. Level of the equipment (only equipment, from high to low and vice versa)
8. Category of items (from high to low and vice versa)
9 Fill the empty spaces or separating the tabs of the inventory by category

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It is for inventar, retainers and armory chest.
And there is also planned text commandos for advanced sort options.

I agree and have actually made a few posts about this in that quality of life thread that was going on. I would personally love to see a system for crafting materials the same as an indy game i played called eden eternal.

The method was so simple, everytime you picked up an item it would automatically be sent to an inventory list with all the items in the game and how many of each you had. This would allow of easy filtering, for example you select weaver and it would show you all the materials related to weaving. This would save us spending hours sorting and shifting through materials on our retainers. Everything we need would always be available and neatly sorted. It would also keep our bags clean for usable items such as food and potions.

I know it's probably wishful thinking but it really does simplify the whole inventory management issue.

I think the armor chest slots should have a slot memory, so when we do switch classes around we can still keep our bags organized.

Improved sorting is the thing I am actually looking forward to most in 2.1. That's how bad it is currently.

We really do need an improved inventory GUI. Cannot open all bags/slots/spaces at once like in other games, making sorting a nightmare. Same issue with retainers. The lack of an auto-sort or auto-stack button/function is also a noticeable issue. This is a horror of Lovecraftian proportions on a 1.0 character. I don't even know how I'm going to sort through everything I have. It really is a travesty.

I feel your pain. I have all crafts at 40 or above and I too am OCD and hoard everything.

Here is how I manage things so far:

One retainer is for extra gear and HQ mats. He is currently holding the U/U stuff that I don't need right now and some GC gear that I'm not yet high enough level to use, and all of my weaving mats, NQ and HQ. I have organized my mats by type, I have wood first, sticks and logs and lumber, then skins and sinew, then ores and ingots, gemstones, then alchemy stuff, which is really varied in content and I'm debating on trashing the lot of it since I hate alchemy. But anyway.

Other retainer has all my NQ mats only. All organized in the same order. This helps me easily locate stuff when I need to stack/sort.

Now, here's what you need to do in order to reduce the inventory.

Weaver: Turn all basic mats into thread. Don't keep cloth around, make only what you need for each recipe using the thread you keep on hand. This way, you end up with a stack or more of each thread, less space, more useful stuff.

Carpenter: Turn all logs into lumber. If you end up with extras, either keep them on yourself to stack with whatever new you get, or if you have a stack of that lumber already, trash them. You rarely need to keep more than a stack on hand.

Leatherworker: Same pattern, turn all your skins into leather, keep a stack, trash the rest. If your crafts are high enough level, you can even start making just HQ leathers from the low level mats.

Blacksmith/Armorer: Turn all that ore into ingots, keep a stack of each, extra ores can either be kept to make additional stacks, or trashed. Try not to make more than what you need per recipe for sheets/rivets etc. It's just not worth it to keep those around when you can easily whip one up for a specific recipe from your ingots.

Goldsmith: Either keep raw gemstones raw, or turn them all into gems, ores into ingots.

Alchemy sucks, I haven't figured out how to handle alchemy inventory, and again, I'm considering just using the mats I have to make crap I don't need for the xp, or just trashing the whole thing. I really can't overstate how much I hate this craft, but my OCD requires that I level it like the rest since they're all interdependent at some point.

If your problems are gear related, again, I have a very OCD solution for that. Level all of your DoW/DoM classes evenly, using the same gear for each and upgrading appropriately.

Hope this helps, rather than hurts ^^