is stupid how i have to cry and beg to tanks, healers and mages to pass when a disciple of war item drops...
why cant dragoons need anything on wanderers palace?
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09-06-2013, 10:34 PMDrFleshwhy cant dragoons need anything on wanderers palace?
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09-06-2013, 11:13 PMFoullacy
Those pieces are meant for Monks. Monks can't use your pieces because the armor is higher. You're suppose to be a "plate" class. Disc of War items are for monks and bards. (str/dex)
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09-06-2013, 11:25 PMCingen
We can't roll need on the heavier armor gear either even though it stated Lancer in the classes.. It's basically bugged :/
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09-06-2013, 11:27 PMIfritRebornProblem is those pieces are also tank gear, what use does a Dragoon have with Parry? Are they an off-off tank? I feel sorry for Dragoons, some "pass" on those types of gear because the tank needs them and they get diddly squatQuote:
Originally Posted by Foullacy
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09-07-2013, 12:53 AMDrFleshwe cant roll need on plate items either :eQuote:
Originally Posted by Foullacy
10 runs and i didn't even see 1 item that i can need -
09-07-2013, 01:17 AMSygmaelle
Just stack tomes and buy your gear, the manly Dragoon way.
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09-07-2013, 05:46 PMMisutorarui cant "NEED" on a gear that give +Critical Change, i get it simple becoz the Tank have better EQ or he is mercy and my Greed roll luckily win over the two magic classQuote:
Originally Posted by IfritReborn
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09-07-2013, 06:12 PMnemein
lol why am I not surprised yet again another bug on this game and even worse its with my class ..... I had this problem with a lvl 32 dungeon couldn't need on my gear the tank got it all and it all had crit.... a tank shouldn't be able to need on crit gear at all, I also don't understand why in this game when there is 1 roll for a class to play because of the lack of talent trees they can need on others gear lol why is dragoons gear tied in with the tanks gear 1 is tank other is dps ....
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09-08-2013, 02:01 AMMelopahn
I have seen multiple items that are Disc Of War and have stats for a dragoon that a dragoon has rolled on in Wanderers Palace, you just are unlucky.
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09-08-2013, 04:32 AMGunngeir
I hope they fix it soon. started to think game was bugged because i couldn't need on a couple of items that said LNC and DRG could wear
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09-08-2013, 07:04 AMMicha_lol
you can roll just fine on your gear ... if u cant its not meant for dragoon ... simple as that
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09-08-2013, 01:45 PMMisutoraru
a Head Piece have LNC/DRG listed on
give +STR +VIT +Critical Rate is not meant for DPS?
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09-09-2013, 11:08 AMMisutoraru
the loot system is so broken
today a Scale Mail Armor drop
no parry no critical
only STR VIT and Determination
my fd Gladiator cant need it
i Lancer cant need it -
09-09-2013, 02:49 PMAedra
You can roll need on GLA PLD MRD WAR DRG piece, which is intended for dragoon.
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09-09-2013, 06:37 PMSpears
Ummm, you can't :)
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09-11-2013, 02:54 AMIldarionCannot loot LNC/DRG gear as LNC/DRG.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ccd5e8f6bc.jpg
These gloves are clearly lancer gear in my opinion especially since GLA and MAR (and their jobs) have ther own set of specific gear. However i just couldn't need this. even though its better. this was the second time it happened to me :s
in the screenshot i had already pressed greed. -
09-11-2013, 03:31 AMRhazeCain
If I can wax philosophical for a minute...
Here we a concept of which players "Need" an item and which do not. And we have 2 ways of determining that: The system's way, and the players' way. They will not match, and neither will players way match other players all the time.
So you will always have some kind of situation where system thinks someone should or shouldn't roll "Need" and some or all players disagree. Other MMOs I've played just allowed everyone to roll Need - let the players sort it out that way. But SE thinks we need training wheels I guess? It's not an entirely bad idea, but it will always have this drawback.
That said, this particular instance is completely insane and needs to be fixed. Really? GLD/MRD get two sets of gear (GLD/MRD, and GLD/MRD/LNC) that they can roll Need on while LNC gets zero? (As I understand it, the "Disciple of War" gear can be rolled "Need" by PUG/ARC but not LNC. Could be wrong on that, but unlikely.)
As someone who plays PLD and WAR primarily, I can assure you that I rarely want anything that says LNC on it. Also, the GLD/MRD/LNC stuff seems like it was specifically made with Lancer in mind - to then not allow them to roll "Need" on it is just mind boggling. -
09-11-2013, 07:21 AMDrFleshyou are right, according to SEQuote:
Originally Posted by RhazeCain
dow item with dex --> archer
dow item with str --> pugilist
GLA PLD MRD WAR DRG with parry/vit --> marauder/gladiator
GLA PLD MRD WAR DRG with str/det --> marauder/gladiator
GLA MRD PLD WAR --> marauder/gladiator
LNC DRG --> lancer/dragoon
this needs to be fixed and fast :S -
09-11-2013, 11:22 AMKogaDrake
I had a drg NEED roll on the pld drg war chain chest in AK, so it seems they are working on it, but may take a little bit of time to work it out.
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09-14-2013, 06:57 AMVelosI've had this same issue in Braflox's Longstop. Any scale pieces that drop, I cannot need on while the tanks can. I had heard about this being an issue for LNC/DRG even before the game officially launched. Tanks already have their own set of gear that only they can need on, and I'd be fine if they could also need on scale gear, since it has decent def. But it would also be nice if DRG could Need on it along with them. Especially since I think the steel scale gear looks really good on a drg at that level :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ildarion