[dev 1032] STATUS POINT ALLOCATION

i dont know if someone has posted the same thing but i havent seen that thread here, i just want to know any ideas of how the status point allocation should be if the physical level stays in the game.

Im gonna try to be short in this, i like the current physical level system it makes easier to rank up classes in low levels for hardcore or experimented players, i like the idea that i can make more damage than others just because the way i have customized my character, you can use different type of gear and arrange your general status according the gear stats and you can grow your character in the way you see fit.

My Op is that if they leave the same system just with stat point allotment memorized by the game it could work, what i mean is that if im grinding as an archer i have certain stats customized, so when i change my class to gladiator i have other customized stats, so just adding memory to the status point allotment changing all your stats automatically everytime you change class it would be better than scrapping the physical levels from the character.

well i hope to read some of your toughts.

Personally I want them to remove assignments by the player and implement the Blue Mage Stat assignments from FFXI where what skills you have equipped determined your stats.

I like both of the ideas, but I like the customized points better.

I like the physical levels and i like status point allocation.
What i totally do not like is that you cannot save the setups for each class.

If we could save 1-2 profiles for each job and if the action bar setup would be saved too then it would be perfect!

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Personally I want them to remove assignments by the player and implement the Blue Mage Stat assignments from FFXI where what skills you have equipped determined your stats.

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Yeah, everyone pretty much tried to ignore you the first 100 times.


Physical levels will be removed. Stat formulas will be redesigned. Until the formulas are done, you won't see specific allotment.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

Yeah, everyone pretty much tried to ignore you the first 100 times.


Physical levels will be removed. Stat formulas will be redesigned. Until the formulas are done, you won't see specific allotment.

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Honestly, I just hope they don't remove the control we have over our characters.

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Originally Posted by Rau

Honestly, I just don't hope that they remove the control we have over our characters.

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There is no control actually, there is very little. Removing physical levels and alloting points specifically based on your class rank could prove to be better.

If you look at the current stat formulas, there begins to be severe diminishing results after 110/120 points. With the formulas simplified, after some testing you will be able to have a more open offensive or defensive character design rather than just capping out VIT/MND and putting whatever is left into STR/DEX PIE/INT due to really.... not needing much to get the job done.

You might think that you are "more powerful" when ranking a new class and you'd be right. However, your offensive allotment is pretty much the same in a way in your late 30's as your R50. Meaning, your soft cap at those ranks are when you start to really see those diminishing results and you should just be putting everything in VIT or MND or both at that point. The only thing left is player rank vs mob rank difference, but that is an entirely different story of imbalance.

I like the current system but should implement the ability to memorize each allotment for each class

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I like the current system but should implement the ability to memorize each allotment for each class

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Meh, this is hardly even customization, if we were all making a gladiator and we all knew the most efficient approach towards making that gladiator we would all allot out points exactly the same in order to make that gladiator. This system is over-rated by FFXIV players and is a waste of time all together - I would rather have customization for the classes themselves than stat points (i.e., have something similar to ability trees or "sphere grid" if you like). They should completely scrap the "customization" of the stat points, write them in stone depending on your class and rank and maybe even race because this way they can balance content around it as they wish...the way it is now will always mean that it wont affect your growth as much as you wish it does.

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Personally I want them to remove assignments by the player and implement the Blue Mage Stat assignments from FFXI where what skills you have equipped determined your stats.

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What skill you had didn't determine your stats it just added to them, and gave you new traits like double attack or fast cast.

I would like to see a hybrid of FFXI and the current system. I love the idea of a physical level, but I hate the point allotment system. I think that they should just get rid of the point allotment system and instead just use predefined stats based on the class rank and race. The physical level could give a bonus on top of these predefined stats. I really liked how in FFXI each race could play anything but was slightly better at a certain set of jobs. I would also like to see it much harder to level the physical level.

Can't express this enough we really need to either have allotment point saved to each job or just remove physical levels entirely. As of now bonus stats such as str and dex from equipment are pretty much obsolete since they both play a minor role in combat should either give us set stats based on classes or make str, dex, pie, and int more useful.

They already said they are getting rid of the plvls and making you do stats for every job based on rank.

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Originally Posted by Honz

Can't express this enough we really need to either have allotment point saved to each job or just remove physical levels entirely. As of now bonus stats such as str and dex from equipment are pretty much obsolete since they both play a minor role in combat should either give us set stats based on classes or make str, dex, pie, and int more useful.

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Agreed, I am sick of how your stats from gear etc.. is pretty much useless. I want to see these bonuses in dmg,def and so on. So I can't wait for them to get rid of the phy lvl and give jobs/classes the stats they should have. Assigning points is lame if it don't make any difference in performance period, just makes you feel like you have some control over your character which you really don't.

I like the physical levels and the way it helps define our character, as well as the point allotment system. However, I do think that they save stats on a per discipline basis. In other words, you have an automatically saved/retrieved point allotment for all of your Disciple of War classes, another separate allotment for Disciples of Magic, another of Disciples of the Hand, and one allotment for Disciples of the Land that are all applied automatically when you change to one of those classes. The reassign would work just like it currently does, except it would per-discipline, as well.

This would give us a tad more ability to customize, would hopefully discourage people simply opting for the optimum allotment for each class, and providing convenience that the current system lacks.

I know the system doesnt work as it should right now, but if that was fixed and lets say every 1 DEX for example equal 2, 5 or 10 acc crit %, etc and 1 VIT equals 2, 5, 10 hp, damage reduction %, i dont know as it was with FF XI, wouldnt be great having the freedom to customize those stats as you see fit with a cap in every rank? thats the way i see they were planning the system worked i dont know why they couldnt make it work.

But i see a lot of potential in a system like that because the gear will still have a lot of importance and the character growth will differ a little base on the gear stats and type of growth each one want, some archers would prefer hitting more and have lesser attack and viceversa.

2 cents

I already posted my ideas on physical level here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post104936

People want points allocation to be class specific, fine, but let's not take away Physical level. Let's just change what bonus is given by physical level. :o