after reading many threads of crafters telling battlers they rushed, do something they don't enjoy to do what they do, that fates give broken exp,and that they are broke for whatever reason i suggest removing the bonus to exp and gil for turning in HQ items on levees.
at lvl 15 a crafter can, after repairs and mat cost make a net profit of 99 gil, and 22916 exp per turn in (includes exp from hq combines). you can get the same results turning in that same levee at lvl 20. with it so easy to not only sustain gear but also make a profit, i feel crafters have little way to understand battlers complaints of long term sustainability doing what they like
so SE, in the name of community unity and understanding please remove this bonus so we can all share the same problems.
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09-12-2013, 02:21 PMparadragoonan idea to promoteunity and understanding between crafters and battlers
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09-12-2013, 02:38 PMparadragoon
really? no one thinks that this would help the two groups come from a common place of understanding?
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09-12-2013, 02:40 PMZyeriisNo. This is an awful idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by paradragoon
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09-12-2013, 02:43 PMEloc
i dont think spreading misery is the option we need to make the game a better place for both DOW and DOH\L
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09-12-2013, 02:44 PMparadragoonhow so? it creates a lvel playing field in both exp and gil generation. after all just like those with 50 battle classes at this point should have leveled slower and enjoyed the journey, should the crafters not also be doing the same on their journey to end game crafting??Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyeriis
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09-12-2013, 02:46 PMparadragoonbut since the game is ment to be enjoyed slowly, and grinding fates is supposedly bad, should not the ability to level a crafting class in one day also be removed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eloc
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09-12-2013, 02:48 PMZyeriisWho's leveling crafting classes in one day without losing heaps of gil and crystals/shards? The market doesn't move that fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by paradragoon
Edit: This is my last post here, there's nothing more to be said than this is an awful idea. No reason to spread misery further. -
09-12-2013, 02:51 PMVantwan
The only thing that this would do is to double the number of complaints to SE and make the forums even more of a shithole than it already is.
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09-12-2013, 02:51 PMparadragooni would have had it not been for maint, i went from 15 to 25 in 2 hrs, with a positive gain in both gil and shards from levee rewards. i still have 72 levees remaining as of this post, 78 when servers are back up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyeriis
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09-12-2013, 02:55 PMparadragoonoh, so what you're saying is if this was removed, then crafters and battlers both would have a reason to complain because then it would be seen as an equal problem in the gil/ leveling department?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vantwan
does'nt that therefore mean that under the current system one style of play is rewarded over others, is'nt that considered bad game design by alot of folks? -
09-12-2013, 03:08 PMVanidinNo it really doesn't create an even playing field. All it means is that DoW's and DoM's will level even easier than crafters comparatively. You forget that crafters don't have fates. Sure crafters get great xp from leve's but that also involves time invested in gathering the right resources for those results, and if you buy them off the market then instead you have to raise the gil. It's a matter of opportunity cost, yeah I can grind out a crafter level in 30 minutes of crafting with leves, but I spent hours gathering resources or earning the money to buy the resources needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by paradragoon
Sure it's profitable at the low levels due to the lower shard and material costs, but you'll find yourself losing money at the higher levels unless you farm all your materials. Again, its a matter of opportunity cost... the cost is perceived differently but there is still a cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by paradragoon
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09-12-2013, 03:10 PMatomicdeathwho enjoys grinding slowly?Quote:
Originally Posted by paradragoon