INCREASE TIME FOR DUTY FINDER POP AND TEXT NOTIFICATION

Ok I'm not being funny but this is getting past a joke, several times I've had this happen to me now, you get what, 45 seconds to respond to the queue? what's wrong with 1 minute? or how about 2? or 3? or how about just 5 minutes and let everyone that accepts just ENTER the damn instance in preperation.

45 seconds is by no means a reasonable amount of time for response, whilst having no text notification on your chat box to let you know that you're in, they should just take a note from Tera online and how they handled it, the queue would pop, you would then click enter and be teleported inside to meet or wait for anyone not in, there would be a 5 minute wait before the non responsive people got auto kicked or people could just kick the players not in if an ample amount of time went past.
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Just as it is atm, as a DPS I'm waiting for up to an hour to get my final story quest finished, I wait for a damn hour, I have the duty box left at the top left, it didn't update once, then before I know it, the box isn't there and I've been tossed out of the queue, this has to be the worst and slowest system I've ever had to bare witness to, there's no way in hell I'm going to sub up for the coming months if this is my experience in the game, wait for up to an hour and if I need to go afk even once...then I risk missing the pop and having to wait for an hour once again.

Sorry but .. No.

DF pops > all but 1 click fast > last one is afk > now all the others have to wait 5 min? .. >_>

45 sec is more then fine as it are.

I see no issue at all with up to 5 minutes, I did say that giving players the option to kick if they take too long to respond should be added in, but apart from that, I see no reason why this already isn't here apart from general selfishness of "lolspeedruns".

If players are having to wait for up to an hour to get in and you don't even get a minute to potentially be afk to perhaps grab a drink, go to the toilet without fear of having it pop and kick you out, or anything else you may want to quickly do, we can't all be sat at our computer for a straight hour with the inability to not have to go afk at some point.

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Originally Posted by Crashar

Ok I'm not being funny but this is getting past a joke, several times I've had this happen to me now, you get what, 45 seconds to respond to the queue? what's wrong with 1 minute? or how about 2? or 3? or how about just 5 minutes and let everyone that accepts just ENTER the damn instance in preperation.

45 seconds is by no means a reasonable amount of time for response, whilst having no text notification on your chat box to let you know that you're in, they should just take a note from Tera online and how they handled it, the queue would pop, you would then click enter and be teleported inside to meet or wait for anyone not in, there would be a 5 minute wait before the non responsive people got auto kicked or people could just kick the players not in if an ample amount of time went past.
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because i don't want to wait 5 minutes because one person is afk just to be told that the group needs to search for another

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Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X

Sorry but .. No.

DF pops > all but 1 click fast > last one is afk > now all the others have to wait 5 min? .. >_>

45 sec is more then fine as it are.

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45 Sec would be fine if you could accept during cutscenes or dialogue or other situations and you could change job in the pre-instance "circle". If I'm doing a sub class quest, I need to finish the dialogue which may involve starting a fight which may require me to also change class which I simply won't be able to do in 45 seconds.

It really must suck playing a DPS with 30 minute queues, but being very limited in other things you can do in order to not mess up your queue with a cutscene or the like.

A longer duration would only be a bandaid fix but it would be kind of nice for some people.

No way, a 5 minute wait is crazy. I've had to wait 3 times in a row because people were AFK, but that was just a bit over 2 minutes. If the timer was 5 minutes, that would have been 15. No thanks.

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Originally Posted by Hachiko

45 Sec would be fine if you could accept during cutscenes or dialogue or other situations and you could change job in the pre-instance "circle". If I'm doing a sub class quest, I need to finish the dialogue which may involve starting a fight which may require me to also change class which I simply won't be able to do in 45 seconds.

It really must suck playing a DPS with 30 minute queues, but being very limited in other things you can do in order to not mess up your queue with a cutscene or the like.

A longer duration would only be a bandaid fix but it would be kind of nice for some people.

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I agree with you on this. I would have absolutely no problem with 45 seconds if I was able to accept it while in a cutscene, on a different class, etc..

I would like a minute, but 5 min is way to much.

The 45 seconds has nvr been an issue for me. I would like it to be at least a minute though incase I'm in the middle of a dialogue but more then that would be a waste. And as for the dps taking 30+ minutes to get into an instance I have early hit that. I'm always in an instance withing 5-15 minutes.

45sec is fine. Increasing to 1min would be fine. Any more than that and... that's REALLY bad. 5min? So, those times that I've encountered queue pops that ended up having 4 occasions that someone was AFK, could potentially have been 20min of waiting (plus the 30-60min of initial wait). Yeah, BRILLIANT idea there.

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Originally Posted by Crashar

Possibly never occurred to you that each time the person hasn't responded within 45 seconds is because they were in the same situation as me once upon a time? this kind of stuff happens, especially when you're almost forced to wait from 45-60 mins just to get an instance pop.

Besides, the 5 minute thing was simply a suggestive thought, hence the reason I said 1, 2 or 3 minutes, the point I was making is that 45 seconds is so short, though I've no idea why they just didn't round it off to a minute instead of 45 very specific seconds.

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Indeed, it could have taken some of those people only a few more seconds to accept the queue. I'm not oblivious to such a possibility. However, I'm also not oblivious to the nature of players who experience long queue times (DPS). I'm guilty of being AFK for far longer than the queue time pop (even if it had been a 20, 30, 60min leeway to accept).

The way I look at it, if you know that something will take a long time to happen (DPS queue), you'll likely be laxed in going AFK for long periods of time. What if DPS had a queue time similar to tanks/healers? Or if they magically had set wait times of ~1min? The likelihood of people going AFK would drastically lower, and the idea of them doing something that could keep them away from accepting (e.g. cutscenes) would also drop. But because it's not, you can't really rely on people to actively wait for long periods of time for the queue to pop, and reliably be there to accept (even if it had been as long as 5min). It's unfair to the other players to have them wait unnecessarily long, especially given the potential chain of AFKers they may encounter (like I do).

As I said though, 1min would be fine. Longer, not so much.

Wait... Your active quest log does show that you are registered in the Duty Finder... When your Time is up, a window does indeed popup... But I agree 45s is odd. Just make it a whole minute.

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Originally Posted by Crashar

I see no issue at all with up to 5 minutes, I did say that giving players the option to kick if they take too long to respond should be added in, but apart from that, I see no reason why this already isn't here apart from general selfishness of "lolspeedruns".

If players are having to wait for up to an hour to get in and you don't even get a minute to potentially be afk to perhaps grab a drink, go to the toilet without fear of having it pop and kick you out, or anything else you may want to quickly do, we can't all be sat at our computer for a straight hour with the inability to not have to go afk at some point.

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Im going to go with a NO too, why does it have to be increased because you didnt plan accordingly. The queue never been an issue to me, in any mmo, filling any role.

If other players can kick you if you take too long, what's the point in giving 5 minutes?

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

45sec is fine. Increasing to 1min would be fine. Any more than that and... that's REALLY bad. 5min? So, those times that I've encountered queue pops that ended up having 4 occasions that someone was AFK, could potentially have been 20min of waiting (plus the 30-60min of initial wait). Yeah, BRILLIANT idea there.

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Possibly never occurred to you that each time the person hasn't responded within 45 seconds is because they were in the same situation as me once upon a time? this kind of stuff happens, especially when you're almost forced to wait from 45-60 mins just to get an instance pop.

Besides, the 5 minute thing was simply a suggestive thought, hence the reason I said 1, 2 or 3 minutes, the point I was making is that 45 seconds is so short, though I've no idea why they just didn't round it off to a minute instead of 45 very specific seconds.

Wow, it is so short? Ugh. I agree that 5 mins is much too long, but upping it to 90 sec or 2 mins would be great. If you're doing something else -- or maybe you made a quick dash to the kitchen for a can of soda after waiting for 40 mins -- 45 sec is just way too short. If queue times were only a few minutes, it would be fine. But they aren't that short, at least not usually or for DPS.

yea... lets make DF take even longer than it arleady does. lol

I just hate it when i'm in dialog for a quest or something, and it doesn't let me accept it until I spam through the dialog. IT RUINS MY IMMERSION!

But seriously yeah, I don't like that about it.

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Originally Posted by Crashar

I see no issue at all with up to 5 minutes, I did say that giving players the option to kick if they take too long to respond should be added in, but apart from that, I see no reason why this already isn't here apart from general selfishness of "lolspeedruns".

If players are having to wait for up to an hour to get in and you don't even get a minute to potentially be afk to perhaps grab a drink, go to the toilet without fear of having it pop and kick you out, or anything else you may want to quickly do, we can't all be sat at our computer for a straight hour with the inability to not have to go afk at some point.

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Seems like you are the selfish one since you think the rest of the party should wait for up to 5 minutes just because you went afk when everyone else was ready to go. 45 seconds is fine and this is coming from a dps player with long queues.

So tonight we had the 30min wait for an AK instance (hope fixed on wednesday) and FC member was crafting, used HQ materials and had to quit and fail to switch in time to accept.

you should have 45sec or 1 min to click accept then time (2-3min maybe) to switch jobs if in the middle of c/s or craft etc..

1 min is the maximum. 5 mins is like going to a Rihanna/Justin Beaver concert... Long wait and bad performance.

* You don't need 2-3 mins to switch jobs when you are crafting.
* You can enter Instance without killing the aggro mob that is hitting you.

No. I hate waiting for that one asshat who decides not to click accept for ages.

45 seconds is somewhat long, 30 would be just fine. :)

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Originally Posted by KogaDrake

So tonight we had the 30min wait for an AK instance (hope fixed on wednesday) and FC member was crafting, used HQ materials and had to quit and fail to switch in time to accept.

you should have 45sec or 1 min to click accept then time (2-3min maybe) to switch jobs if in the middle of c/s or craft etc..

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I think this is the best option, even if it was just an additional minute to finish your cutscene or whatever is keeping you from entering. At least you could accept and simply put up the "viewing cutscene" message on your name for the people already in.

I'd love to level battle classes while in queue for a dungeon on my main class, and a lot of times the queue pops during downtime. Sometimes though it will pop when I'm chaining monsters or in the middle of a FATE, at which point I'm struggling to kill them all and switch classes before the timer runs out.

It's just discouraging to try and level a battle class while in queue with another class.

Pretty much it's time to either browse the internet or lift some weights.

Because as a person who's already accepted, I don't want to wait 5 friggin minutes for some rude, lazy player that fell asleep at the keyboard or do goodness knows what that took him away from the computer. And what happens when that person still doesn't accept after 5 minutes? You just wasted everyone's time.

If you can't be bothered to pay attention and stay near your computer while in queue, then don't use it and make manual parties. 45 seconds is more than fair. I would accept 1 minute, but not a second longer.

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Originally Posted by Crashar

Ok I'm not being funny but this is getting past a joke, several times I've had this happen to me now, you get what, 45 seconds to respond to the queue? what's wrong with 1 minute? or how about 2? or 3? or how about just 5 minutes and let everyone that accepts just ENTER the damn instance in preperation.

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Correct me wrong but doesn't a big box (the size of your character screen) with a ACCEPT button appear on your screen? when you get in? how do you not see that? and how will a little tiny text notification in the chat help especially when the chat is a cluster F*** most of the time.

You could always pay attention. 45 seconds is plenty of time to switch into the proper class and join.

I don't want it any longer because I play a tank and waiting for dps to pull their heads out of their backsides takes long enough as it is.

Sometimes if you're in a CS etc. that box will instaminimize on you and you don't notice. The reason it won't let you accept or generally do anything during a CS is so that you don't bork the quest/mission and potentially be unable to ever finish it without getting your char rolled back. Ive known people in FFXI who had to go through tech Hell because they DCed mid CS and the quest person wouldn't continue on when they logged back in.

As a tank, you'd be surprised how many people have "missed" their 45 secs. That being said, I don't want to have to wait 5 minutes because someone afk-ed when I needed only 2 seconds on the queue. So personally, I'd say no. But I think the notifications can use some improvement (putting in the chat log, bigger popup, explosive sound, whatever). And/or just automatically switch you to the state you were in when you clicked accept on the duty finder (job, gear, etc. mainly job, since you can still switch other gear in-dungeon).

Decrease DF finder response time to 15 seconds. Far more than reasonable when that many are waiting on you. Eight people times 15 seconds is 4 minutes of time wasted on a huge box that fills the screen. Eight people times 45 seconds is 6 minutes wasted. One minute would be 8 minutes wasted.

If our time is wasted it should be for a purpose, not because your not paying attention.

I don't know if it's been mentionned but the OP brought up TERA and the way they handle queues, I'd also like to add that TERA blinks the game icon in your taskbar when you get in a group (like Skype etc), which is really helpful when you're not watching the game constantly.

Making the timer longer only extends your wait duration as a DPS. Instead of waiting 45 seconds to move up in line, you wait 5 minutes because a lame DPS failed at clicking. As a tank, there really is no wait. And if there is it is usually under a minute. That generally means there are that many more DPS in queue waiting to group. If you want to fix DF times, you need more tanks and healers. WoW used an incentive to bring tanks and healers in and it usually seems to work for the best.

No thanks. Maybe you should stay close when queuing for DF.

Agreeing with people who say better notification is needed. If I'm in a cut scene or an instance battle for some class quest then, pausing what's going on and having a button I can click that will change class to the one I queued on and join the party. Then when it's done just starting whatever I was doing over again would be fine. That way the current 45 seconds would be reasonable.