Weaver / Leatherworker Thought

I hadn't seen this posted anywhere so I figured I'd throw it up here, but I was wondering what everyone would think about helping out Weavers / Leatherworkers a bit in their resource gathering. As it sits, both require you to kill things to get crafting mats. I don't have a problem with that specifically, but when it comes to needing A LOT of mats, endlessly killing things seems a bit out of balance with other crafting classes that require node materials. Here's my thoughts:

1: Make it so when you hit 20-25, as a part of your class quest you get a buff that you have to slot on your DoW / DoM class that raises the drop rate of crafting mats for that specific class from mobs that drop them by like 50-75%, or that buffs the amount dropped.

2: Introduce a Trapper class that is able to gather skins and hides and whatnot from Trapping nodes. I know this one would take more effort than the first, but it's still an idea :D

Thoughts? Would doing this upset the current balance? I have neither of these crafting classes yet, but a couple of friends do and while they don't mind farming for them, the lack of drops from mobs seems less rewarding than it could be (i.e. sometimes the mobs don't drop anything for a while and then you get one that drops 2 hides or skins or whatever, then nothing else for awhile).

I totally agree on this one. I am a Leather Worker and you have to have a ton of animal Hides...this entails killing lots of mobs and makes it really time consuming to level LWk when you have to stop and go gather more animal Hides. I know every class has its challenges but just saying. Get a trapper trait or something for my BARD would be fantastic to increase drop amounts or at least the % drop rate.

Hmm have you guys tried doing the tradecraft leves? I was told they give a pretty good amount of materials but I haven't tried it yet.

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Originally Posted by Artamie

Hmm have you guys tried doing the tradecraft leves? I was told they give a pretty good amount of materials but I haven't tried it yet.

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I used levequests on my ARM quite a bit to go through entire levels w/ maybe 5 of them using HQ materials. The stuff they give you doesn't compensate for what you have to make. Add to that that you run out of allowances pretty quick.

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Originally Posted by Artamie

Hmm have you guys tried doing the tradecraft leves? I was told they give a pretty good amount of materials but I haven't tried it yet.

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I have only done a few tradecraft leves and they did not give me any materials, other than crystals (I think). The few I have done consisted of making one simple item and delivering it to the requester. It provided decent XP and some decent rewards, although nothing too great.

I see, that's disappointing! Farming sheep is definitely becoming a problem since there's only like 2 spots near Dragon Head which are almost always occupied and interferes with questers. :(

After leveling DoW to 50 first I'm doing relatively fine as a LTW so far at level 30. Some cool ideas in here. But my main roadblock while crafting right now is dealing with the Associated Weavers of Diabolos trying to gouge for cloth. 1k for a cotton cloth? Outrageous.

About leve rewards, you have to keep checking in periodically, they sometimes offer different rewards including skin.

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Originally Posted by Artamie

Hmm have you guys tried doing the tradecraft leves? I was told they give a pretty good amount of materials but I haven't tried it yet.

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I have not tried that yet...I will give that a shot. I am going to try and look up what mobs for sure drop what I need and see what I can farm and what the rate will be first. Maybe if I just devote some time to hardcore farming they will last me a while.

I don't think it's all bad. Killing monsters to collect mats means that you don't need to have a specific gathering profession leveled to collect those materials. So even though you may collect them slower, they can be easier to access. Obviously you do need a battle class of some sort instead, but that's a lot less specific than gathering professions can be and most players likely plan to level at least one battle class anyway.

Levelling something like mining is extremely boring and slow. Mining may collect mats fast once it gets to the needed level, but reaching that level can be a very tedious process. I've been doing a large number of professions and levelling things like mining is a way bigger timesink than I spend grinding out various animal hides.

that is good to know...guess you do not know how good you have it until you see another point of view. LOL Now you make me not want to level mining...and I wanted to do that.

Yea I have a 50 DoW a 50 DoH and my mining is 47 simply because that's all I needed to get my DoH to 50. Now I'm leveling it to 50, but it's still tedious :P Point is, mining for ARM or BSM is a constant thing. Going out to kill things is hit or miss AND gathering from nodes doesn't interfere w/ FATES or questing. There's also no contesting nodes; everyone can hit them. When you're in a spot where maybe 4-5 things spawn (diremites / sheep) then they're usually controlled by 1 or 2 people (whoever can get the tag off). It's that extra effort that the other crafting / gathering classes don't have to deal with that's a pain.

Diremite web, I hate you so much..

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Originally Posted by Scrubbs

Yea I have a 50 DoW a 50 DoH and my mining is 47 simply because that's all I needed to get my DoH to 50. Now I'm leveling it to 50, but it's still tedious :P Point is, mining for ARM or BSM is a constant thing. Going out to kill things is hit or miss AND gathering from nodes doesn't interfere w/ FATES or questing. There's also no contesting nodes; everyone can hit them. When you're in a spot where maybe 4-5 things spawn (diremites / sheep) then they're usually controlled by 1 or 2 people (whoever can get the tag off). It's that extra effort that the other crafting / gathering classes don't have to deal with that's a pain.

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All this is very true and there's no doubt that mining is a much faster and reliable way to get mats once you have it levelled up. I still think they need to improve the material monster grind situation in some way, I just wanted to share one note worthy perk about it that people hadn't considered.

At the very least things like diremites and sheeps should be given extra spawn locations. Drop rates and everything else aside, there are just too few spawns to support the demand for such key profession materials.

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Originally Posted by Woofles

All this is very true and there's no doubt that mining is a much faster and reliable way to get mats once you have it levelled up. I still think they need to improve the material monster grind situation in some way, I just wanted to share one note worthy perk about it that people hadn't considered.

At the very least things like diremites and sheeps should be given extra spawn locations. Drop rates and everything else aside, there are just too few spawns to support the demand for such key profession materials.

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Working off this idea, they could make a trait that you can equip (or buff, whatever) on your combat class that makes node-type areas spawn (think story quests with the purple rings) that when you enter the area, it spawns mobs of the type you're looking for (sheep, mites, etc). They'd be all locked to you like duty quest stuff.

There's also the way World of Warcraft handled this with tailors where they got a buff to get extra drops, regardless of the initial drop, that was just cloth only. So say if the sheep you're killing drops a hoof or nothing at all for its normal roll, there is also always a 2nd roll it does to see how many crafting mats you'd get, so off of every kill you'd always get like 1 or 2 things. Still doesn't fix the problem of competition though.

1. Let DOL/DOH harvest from mobs. Skin a dead mob or sheer a live sheep for fleece.

2. Introduce enhanced/dynamic spawns. Kill a group of sheep and 2 more groups spawn in its place. Or simply influence spawns to a great extent by weather or time of day, in addition to the current spawns. More mobs keeps all the farmers in competition happy.

3. At DOL/DOH milestones, give us passive pervasive traits to mob drop rates. Allow us to select from drop rate, HQ drop rate, double drops. Perhaps only one trait active at a time like how FC buff works.

The worst part is it's nearly impossible to get HQ mats from mob farming, which makes leveling the craft off leves tons harder and tons slower in general. I farmed 2 stacks of aldgoat hides(99 x2 198 total) and ended up with 4 HQ's. Mining/botany gets 15% HQ chances and you can farm up HQ much faster and more reliably.

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Originally Posted by AridElf

Diremite web, I hate you so much..

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Second that. There's always a glut of people there fighting over it, and God help you if you want some. They'll bring their friends/FC/LS buddies and probably even their grandmother to stop you if they need them. What makes them even madder if you still keep outfarming them.

Snurble Tufts.

I spent 3 hours farming snurble tufts, and didn't even get a full stack.

The snurble tufts I got, lasted less than an hour, and I think netted me maybe a level on my weaver (should have paid more attention to that, sorry).

Anyway, yeah, I think there should be something. Maybe a purchasable scroll like those xp buffs for crafting gathering, but this one increases your drop rate. Or maybe add a slightly higher drop rate based on the number/level of your crafting classes.

I've hit a wall with most of my crafts now because I just can't stomach going out to farm for 3 hours again. I'll do it, eventually, but a little bit of something to help out on the drops would be nice :)

Agree OP.
If I take down an antelope with my bow I should get a hide. I will never understand where the hide disappears off to just because its dead lol

Id be happy with decent buff to the drop rate.

Ideally Id like to see a skinning skill but I know that would be a fairly huge game re-design so ain't gonna happen.

C'mon SE please give us a hide drop buff. Either an ability or adjust the code...