Just had a tank join a dungeon with me...

Before anyone moved he asked how long the DPS had waited. They replied 30-35 minutes. Tank says "that's not nearly long enough." and goes AFK for 10 minutes before coming back and saying "I'm going to reset your queue for you. The best part is the 15 minutes ban from duty finder STILL gets me another dungeon before you clowns."

And then he left the group.

Good times.

Wow... -.- *speechless*

Wow, for lack of a better word, that was a dick move. I'm kind of glad I only group with my Linkshell mates if this is what I have to put up with going solo que in duty finder.

Wow...I don't even know what to say to that. Sorry you had to deal with that asshole. Hopefully he'll be gone with all the other trash after subs kick in.

I'm pretty sure you could report that. Intentional grief/harassment with evidence to show it.

That's class.

Screenshot and report, get these guys out of our game.

Report him. I would of left to be honest, even if my new queue would mean an additional 25-35 minute wait. At least I can do things outside of the dungeon in the meantime.

Sucks to hear about your experience, though. :(

Where do these douche players keep coming from!? Seriously!

Cross server blist man, for just in case, that's what I want, in the off chance, the minuscule tiny chance I ever see there ugly face again somehow, I don't want to!

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Originally Posted by Crushbone-Hammerfist

Before anyone moved he asked how long the DPS had waited. They replied 30-35 minutes. Tank says "that's not nearly long enough." and goes AFK for 10 minutes before coming back and saying "I'm going to reset your queue for you. The best part is the 15 minutes ban from duty finder STILL gets me another dungeon before you clowns."

And then he left the group.

Good times.

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what was this tanks name? i would love to meet up with him in a dungeon and never heal him.

I will continue with the current trend.

Wow.

That was totally uncalled for. I'm very glad I have about 6-7 real life friends that all play on the same server as me. If I had to deal with that with any type of regularity, I think I would avoid dungeons for the better part of my play time until required by story. I agree with the general consensus, this should be reported. Hopefully something like that doesn't happen to you again, but if it does I would suggest doing everything you can to have proof and report. Get that guy's toon banned.

If you got a screenshot, then report him for griefing. It's a legitimate issue.

Is there a forum rule for public shaming? Because i would love to automatically blacklist that tool

Geez. People really do suck. I don't understand what people get by wasting other peoples time. I really hope the loser gets banned.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

Cross server blist man, for just in case, that's what I want, in the off chance, the minuscule tiny chance I ever see there ugly face again somehow, I don't want to!

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Has nobody seriously started a site for this yet? Because there needs to be one.

Seriously, what is wrong with people?

This is the #1 Worst DF experience I've heard.

Congratulations on the NA community for staying ahead on the community race to the bottom.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

This is the #1 Worst DF experience I've heard.

Congratulations on the NA community for staying ahead on the community race to the bottom.

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Why is it every time someone in this community does something disgusting like the OP mentioned, blanketed statements like this must be made towards the NA community? 1. This game is on a free trial period 2. one person does not represent thousands of people. 3. This game became insanely popular the moment the betas started, so it's natural you would get people like the OP mentioned. 4. How do you know the nationality of the offender?

NA community refers to the community on the NA servers, not a nationality.

EDIT: And 1. How long are you going to set there and pretend this is not a problem? And 2...

Wait that's it actually.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

NA community refers to the community on the NA servers, not a nationality.

EDIT: And 1. How long are you going to set there and pretend this is not a problem? And 2...

Wait that's it actually.

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I'm not pretending it's not a problem but I'm also not going to say the community as a whole is horrible because of a select few. I've met plenty of good people in this community via DF and I believe emphasizing only on the trolls in the community helps no one.

The way i look at these scenarios is that you will get a far more enjoyment out of this game than some random troll trying to get his 5 minute "buzz".

Stay positive and remember there are far more good and friendly players than there are ones like those you encountered :)

I just had a wonderful experience in the Titan HM fight. DF Queue popped, I entered as my BLM. Everyone got in and skipped the CS. One of the tank asks if anyone was new. The other tank apologized and said it was her first time. The Dick of a Tank called her a burden, that she was ging to get us all killed in there, and that it was going to be a waste of time. He then rushed in, pulled Titan, and half were dead before the second jump. Needless to say we wiped. When everything loaded up again, He yelled at the other tank and told her to save everyone the trouble and never use the DF to queue for her first time in something. He then stormed out and the party dissolved. Nice to know some people in the community are so helpful to people new to content :/

I wish the OP had taken a screen shot of the chat log and posted it along with the story. Then every time this douche popped into a duty, people would just give him the same treatment.

Oh, my. I just don't even know what to say to that, friend.

At its heart, it is cowardice. People that do douche-bag things over the internet would not dream of cutting in front of you in the grocery lane or probably even look you directly in the eye. Truth is they were probably picked on as kids (which in some cases means currently being beat up). So these cowards do shit things over the internet safely from behind their keyboard rather than grow up, get over their trauma, face life head-on and act like men (just men, no girls in mmos as you all know). Sad.

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Originally Posted by n1MB1s

Where do these douche players keep coming from!? Seriously!

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World of Warcraft. I wish they'd leave that game, too.

On topic, wow, just... wow. I wish I knew this bugger's name so that I could blacklist them. But it's a good thing that, as it's turning that I will be going Warrior instead of Dragoon first, that I will be tanking solely with friends and LS/FC-mates (though they are, essentially, friends too).

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World of Warcraft. I wish they'd leave that game, too.

On topic, wow, just... wow. I wish I knew this bugger's name so that I could blacklist them. But it's a good thing that, as it's turning that I will be going Warrior instead of Dragoon first, that I will be tanking solely with friends and LS/FC-mates (though they are, essentially, friends too).

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Actually, you don't really see this particular behavior in WoW. You encounter a lot of stupid people, no doubt about that, but it's not much different than you would find anywhere else.

Sorry about that, OP. I had jager that night.

Kidding. Kidding! I was totally sober.

Seriously, though, the tank the OP talks about and the one mentioned later in this thread make me very depressed. They're dipshit scumbuckets and I hate that they're only reinforcing an image that seems to be building more and more about us tanks. Not all of us are assholes, I promise.

I have been hearing more about bad or raging healers lately on my server. Some will even charge a fee before they will res a person, or at least they try and then whine about it in chat when they refuse.

My biggest problem is with other tanks. I haven't had (m)any complaints from heal/dps. "Stop fighting me for enmity!" (even when I'm not). In the Praetorium, the second tank is there in case the other one dies, it makes things boring. "I'm a Roegadyn, I have more HP than you, that makes me the main tank!" Ok, sorry but, didn't I just hold hate over you on that boss 95% of the time? I get the logic that hp> means they have a less chance of dying but...that doesn't make them a better tank by default nor does it entitle them to be the only one who gets to enjoy themself. I mention Praetorium because there's nothing to do as second tank. None of the bosses, even the 2 that have adds require 2 tanks.

It makes more sense from a survival POV to bounce hate between the 2. Sure, that makes positioning for dps difficult but I said "survival POV". 2 hp bars > 1. "Mages will have a hard time targetting then!" I doubt this but even so, there's 2 of them and they have to heal everyone anyway.

I went on a slightly irrelevant rant, sorry. I find being a second tank boring as hell. There's no reason for the attitude that because they have a higher base hp means they get to enjoy the game more. There is no reason we can't alternate. If I die because I have less hp, so what? That's why there's two tanks.

(Stupid character limit)

Honestly you are all to blame for that just as much, that guy is just the product of the constant bitching and whining of the DPS who expect every tank to be god mode and know every speed run route, i feel like doing that to most players i group with but fortunatley for those people i have a bit more constraint

Can you remember this guys name? this is certainly someone i would like to avoid, i know people are douches in this game but this guy is on a another level.

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Originally Posted by Crushbone-Hammerfist

Before anyone moved he asked how long the DPS had waited. They replied 30-35 minutes. Tank says "that's not nearly long enough." and goes AFK for 10 minutes before coming back and saying "I'm going to reset your queue for you. The best part is the 15 minutes ban from duty finder STILL gets me another dungeon before you clowns."

And then he left the group.

Good times.

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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/

See the little search bar? If you type someone's name in, the server they play incomes up...fancy that!
People aren't so anonymous anymore, you can provide the Name and Server (Probably even Race/Gender if you're having difficulty identifying them).

The rest I leave to you.



(Sorry to hear you had that happen to you, i've had a few similar encounters and I just /shrug'd and moved on)

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Originally Posted by Zyeriis

I went on a slightly irrelevant rant, sorry. I find being a second tank boring as hell. There's no reason for the attitude that because they have a higher base hp means they get to enjoy the game more. There is no reason we can't alternate. If I die because I have less hp, so what? That's why there's two tanks.

(Stupid character limit)

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You can avoid the limit, by clicking "Edit" at the bottom after posting, then the limit goes away.
This way you can type as much as you want, like i'm doing right now.

Words, words, words.

WAY over the character limit.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OVER.

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Honestly you are all to blame for that just as much, that guy is just the product of the constant bitching and whining of the DPS who expect every tank to be god mode and know every speed run route, i feel like doing that to most players i group with but fortunatley for those people i have a bit more constraint

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Just because some people act like jerks, doesn't mean that the individual who weathered through those jerks should give the same treatment to other strangers. As, if everyone thought that way, then the game would end up overrun with jerks creating more jerks, since no one would hold themselves accountable and responsible for their own behavior and pass the blame onto others.

It's not appropriate behavior, regardless. Luckily I haven't had to deal with it as a healer, but the moment I do I'll be blacklisting the person.

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Honestly you are all to blame for that just as much, that guy is just the product of the constant bitching and whining of the DPS who expect every tank to be god mode and know every speed run route, i feel like doing that to most players i group with but fortunatley for those people i have a bit more constraint

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Eurgh... No. If the queue constraint were healers on the DF these type would to this stuff as healers, too. I love being a tank and having the chance to tutor less experienced players. Means that everyone gets a little bit better and QoL improves across the board.

I'm really on the fence about having a kick option for the duty finder. On the one hand, you wouldn't be at the mercy of jerks like this. As soon as he tried to play this 'game', you could all mass-vote kick him and get a new tank in ASAP. On the other hand, it opens up a whole new can of worms... linkshell groups mass-kicking someone because they have the same job as someone in the LS who needs the weapon, or people kicking someone because they disagree about a strategy... or kicking someone over some stupid opinion about gear... blah, blah, blah. It's a hard problem to solve.

Also -- just because one jerk did this doesn't mean the majority of players are jerks. For every jerk I've seen, I've played with a bunch more that were nice. As far as this being something coming over from WoW... I don't necessarily agree with that. Back when you couldn't cross-server group or use the dungeon finder, people were forced to be nice because you had a reputation. When they introduced dungeon finder, some people stopped caring because they were just from some random servers. The worst things I have heard have been in dungeon finder. The same is true of duty finder in FFXIV -- except you can't even see the person's world. You'd have to look them up and hope their name was unique. So, of course people are taking the opportunity to be jerks. There's no consequences. In FFXI, if you did something bad, everyone on the server heard about it and you were socially blacklisted within days. If you ninja'd an item, good luck finding any endgame LS who would trust you again. Your reputation followed you and it kept your behavior in check. So, I'm not saying MORE jerky players exist, but just that they have more opportunity to be jerks without any repercussions.

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Originally Posted by Crushbone-Hammerfist

Before anyone moved he asked how long the DPS had waited. They replied 30-35 minutes. Tank says "that's not nearly long enough." and goes AFK for 10 minutes before coming back and saying "I'm going to reset your queue for you. The best part is the 15 minutes ban from duty finder STILL gets me another dungeon before you clowns."

And then he left the group.

Good times.

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That right there is why I wanna level a tank. But worried ill suck

I keep seeing stories like this one... Why are there so many jerks in this game? I mean, yeah I know its the internet, but still.
People who leave dungeons before 1 mob is even pulled because there is a SMN in the group
People who pull crap like the OP just said
I joined Ifrit today and before we were even done loading in a MNK troll pulled Ifrit to kill us all for no reason
People leaving dungeons because its someones first time. The game has barely been out two weeks...

I don't know why people think this is acceptable behavior but its not. I can only hope the people like this leave once subs kick in, or realize no one likes that crap attitude.
The only good thing that came of things like this is I appreciate how awesome my Free Company is. Running with them is far more enjoyable.

Yep, we sure do have our fair share of scumbag, elitist, bottom-feeding players. They just love grieving folks. Their real lives must be both immensely successful and deeply profound, full of love and hope, I'm sure.