Group Requirements for STORY QUESTS

Hey All,

Been playing for 2 evenings now.. and having an awesome time!


But there is one thing of concern...
To progress the STORY QUESTS... some of them require a GROUP.

While I have nothing against groups... (I mean.. I am playing an MMO right?)
I do have something against waiting hours apron hours just to get a crack at said quest.

I finally finished the first group quest in the story line.. and tbh... I will be level 50 before I finish the level 20 story line...
only because waiting for a group is BS!


Seriously.. I love grouping.. but if I cant progress my character unless I group.. that is BS!

this is an otherwise awesome game... ruined by forcing me to group just to progress the main story.

Duty finder? Never waited more than 40 mins for anything and that is just Hard Primals and Amdapor when people aren't on. Lower stuff always pops in a few mins. I'm surprised to hear your having issues, also as a side note, what MMO's have you played that don't require groups for portions of any main story quest mission?

I don't have a lot of mmo variety experience (I have been playing for a number of years, I just don't jump ship very quickly to something new) but what I have seen and experienced, the story/questing is separate from the dungeon running. Yes, there is story in the dungeons, but this is the first I have been tied down from progressing in questing (since the main story also unlocks all the quest hubs) by needing to do group content.

Now, I am not at all complaining about this. I love it. Honestly, if you find yourself stuck waiting for a queue and you have NOTHING to do on that class, switch to your alternate class and start working on it. To get access to your job at 30, you will need to be 15 on your alternative class. And there are at least 2 classes that complement your main class as far as getting abilities from them. These carry all the way up through 34. So whatever your main is, you have to get at least two other classes to 34. Go work on that while you wait.

I dont see the issue here.. Its an MMO. I have yet to play an MMO that allows you to solo through content on the main story sorry but this just doesnt make sense

I enjoy the set-up a lot, it requires people to play with one another that way you don't get a mostly Single Player MMO. I'm going to guess you're new to the FF MMO Style?

Either way, I do understand the frustration if you wanted too sometimes its quicker to use the Shout channel and find a group that way.

While I know that the "final fantasy MMO" style is a bit different, I would not worry about this right now, you will get groups. You just might have to wait a while.

I would be more concerned about a few years down the line, when a new player needs to do Sastascha for example. Who on earth is going to do that dungeon with them?

Gonna be rough going in future...

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Originally Posted by Raiz_Cineris

I dont see the issue here.. Its an MMO. I have yet to play an MMO that allows you to solo through content on the main story sorry but this just doesnt make sense

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WoW, Star Wars, and EVE all do. I have played others but not very much, so I cannot speak about them. Star Wars, your class quest is ALL solo, and so is the planet quest lines. EVE has everything open from the start, they just lock you down based on skill points allocated. There are a handful of "main story arcs" in the game, and are all intended to be ran solo. And WoW didn't have any "main story" quests... in the beginning. Things have changed a bit since then, but even still, not required to group for the content. (unless things changed with Pandas... didn't play that).

Actually what I find cool about this game, the solo content for the story you MUST do it solo. You cannot "outlevel" any of the content since it forces your level down to something appropriate. Forcing you, the player, to learn to play, instead of somehow cheesing through the content.

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Originally Posted by pikster

While I know that the "final fantasy MMO" style is a bit different, I would not worry about this right now, you will get groups. You just might have to wait a while.

I would be more concerned about a few years down the line, when a new player needs to do Sastascha for example. Who on earth is going to do that dungeon with them?

Gonna be rough going in future...

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That would indicate that this style would fail on any game, which is false. There are always people leveling. They might be leveling alts (other classes, etc) or they might be new players. There have always been people who continue to queue for dungeons in the lower levels of games. Now the timer may go up significantly, but I wouldn't call it "hard" to find a group. Especially with it being cross server, that will ensure there is a larger pool to draw from.

Its an MMO for gods sake.

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Originally Posted by GinTama

Its an MMO for gods sake.

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Well, I know players who solo but love to socialize in guildchat or generalchat. There are also folks who play MMOs just for the PVP so grouping is not an issue (although that doesn't apply here just yet).

SE makes the story line solo. People complain about having too much solo content in an MMO.
SE makes part of the story line group. People complain they needed to group up to do quest line.
-_- Can never win.

Hey, thanks for all the reply's, however I think allot of people have missed the point.

It has nothing to do with "Grouping" as the problem, but the "WAITING" to group.

Since, for those of you who remember when you levelled your first character, certain things are not even possible until you progress through the Story Line, affectively making my character stuck in a gimped state. (for example, still cannot hire a retainer at level 21)

I would love for the ENTIRE Story line to be GROUP... but only if I did not have to wait hours...

And think about this.... eventually the buzz of this latest release will die down.. and then what... new players / alts will have to wait even longer just to complete the level 20 Story Line; as everyone else is busy farming end-game content...


Anyway... guess it is what is, so I will make 17x level 20 classes on my char :)

And as for what game I played which doesn't force me to group... amm ALL OF THEM!

EQ2, WoW, SW:TOR, AION, AOC, RIFT just to name a few...
Got to max level, completed ALL STORY / LORE based quests SOLO, and then happily farmed End-Game content... IN A GROUP :P



(stupid 1000 character limit)

Instead of waiting on the duty finder try finding a group on your own server. You might find it is much faster than waiting in a queue. Or even join a guild, questing LS group, or make some friends in game. If you are dps it is highly beneficial to befriend a tank, healer, or even both.

I don't think the problem is that players are forced to do group content to progress in the story. I think the problem lies in the fact that dungeons are not a viable source of exp, and there is no value in the gear inside the early dungeons. The real problem is that there is no replay value in the instances so ppl only do them once and never go back. This is a huge problem that I believe will make instance story quests even more frustrating in the future.

Join a helpful Free Company on your server. Whenever I need a duty group, I just ask my guild and I get an instant group...no waiting. This is a social game...socialize. :)

I see you play in Odin. If you're stuck in the dungeon I do not care to do them again. /tell me in game and we can group. I play tank and can get a healer and other in my FC. ^^

Find a tank or healer, and group up with them. Usually you either get 5-6 minute queue or insta queue. I always help anyone who needs an extra run as well, because the bosses are fun.. I play scholar

I do feel your pain
When I had to make sastasha I waited for 2-3 hours
I asked on the chat, nothing, I asked on the free company, nothing , and this was on behemoth (this server is locked for character creation since launch week)

As he said, I got nothing against grouping, but if such tactic brings a halt to my fun or even make me stressed then I will condemn it

Been stuck with stone vigil for 4 days now, well maybe 2 and a half. Power interruptions. Ugh.

options is never a bad thing, its upto people if they wish to group up to level with, i did this with wow and was a blast, but do i think the option if people want to do stuff in their own time is wrong? hell no, people play mmos as they wish to play a game and be immersed in its world, forcing their hand is never good, you cant force people, nor should any one force your self, options is always good.