How to "Pull" enemies as a Gladiator

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09-06-2013, 03:35 PM
Makki91

How to "Pull" enemies as a Gladiator

Hi all,

I'm pretty new at multiplayer dungeons, but was given a great briefing by my party members (thanks again for being so awesome!). However, I'm still a bit lost as to how to "pull" hoards of enemies. Any tips?

Thanks!
09-06-2013, 04:00 PM
Veillette

Well, basically hit the enemies and get their attention before your party member does. Also keep the hate meter of all enemies filled on you (it's the bar below the class icon on the left of the party list name). Earlier on you can't do much besides running in headfirst and start whacking on each of them (at least get the two-hit combo in, that should last for a bit), but along the levels you'll get Flash which will increase the hate meter of all enemies around you. When you get this, make sure to apply at least once (twice if needed) to every mob you "pull". There is also shield lob which you get by doing the lv15 class quest, which you can use to "pull" distant enemies or those that you lost hate and decide to go after your party member.

I don't play a Paladin myself, though, so I'm not sure about the details later on.
09-06-2013, 04:24 PM
Babylyn90

Hey Makki,

I would highly suggest reading this Basic Tanking Guide to help you understand not just pulling, but other aspects of multi-mob dungeon fights.
09-06-2013, 04:28 PM
Somi

Veillette is quite correct. You want to Shield Lob the enemy you want to fight first (advanced: Macro it so it puts a 1 on the target). You can then run farther in, if possible and use your first Flash. Do your enmity rotation and use Flash again. Depending on how much damage and healing is going on you can repeat this. Do more damage if you're good on enmity. There is also a list displaying enmity by icons and if you target one mob, it'll say under a person's class icon what their hate level is like.

Anyway, just read your skills going forward. Keep a look out for provoke.
09-06-2013, 04:32 PM
CrisGer

We have a thread doing on tips on Gladiator and Tanking here:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-Dungeons-101.
09-06-2013, 04:48 PM
Shori

I understand the problem with Gladiators compared to Marauder as there isnt much to draw in the mob from a distance. What you can try instead are one-use items such as bombs where you then select an area on the ground nearby the mobs you want (also useful if there is more than one and you dont want them straying to the DD/Heal roles :)
09-06-2013, 06:43 PM
Makki91

Thanks for your suggestions everyone!
09-06-2013, 08:46 PM
Bixby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shori

I understand the problem with Gladiators compared to Marauder as there isnt much to draw in the mob from a distance.

Marauders have Tomahawk. Gladiators have Shield Lob. They're completely equal.
09-06-2013, 09:01 PM
Shori

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bixby

Marauders have Tomahawk. Gladiators have Shield Lob. They're completely equal.

Shield Lob is weaker. IDK why SE decided that :/
09-06-2013, 09:29 PM
Bixby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shori

Shield Lob is weaker. IDK why SE decided that :/

Huh. Right you are. Never noticed that.

Not that much weaker, though, and certainly not enough for GLD/PLD to have problems pulling.
09-06-2013, 09:48 PM
fixitman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bixby

Huh. Right you are. Never noticed that.

Not that much weaker, though, and certainly not enough for GLD/PLD to have problems pulling.

Yep, works well for pulling, but needs a flash or two directly after to get good enmity. It seems pretty useless for regaining enmity on an uncooperative mob though.

How well does Tomahawk do for regaining enmity? I haven't started MRD yet, so I have no idea how well Tomahawk works.
09-06-2013, 10:23 PM
Bixby

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixitman

Yep, works well for pulling, but needs a flash or two directly after to get good enmity. It seems pretty useless for regaining enmity on an uncooperative mob though.

How well does Tomahawk do for regaining enmity? I haven't started MRD yet, so I have no idea how well Tomahawk works.

About as well as shield lob. With enmity multipliers taken into account, it's 360 enmity potency vs 370 (or 720 vs 780 with Shield Oath/Defiance). Generally enough to get something back from low in grade healing aggro, but not enough to over come bigger heals or any real DPS. Two or three tomahawks can sometimes get something back, but that's a lot of TP to blow, so I'll usually just run over to grab it with melee if the first doesn't work (until I stop being lazy and get Provoke so I can slot that).
09-07-2013, 06:22 AM
SkyRobo1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makki91

Hi all,

I'm pretty new at multiplayer dungeons, but was given a great briefing by my party members (thanks again for being so awesome!). However, I'm still a bit lost as to how to "pull" hoards of enemies. Any tips?

Thanks!

Shield Lob - Flash - Provoke (This 3 skills should allow you to Pull mobs)

Fast Blade - Savage Blade - Rage of Halone (This combo attack will allow you to keep enmity..Just cycle through the enemies to keep enmity on all mobs on you..This also helps if you dont want to rely on Flash too much.)