Pvp crosses fingers

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09-10-2013, 02:13 AM
luggz

Pvp crosses fingers

I hope to god pvp will be good in this game
From what I hear in 1.0 was a joke but never played it so can't comment

But... Me and my buds that all came from the mmo that shall not be named multiple galds multiple seasons are all pvp junkies

With that being said pvp will make or break this game for myself and about 35 of my friends

Crosses fingers that pvp is so epic and better then any other mmo out there

Thoughts, comments, opions on 1.0 pvp anything that will help
09-10-2013, 02:20 AM
cloverkitty

1. There was not PVP in 1.0
2. PVP is limited to areas in the Wolfs Den. How good it will be is debatable. FFXI had PVP also but it was meh at best and noone used it after a while.
3. There will be no open wold PVP.
4. If you are a PVP junkie I would not be surpised if you are quit dissappointed.
5. This of course coming from someone who seems PVP as something among friends to test out skills and nothing more in general.
09-10-2013, 02:27 AM
Shikoba

I honestly don't see pvp becoming more than a fun, minor distraction in between doing other things. It really isn't the focus of this game or FF in general. Really the only reason it is probably being added is due to yoshi knowing players like TC want something to bite their teeth into, but I doubt it will have any real meat to it.
09-10-2013, 02:33 AM
Accolades

PVP will not and has never been the focus for a final fantasy mmo if you think PVP is going to be anything like its counterparts you will be disappointed. This is not the game you want to play for pvp. I suggest you go play GW2 or WOW. I guarantee PVP will not ever be the focus here.
09-10-2013, 02:35 AM
Riffy

Keep your expectations low, you may be surprised.
09-10-2013, 03:07 AM
Alhanelem

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Originally Posted by Shikoba

I honestly don't see pvp becoming more than a fun, minor distraction in between doing other things. It really isn't the focus of this game or FF in general. Really the only reason it is probably being added is due to yoshi knowing players like TC want something to bite their teeth into, but I doubt it will have any real meat to it.

There's going to be rewards, therefore there will be a following. It isn't like in FFXI where ballista had no reward whatsoever, thus there was no incentive to participate.
09-10-2013, 03:20 AM
Pino_the_Mike

I don't see PVP being anything serious. The combat mechanics aren't very pvp friendly in my opinion. I won't be surprised if you are disappointed.
09-10-2013, 03:28 AM
Laifon

Don't expect too much, if they want the pvp to be great.. they would have to change a looot of skills in pvp
09-10-2013, 03:34 AM
Alkimi

Quote:

Originally Posted by cloverkitty

2. PVP is limited to areas in the Wolfs Den. How good it will be is debatable. FFXI had PVP also but it was meh at best and noone used it after a while.
3. There will be no open world PVP.

While techincally true, Frontlines is looking to be sort of open world PvP. They are zones in themsleves although you will be warned before entering that you are open to attack from player characters. Although when that appears is anyone's guess, I'd imagine coliseum will be first though.

Remember that it has been stated that both Coliseum and Frontlines rewards and progress will have no bearing on PvE content so it's completely optional.
09-10-2013, 03:56 AM
StallGaze

I did pvp in beta 4, 2 times and won both contests.

I still don't want to see stats for wins / loses. It will discourage players that go 0/10. Maybe it could keep track of top 100 per server...

I would assume that it will be point based and trade in the points for gear. The large scale pvp is going to be fun!
09-10-2013, 04:04 AM
Laifon

Don't get me wrong, I think the pvp will be fun.. but it will be a no brainer. Probably a gankfest :P
09-10-2013, 04:06 AM
Strychnine

I think I have to agree with what one said, this combat isn't ready for a PVP atmosphere. Combat is nice, but overall it's a bit clunky to go against other players with. I'm an avid PVPer in another game, but here it would just be a sellout idea, imo.
09-10-2013, 04:08 AM
Straiya

I'm looking forward to it. I enjoy a bit of pvp that isn't overly frustrating due to mechanics, so we'll have to see how it's implemented.
09-10-2013, 04:12 AM
Mordermi

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Originally Posted by Strychnine

I think I have to agree with what one said, this combat isn't ready for a PVP atmosphere. Combat is nice, but overall it's a bit clunky to go against other players with. I'm an avid PVPer in another game, but here it would just be a sellout idea, imo.

I could be wrong, but didn't they say that combat is going to be totally different for PvP? Different skills, stats, and everything?
09-10-2013, 04:13 AM
Aramyth

I thought they said there will be different skills for pvp vs pve.

As for all the old farts who say because FFXI never had good pvp that it means FFXIV will never had good pvp, well, get over it. Yoshi P knows what he's doing.
09-10-2013, 04:14 AM
Conradus

Quote:

Originally Posted by luggz

I hope to god pvp will be good in this game
From what I hear in 1.0 was a joke but never played it so can't comment

There was no PvP in 1.0.

Quote:

But... Me and my buds that all came from the mmo that shall not be named multiple galds multiple seasons are all pvp junkies

With that being said pvp will make or break this game for myself and about 35 of my friends

Crosses fingers that pvp is so epic and better then any other mmo out there

Thoughts, comments, opions on 1.0 pvp anything that will help

I will be frank. If the primary reason you play MMOs is PvP, then this will likely never be the game for you. PvP in FFXI was very limited, and I expect it will be the same here when it is implemented.
09-10-2013, 04:18 AM
Strychnine

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Originally Posted by Mordermi

I could be wrong, but didn't they say that combat is going to be totally different for PvP? Different skills, stats, and everything?

They did, but I don't mean the skills themselves. Moving and fighting to me feels clunky to me in this game.
09-10-2013, 04:20 AM
Mordermi

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Originally Posted by Strychnine

They did, but I don't mean the skills themselves. Moving and fighting to me feels clunky to me in this game.

Oh okay. I see what you mean. I can agree with that. Hopefully they can make it work.
09-10-2013, 05:20 AM
Alhanelem

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Originally Posted by Pino_the_Mike

I don't see PVP being anything serious. The combat mechanics aren't very pvp friendly in my opinion. I won't be surprised if you are disappointed.

There are specific skills and mechanics being added to the game to accommodate PvP. These of course will only be useable in PvP and not impact PvE

But even as it is, the mechanics are not unfriendly to PvP. This game is very action-oriented compared to FFXI and suits PvP much better. Movement and control in this game isn't "clunky" at all. FFXI, now that was clunky movement.

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I will be frank. If the primary reason you play MMOs is PvP, then this will likely never be the game for you. PvP in FFXI was very limited, and I expect it will be the same here when it is implemented.

That's not likely to be the case. Yoshida is a self-proclaimed PvP fan and he's the primary reason we're going to have it in the first place. We know he's not going to half-ass it- And the early testing during beta phase 4, while missing a lot of the planned features, was still fun to me.
09-10-2013, 05:31 AM
Altanas

It will be a welcome distraction but without regular releases of new zones/battlefields it will get boring fast.