Need help with leveling. something, anything.

I am playing this game with a group of 3 other people. I am currently level 35, 2 others are lvl 36(with more levels in crafting by a lot) and another 1 is pretty much 50.

I have 2 problems, 1, i dont even like my class as much as i thought i would(WHM) and i really want to just roll a bard.

problem 2) unfortunately i am by far the slowest leveler because i cant just focus on this game constantly, when i play i always have to do something else, i cant say.... play this game for hours straight just powering through levels like they can. honestly its just hard for me to keep up with them, and honestly kind of hard to get the motivation to keep playing.

what do you guys do to level? any "secrets" to speed through it? any patterns you do? what keeps you motivated to keep on grinding through experience?

Do you do your hunting log objectives? There's a tonne of exp there.

it seems like for me to do my hunting log i have to go out of my way, and i think im only on the 2nd log, which seems a little behind for my level

Fates are faster then questing if you just want to power through it.

WHat keeps a majority of us going is how much me love the game (when we can get on) and the people we play with. It's the experience you get out of the game, not what the game give you. You need to make it fun for yourself. You don;t want this to feel like a "job" that you have to do. We're all gamers here, some more hardcore than others, some with a lot more free time than the rest. Just take it easy and enjoy yourself. fates are fun and can level you up fast, there's guildheist or leves. There's a lot of ways to speed up the process and take your friends along for the ride as well.

You should really do the hunting logs. Don't worry about them being "out of the way" (i never found them to be) They give a huge chunk of exp. When i've been leveling my side classes, the hunting logs are probably the biggest source of easy exp i've found. You get a decent chunk for each entry you do and then a big whooping chunk for finishing a list. If you are behind on the logs, doing them all up to your current level should really give you a nice boost.

Also remember every class has its own hunting log, so unlike quests which can run out, you can hunt with every class and get that awesome exp.

Aside from that...fate grinding. I've been doing it a bit and I'm pretty bored of it already. It is good exp though. Maybe do some for a bit then take a break and do something else so you don't get burned out on them.

Grinding that 2nd and 3rd class is brutal. Hunting logs for sure, then just repeat levequests at or below your level, I was doing level 10's at level 13-14, decent and quick exp. then catch a fate if it popped in the area I was in. Main story line and dungeons help too. But they are going to have to do something for the basic "go to way" of leveling outside of these options.

The point of leveling is it's the vast majority of the game, and teaches people how to not only play their job, but play it from reflex.

If there was a way to "skip ahead" to catch up with people that play more than you, why arne't they doing it, furthering the gap?

The whole point of hte game is to go on an adventure, it's not just about the destination. Leveling isn't an obstacle between you and fun. Fun can be had while leveling. Go for a walk, grab another job, look around, shop, craft, quest, adventure. Have you been to all 3 cities? What about some outlying areas? Have you stopped to look at the scenery all around you? Talked to the npc's? They were all programmed with chatter and banter and stories for a reason, not to be completely ignored.

If you want to feel distracted, get into a FATE party and pay more attention to the reason the FATE is there than just grinding on the mobs. You might find it's enough of a distraction to satiate your ADD. :)

I'm level 38 and never done the hunting log. I have a feeling if I had I would be 40 something by now.

Level 30-40 is best spent in Costa Del Sol and Caerthas Highlands. In costa del sol get a timer on It's not Lupus (Cancer), between 30 and 37 it nets about 12,000 exp for a Gold Completion. Right near there is Return of the King, it nets way less exp but it pops constantly and rewards bomb ash and decent GC seals. Right near there is a fate with bulls and a fate with crabs, they net over 7k exp. Slightly up the coast from their is an escort fate. The trick is to stick around long enough for cancer to pop then you chain out return of the king, the crab fate, the bull fates, and then go up the coast and do the escort fate. When everything is done and on timer, go into town and pick up some leves (do the quests there too). I went from 32-36 in one sit doing this... Then I moved to caerthas highlands and did all the quests I could (main story line taking me here as well) and I went from 36-38 in the same night. Also because I knew the TOD of cancer I kept porting back to costa del sol everytime cancer was about to come up for that 10k+ exp.

fully uncovering maps gives a good bit of exp too, though i think it might be % based and not a flat number. it is probably best saved until your late 40's if it is indeed % based. i was getting like 27,000 exp for fully uncovering a map at 48/49.

Always do your Hunting Logs, both for class and for GC. Get your friends to help you with them so you can tackle the higher level ones if you're under level to solo them.

DO NOT SKIP THE SIDEQUESTS. I skipped some earlier on hoping to use them for another class later on. Big mistake. I'm consistently ending up under level for the next story quests and have to end up FATE grinding or doing dungeon runs to catch up in XP.

You can do FATEs to fill in the void if you run out of story quests and are waiting to do a dungeon.

It sounds very obvious that you dont enjoy the easy game structure this game has to offer, if you are having trouble staying modivated then i think thats an obvious red flag of you not liking the game lol but i have empathy for you because the game rrally is terribly easy.

When leveling your main class dont do every side mission leave some for other classes a rule of thumb I use is if a quest is 2 or more lvls below mine I save it for later. Guildhest and levequests help and also do the quests for GC seals as it kills two birds with one stone. Finally work on your hunting log while picking up as many fates as you can along the way. I forgot to mention you can rerun the story 4 person instances to also give exp and a boost in your gear.

Another way to help level is to work on your crafting so as to be able to make your own gear it will save you lots of money in the long run.

A small piece of advice regarding the hunting log.

When I first started them, I tried to do them in order, according to level. What I found, like you, is that they seem to take me all over the place. So, what I started to do is ignore the hunting log until I was about 3 levels away from the highest level for it. So level 17, for the 10-20 hunting log. Then, hover over each entry for it to tell you the zone and area. Concentrate on all the mobs in one zone, usually, it's laid out in such a way that you'll progress through the zone, until you're close to the next zone that has hunting log mobs. Go into that zone and finish them off. It seems to go by much faster this way and you see the xp in huge chunks instead of small dribbles, feels like a bigger accomplishment :D

I try to do that with everything, take it in chunks and do it all in one fell swoop. There's a small amount of time preparing, then the big chunks of xp, trailing off at the end as you finish up. Gives a pretty good sense of satisfaction.

For FATEs, try to find an area that has 3 or 4 that pop up in the zone. You can usually wander around the zone going from FATE to FATE and grabbing chunks of xp and seals.

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Originally Posted by frychikn

honestly its just hard for me to keep up with them, and honestly kind of hard to get the motivation to keep playing.

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Maybe the game just isn't for you? Not a bad thing, but if you don't really enjoy playing, then why do it? For me, part of the joy of this game is that i'm not stuck on one path, if i get bored with leveling my main, i can go try a totally different class on the same character, go gather, craft, and in the future even more options will open up (housing, pvp, etc). Even just hanging out in game helps sometimes.


Bard is quite different than WHM, not a healer at all from what i know. If you still want to heal, scholar could work, even though it's a bit more work for you, plus arcanist plays a lot differently. No harm in trying.

To speed it up, i've heard people fate grind, and it's fast and easy if you get in a group. That sort of thing is mind numbing to me though, especially in groups. I prefer to wander into fates and do them in smaller gatherings solo. Don't forget though that dungeons and fates can scale you, so your friends can always run ones that you are right for, instead of trying to race to 50.

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Originally Posted by rabbitzero

Maybe the game just isn't for you? Not a bad thing, but if you don't really enjoy playing, then why do it? For me, part of the joy of this game is that i'm not stuck on one path, if i get bored with leveling my main, i can go try a totally different class on the same character, go gather, craft, and in the future even more options will open up (housing, pvp, etc). Even just hanging out in game helps sometimes.


Bard is quite different than WHM, not a healer at all from what i know. If you still want to heal, scholar could work, even though it's a bit more work for you, plus arcanist plays a lot differently.

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maybe its not... i dont know. its not like i hate the game, infact i think its kind of cool, and it looks amazing. i dont know, i started playing marvel heroes today, and having a blast leveling. i dont get it.

i rather play ff14 because everybody i know is, and almost nobody i know is currently playing marvel heroes.

Specifically for me its more for the story and the world. I absolutely love the game and like powering through because it helps me continue on in the story lines. Not to mention that some of the quests can be downright funny.

Its unfortunate that you are running into this problem. I'd say what is the real reason why you want to play? Is it just to play with your three friends? If you don't enjoy the game, you can't exactly force yourself to like it :(

Either way, if you need help with any of your dungeons, I don't mind helping out. Now only if we were on the same server ^^;

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Originally Posted by frychikn

maybe its not... i dont know. its not like i hate the game, infact i think its kind of cool, and it looks amazing. i dont know, i started playing marvel heroes today, and having a blast leveling. i dont get it.

i rather play ff14 because everybody i know is, and almost nobody i know is currently playing marvel heroes.

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Maybe you need to stop playing keepup with your friends if that's causing the issue. You said you liked marvels but no one plays it. If you played XIV at your own speed would you have more fun? Your friends still can join you in the lower dungeons.

I wish people would stop saying "do your hunting log". The hunting log only gets you so much until it caps out, it's not a solve-all solution.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

(snip: lots of talk about chaining the costa del sol leves)

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That must be nice.. except on my server, I can't even get to a freshly-popped FATE before it's mostly completed by zerg parties, that's how fast they go down. That's not the case on your server? :P Clearly I chose poorly.

I would say just play at your own pace. Power levelling is never fun IMO, as you don't learn the intricacies of your character, nor do you truly appreciate how your character has grown throughout the game.

You could also convince your friends to try out other classes while playing with you. It could make the experience of this game that much more enjoyable in a group.

Also just inputting it's a multiclass system so you don't need to reroll :-) If you wanna try Bard just change your mainhand.

thanks for the help everybody. i think today im gonna try to gain at least 2 levels and see how i feel from there.

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Originally Posted by Breladine

I wish people would stop saying "do your hunting log". The hunting log only gets you so much until it caps out, it's not a solve-all solution.
That must be nice.. except on my server, I can't even get to a freshly-popped FATE before it's mostly completed by zerg parties, that's how fast they go down. That's not the case on your server? :P Clearly I chose poorly.

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They are zerged because of Fate trains. The trick is to FIND the fate train. And move with it, or join someones group. Once you find the fate train you flow with them, they are the ones zerging the fate and if you are with them you'll be part of that equation. BEcause it's pretty random I find the train to move quite fluidly. Travel with the largest pack, they generally know what they are doing. Secondly keep track of timers. Cancer is the only fate there you don't want to miss (20k exp or something like that). It pops every hour just about so stick with the train till Cancer spawns and kill it. Then port to coerthas highlands and find that train and do Svara with them. Then port back and do cancer, resne repeat. And that's just a simple explanation.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

Level 30-40 is best spent in Costa Del Sol and Caerthas Highlands. In costa del sol get a timer on It's not Lupus (Cancer), .

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Im a noob. What do you mean "get a timer on"? you can preset fate timers? How?

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Originally Posted by Mayin

Im a noob. What do you mean "get a timer on"? you can preset fate timers? How?

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Um no... What I mean is you manual make note of it... E.g. If cancer goes down at noon, time it yourself to see when it comes back up again. Then always be back after that interval to do it again.