Being Forced To Wait 10 Minutes For Character Connection Timeout (No Thanks.)

Well.

My Comcast connection reset itself ten minutes ago, disconnecting me from FFXIV and I am now stuck waiting for my character to time out so I can log back in.

I really would appreciate it if Square Enix would increase the "connection keepalive" checks so that when a disconnect happens, the character would be logged out of the game by the time the player attempts to reconnect.

Basically, it goes like this: Player gets forcibly disconnected by douchey ISP. Player gets back online, attempts relog. Server recognizes login attempt, automatically disconnects any "ghosts", and permits the player to reconnect on the second login attempt.

Please, implement this. For the love of all the Gods that have ever existed in the lifetime of humanity, implement this. I am SICK of waiting 10+ minutes for my character to time out.

Edit: This is the fifth time it's happened in as many days.

is it still 10 minutes? because I have to wait just few mins after DCed in this version

This is a common problem in pretty much every MMO out there

something to do with when your provider has a hickup and your character doesnt log out correctly. You basicaly cant log in until it times out

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

This is a common problem in pretty much every MMO out there

something to do with when your provider has a hickup and your character doesnt log out correctly. You basicaly cant log in until it times out

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The solution is to have the server LOG YOUR *BLEEP* CHARACTER OUT...WHEN YOU ATTEMPT TO LOG IN AGAIN...that's what I was suggesting here.

And in regards to Comcast, I'm going to ask them to replace the stupid modem.

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

The solution is to have the server LOG YOUR *BLEEP* CHARACTER OUT...WHEN YOU ATTEMPT TO LOG IN AGAIN...that's what I was suggesting here.

And in regards to Comcast, I'm going to ask them to replace the stupid modem.

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lol yes that is a good option

but i can also see a HUGE downside to it too which i wont go into and thats probly why it isnt like that anwyhere(it does seem logical but there are reasons)

It does seem to happen alot more with comcast then other providers too but thats cuz comcast sucks in general

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

lol yes that is a good option

but i can also see a HUGE downside to it too which i wont go into and thats probly why it isnt like that anwyhere(it does seem logical but there are reasons)

It does seem to happen alot more with comcast then other providers too but thats cuz comcast sucks in general

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Comcast needs to get raped by a Morbol. Screw their monopoly...

If you have another character, log in with that character. It will auto log out your DC'd character. Log out of the second character and log back in with your DC'd one. I did it back with FFXI too. It's a pain, but it's faster than waiting 10 minutes. That is if you do have another character. If not, then i dunno *shrugs*

Comcast is a terrible service provider.

Also yeah they should probably increase the disconnect checks.

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

Comcast needs to get raped by a Morbol. Screw their monopoly...

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yeah
im with uverse, we have it happen too...
by that i mean twice in the last 7 months, not too bad

but i have alot in my shell who just have massive issues with comcast, ALWAYS comcast doing this

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

The solution is to have the server LOG YOUR *BLEEP* CHARACTER OUT...WHEN YOU ATTEMPT TO LOG IN AGAIN...that's what I was suggesting here.

And in regards to Comcast, I'm going to ask them to replace the stupid modem.

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It does. >.>

When I disconnect, all I have to do is try to connect again. This logs the character out. Then you should only have to wait a minute or two before trying to log in again.

The problem comes if you're trying to spam your login. If you do that, it will take much longer.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

It does. >.>

When I disconnect, all I have to do is try to connect again. This logs the character out. Then you should only have to wait a minute or two before trying to log in again.

The problem comes if you're trying to spam your login. If you do that, it will take much longer.

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Pretty much like he said.
I was sharing my beta account with a friend of mine, and when I was playing and he wanted to log into the game with my account, the session would have been closed.

Needless to say, that's pretty much what every MMO, online game, Internet service does.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

It does. >.>

When I disconnect, all I have to do is try to connect again. This logs the character out. Then you should only have to wait a minute or two before trying to log in again.

The problem comes if you're trying to spam your login. If you do that, it will take much longer.

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That's not accurate. If my ISP goes down and I time out of the game, I have to wait 10 minutes or so. Maybe you're having another sort of disconnection.

And yes it is annoying to have to wait 10 minutes.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

This is a common problem in pretty much every MMO out there

something to do with when your provider has a hickup and your character doesnt log out correctly. You basicaly cant log in until it times out

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Really? Because to be honest every other MMO I have played (over two dozen) logs my character out if I try and log the same character back in. Instead of forcing me into a 10 minute wait.

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Originally Posted by Iron

That's not accurate. If my ISP goes down and I time out of the game, I have to wait 10 minutes or so. Maybe you're having another sort of disconnection.

And yes it is annoying to have to wait 10 minutes.

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Actually, it makes more sense that it would be a problem with your ISP than the game. There's no such thing as an "other sort of disconnection".

I can tell you for a fact that if you R0 (disconnect) from FFXIV or crash (which also causes a disconnect), that you are not required to wait 10 minutes before you can log in again. You will get a "character is logged in" error the first time you try to reconnect, but you don't have to wait more than about 2 minutes after that. (It's a fact because it's happened to me on multiple occasions, and has never been different).

If you are having to wait 10 minutes or more, there is something else wrong.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

is it still 10 minutes? because I have to wait just few mins after DCed in this version

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This version? You mean after one of the recent patches?


@Kaedan Well I can guarantee you that I'm not the only one who's had to wait the ~10 minutes. I'm not sure if this has been changed in a recent patch, like Evangela seems to be implying. If it has, then great..

Whenever I've dced in the past, relogging on did not log off my character that was "stuck" in game. One other thing I know I tried very recently. My friend had logged on my account and was afk in town. I tried to log on and it would not let me..so it does not automatically log him off at his end. Again, not sure if this has been changed very recently. And maybe it's working differently for different people, as you don't seem to have this problem.. which is quite weird:P

10 minute lockouts does seem to happen to certain people in the shell over and over. I'm skeptical that they aren't just overestimating their woes and 2 minutes just feels like 10 minutes or they keep spamming login and screwing up the reset of data. If Square causes me to crash I can relog immediately. If I cause the crash it's the standard 2-3 minutes if I just chill for the first minute and not try to relog. I've had every kind of dc I can think of except explicitly pulling the plug and never had to wait 10 minutes. Not even when I accidentally left my game on in one city and was in another and had my cable company reset my modem remotely.

It has to be at least two minutes though. There are too many potential advantages to force-dc'ing and coming back quickly. Game can't distinguish between accidental and forced disconnect, so it has to at least cover the potential chance that you're trying to DC for personal advantage. It sucks, but if you log in quickly you can't get into the party you dc'd from anyway, again because that was an activity that was abused in the past.

I know for sure that it is not 2 minutes for me when I dc. Definitely not 2 minutes. I've gone and made a sandwich, grabbed a drink. came back and still could not log on.

So this is very odd then.

Some people dc for around 2 minutes and some 10 minutes??

Ugh, the ten minute d/c thing is a pain. ;_; And yes, it is ten minutes exactly! lol

Well, that is to say it can be. When my router resets itself I have to wait ten minutes - despite my connection becoming stable again almost instantly - and I sometimes have to wait ten minutes when the game crashes too.

Back when the market wards would often crash - and my ISP was being awfully temperamental even by its woeful standards - ...well, yeah, that wasn't a fun time. :c

I'll have to try that second character trick, though~

( Although a fix would be my preferred option. >_>; )

I think I tried the 2nd character trick and it did not work for me.. because it still sees my main in game and does not let me log in a 2nd guy. I'll test again later.

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Originally Posted by cdreamworld

If you have another character, log in with that character. It will auto log out your DC'd character. Log out of the second character and log back in with your DC'd one. I did it back with FFXI too. It's a pain, but it's faster than waiting 10 minutes. That is if you do have another character. If not, then i dunno *shrugs*

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that's never worked for me :-(

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Actually, it makes more sense that it would be a problem with your ISP than the game. There's no such thing as an "other sort of disconnection".

I can tell you for a fact that if you R0 (disconnect) from FFXIV or crash (which also causes a disconnect), that you are not required to wait 10 minutes before you can log in again. You will get a "character is logged in" error the first time you try to reconnect, but you don't have to wait more than about 2 minutes after that. (It's a fact because it's happened to me on multiple occasions, and has never been different).

If you are having to wait 10 minutes or more, there is something else wrong.

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If the game crashes or something server side happens to force you out, (some days certain peoples connections to SE are a bit weak as happens to me a lot) then you won't have to wait very long at all.

However, if your router hangs, or something happens your side to disrupt the internet then you WILL have to wait for around 7-10 minutes before you're able to login again. that's the way it works for me anyway

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

The solution is to have the server LOG YOUR *BLEEP* CHARACTER OUT...WHEN YOU ATTEMPT TO LOG IN AGAIN...that's what I was suggesting here.

And in regards to Comcast, I'm going to ask them to replace the stupid modem.

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Silver most of the time it isn't the modem, have comcast verify there is no squirrel chew on your drop, no water in it, that all fittings are tight, and that your modem is on a dedicated line off the first split in the house. Also have him verify the send and receive levels at the tap, ground block and modem. Acceptable levels are 0 on receive, 45 on transmit and 37 Signal to Noise Ratio. It can fluctuate a few db based on where on the plant you are but in order to properly calculate what you should be at I would need to know your tap value and how many ports are on it.

Also have him make sure that you have RG6 Quad ran throughout the house, Absolutely no satellite splitters or Radio shack 900mhz or less splitters... the tech will hate you for all this but it is now the industry standard.

I dont mind. Thanks to this I didn't miss an NM drop one a day my lights went out for a second.

I have it both, but i am pleasantly surprised each time i can log back in within 2 minutes. It does often take much longer, i am not spamming login because i'm looking as my husbands monitor to see when my character drops from the game. This also rules out any router or modem issues because then we'd both disconnect from the game. SE needs to make this so when you log in your "ghost" character gets removed from the game, every other MMO i have played adresses this in this way. I have no idea why i sometimes can log back in right away, sometimes 2 minutes and sometimes 10.

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Originally Posted by CanteJondo

If the game crashes or something server side happens to force you out, (some days certain peoples connections to SE are a bit weak as happens to me a lot) then you won't have to wait very long at all.

However, if your router hangs, or something happens your side to disrupt the internet then you WILL have to wait for around 7-10 minutes before you're able to login again. that's the way it works for me anyway

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I am just curious why it would be different. I'm not calling anyone liars, but I've had both situations happen to me, and there's been no problems. This is why I think it might have more to do with specific connections to certain ISPs rather than an issue on SE's end.

At the very least I know that if you try to log in right after a disconnect, it will trigger your character to log out. I even tested it tonight.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

I am just curious why it would be different. I'm not calling anyone liars, but I've had both situations happen to me, and there's been no problems. This is why I think it might have more to do with specific connections to certain ISPs rather than an issue on SE's end.

At the very least I know that if you try to log in right after a disconnect, it will trigger your character to log out. I even tested it tonight.

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Well server-side crashes are quick relogs because you were actually walking around a game you were no longer even actually in for a good 40 seconds, whereas if it screws up on your end the server's like Bueler...Bueler....Bueler... and you're screaming that you can't log in.