Selling an item of my gear set...no warning?

Hi

Apologies in advance if already asked.

I have sold items out of my Armour once or twice and i have found that the system does not stop me selling any item that is part of a gear set. FYI I think it was a level 1 item which you can not convert to Materia (which was why i sold it).

I had to redo the gear set for one of my crafts while laughing at what i had done! Of course once you sell it the gear set section on your character says item missing. If you have removed the main weapon you can not do anything but redo gear set.

Have I missed something or is there some simple and easy way to tell when u are trying to sell an item that is part of any one of your gear sets?

EDIT: BTW i know shop has buyback but i had exited shop before i realised what i had done.

EDIT 2: this would also go when coveting items to materia. You also get no warning.

You should know what you have on gear set, there is no way to tell them apart for other gear.

You can go back & use buyback so long as you don't leave the area, i.e zone.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

You should know what you have on gear set, there is no way to tell them apart for other gear.

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lol - while my memory is not the worst and i do kind of agree with you....remembering what items are on all 12 gear sets currently, when all are at different levels, is not the easiest thing for me. As well sometimes lower items are on to spirit bind them.

This was requested numerous times since early betas and if I'm not mistaken it was already confirmed as passed onto devs to evaluate if it would be possible to implement some kind of indications / markings of the items included in the sets however apart of that nothing mare was confirmed for sure. Till then - just be carefull with what you'se selling or rather keep your stuff with retainers or FC chests etc.

Shouldn't be to hard to place an icon on it or something or just a number that is the same as you number your sets.

I think
- Icon would work as numbers would get messy if the same piece was on multiple gear.
- How they do icon so you know which multiple gear sets an item is on would be interesting as opposed to just attached to one of your various gear sets
- Having said that knowing which gear set they are attached to would save a lot of time as if an item is attached to one gear set and you have to trawl thru a few gear sets to find could be frustrating.

There was something from Square about icons due to memory issues.

EDIT: i guess a filter type arrangement could work in with this. ie show items on all gear sets vs set number 1, 2, 3 etc

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Originally Posted by Loxius

Shouldn't be to hard to place an icon on it or something or just a number that is the same as you number your sets.

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Well it's not har to slap the icon there, the "hard" bit is to have a system to keep track of all of it at all times which takes indeed game resources plus development time.

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Originally Posted by HEC

Well it's not har to slap the icon there, the "hard" bit is to have a system to keep track of all of it at all times which takes indeed game resources plus development time.

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I know in WoW, if you used outfitter, it added the name of the item set that the item belonged to, to the tooltip. Don't see why they couldn't do that here. At least I think it was WoW...

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Originally Posted by HEC

Well it's not har to slap the icon there, the "hard" bit is to have a system to keep track of all of it at all times which takes indeed game resources plus development time.

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Development resources, sure, but it shouldn't take game resources. The system already knows when a gear set is missing one of its components. In other words, your items are already flagged as belonging to a specific gear set. All that's left to do is give the gear icon a 5x5 flat color overlay to make this flag visible to the player. They already have the overlay system in place to display materia slots so that's not an issue either.

It's likely one of the more simple things to do, it just isn't high on their priority list. Personally, I agree that a pop-up when selling them and a small gear set indication overlay - even if it doesn't display which set the item belongs to - would be great. But there are probably more pressing matters when it comes to the interface right now.

Hello,

The development team is aware of the situation and the requests for some type of icon to indicate which equipment is part of a gear set.

They are currently looking into an easy to see method, including the icon request, to prevent accidental selling of equipment. Once we have some more information, we'll be sure to let you know!

Please also add the option to just include another item in the gear set in the case you can't equip it anymore. Currently you have to equip each piece of equipment again and save/update the set from it...

I think that any items in a saved gearset, should not show up in inventory, just like worn items do not. So if you have several different sets for different classes, they won't even show up in inventory unless you change the set.

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Originally Posted by Jyhnnox

Please also add the option to just include another item in the gear set in the case you can't equip it anymore. Currently you have to equip each piece of equipment again and save/update the set from it...

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Or rather, just equip all the items that are present, leaving out those that aren't. Keep the warning message that one or more items are missing.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello,

The development team is aware of the situation and the requests for some type of icon to indicate which equipment is part of a gear set.

They are currently looking into an easy to see method, including the icon request, to prevent accidental selling of equipment. Once we have some more information, we'll be sure to let you know!

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Something similar to the prompt we get when purchasing a weapon higher level than our class would be perfect. Just a warning stating "This item is part of a gear set. Proceed with sale?"

I suspect this has been mentioned as I don't believe for a second I'm the only one getting regularly pissed off by this.

When turning in levequest items, especially crafting leves can we please have the turn in NOT take items from my armoury chest ?! I would love items to be taken ONLY from my inventory. I keep handing in gear for crafting leves or similar and have on occasion handed an item over thats part of a gear set without realising. It really gets my goat ! lol

Thanks

You should really know what you have equipped. It takes 5 seconds to display sets that aren't equipped.

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Originally Posted by Brises

I think that any items in a saved gearset, should not show up in inventory, just like worn items do not. So if you have several different sets for different classes, they won't even show up in inventory unless you change the set.

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Items in your saved gearsets are in the armory, not inventory. I know this because sometimes, to avoid losing a drop from a treasure box, I move armor temporarily to inventory when I run out of space in armory, then later realize that I disabled a gearset by doing it, because unless there is a feature I am unaware of that allows you to equip armor from inventory, gearsets do not equip armor from the inventory. You have to move items to armory in order to add to gearsets.

If you craft items, they do go to inventory but you can select an option in config to make crafting armor go to armory when crafted instead.

Edit, it would be cool to have a feature like the crafting option, to allow drop armor from TB or fights to go to inventory if you choose.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello,

The development team is aware of the situation and the requests for some type of icon to indicate which equipment is part of a gear set.

They are currently looking into an easy to see method, including the icon request, to prevent accidental selling of equipment. Once we have some more information, we'll be sure to let you know!

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it doesnt have to be a complicated system.. some are asking for number that match ur different gear set and so on, but like others have suggested this could be conflict if i have the same gear on differents set..

ONE icon on everything that is part of my set would be enough, yea more wouldbe nice but between this (checking my 6 different classes to see what i can sell of no, MULTIPLE times is tooooo time consuming) and no way of SORT... managing your inventory can be a headache...
hope this come with the next patch.. :)

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Originally Posted by MStowastiqVahlshdeh

Items in your saved gearsets are in the armory, not inventory. I know this because sometimes, to avoid losing a drop from a treasure box, I move armor temporarily to inventory when I run out of space in armory, then later realize that I disabled a gearset by doing it, because unless there is a feature I am unaware of that allows you to equip armor from inventory, gearsets do not equip armor from the inventory. You have to move items to armory in order to add to gearsets.

If you craft items, they do go to inventory but you can select an option in config to make crafting armor go to armory when crafted instead.

Edit, it would be cool to have a feature like the crafting option, to allow drop armor from TB or fights to go to inventory if you choose.

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Inventory, armory, yadda, yadda. Armory is a category of inventory and we are talking about gearsets so I'm pretty sure everyone understood me.

Currently, sometimes I get an error message saying "One of the equipment item is missing" and I can't switch around and I don't even know which one! The only solution is to RE-Create the entire gear set from scratch!

Can the devs please at least let us know what is missing?

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Originally Posted by Iggywiggy

Currently, sometimes I get an error message saying "One of the equipment item is missing" and I can't switch around and I don't even know which one! The only solution is to RE-Create the entire gear set from scratch!

Can the devs please at least let us know what is missing?

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I experimented with that. The only time it really says that is when your weapon is missing. Also, you can see which items are missing by right-clicking the gearset and pick "view items" (or similar, don't remember the exact wording).

The only thing they should add is to allow you to actually replace the weapon of the gearset. Because when any other item is missing, it is just skipped, while items present are equipped.

Greetings!

We have some updated information from Hiroshi Minagawa regarding gear set UI, as well as making it easier to replace items that are missing from a gear set.

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi_Minagawa

In order to guard against players accidentally storing or selling items that belong to gear sets, we will be placing a mark on the equipment icon for items that are registered to gear sets.

This feature will be implemented in patch 2.1, and as you know thiis is coming real soon, so hang in there just a little bit longer.

Also, though there are generally only a few cases where items are missing from a gear set, we are planning to display something along the lines of the below confirmation when equipment is replaced:

The “XXXX sword” registered to this gear set cannot be found in your Armoury Chest. Would you like to replace it with a different piece of equipment?

(Replace) (Search) (Cancel)

If you select cancel, it won't change your equipment.

If the main weapon for a gear set is missing, we feel that as long as we can avoid situations where the gear set has to be deleted, then it will be okay to change equipment in other slots normally and update the gear set.

In addition to these adjustments we are proceeding to make other minor improvements to gear sets and retainers; however, it's a bit difficult to show our plans with only text on the forums, so once everything is finalized I will be sure to share with you all.

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi_Minagawa

When we were working on patch 2.1's item sort feature, we expanded and improved the programming so that other various item-related processes could occur.

With these improvement, after patch 2.1 we plan on implementing convenience features that players currently spend time doing such as an option to replace items missing from gear sets, making it possible to search for where you put your item, and store full gear sets on your retainer.

*The content of the above examples have not been finalized and they are only things that we are looking into implementing.

We are in the midst of talking to the programmer to discuss the order in which these can be implemented, so I will let you all know later in what order these are implemented and in what patch!

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

Greetings!

We have some updated information from Hiroshi Minagawa regarding gear set UI, as well as making it easier to replace items that are missing from a gear set.

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HOW AWESOME!

Superb QoL update in that area. Well done Minagawa & team!

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Originally Posted by cotti

Superb QoL update in that area. Well done Minagawa & team!

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They're not done yet and who knows when or if all of them will be implemented as suggested. I sure hope so. Maybe i'm just being pessimistic but let's hope things go well. I'm hoping.

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Originally Posted by WHS

They're not done yet and who knows when or if all of them will be implemented as suggested. I sure hope so. Maybe i'm just being pessimistic but let's hope things go well. I'm hoping.

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"patch 2.1"

yes the when is a real mystery.

The missing item notification really should have been implemented right from the beginning. Precise, specific error messages is like computer science 101, last I heard.

But I welcome the changes, obviously. Still sad that there's been absolutely no information whatsoever on the add-on/plug-in side of things, though. :3

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

Greetings!

We have some updated information from Hiroshi Minagawa regarding gear set UI, as well as making it easier to replace items that are missing from a gear set.

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This is fantastic....now...how about this..? :

Since I had my PLD AF in 1.0, I went to go and re do all the quests in 2.0. I had some darklight gear at the time of doing these quests. So when doing the quest where you go around and pick up the different pieces of your AF...I noticed that it actually allowed me to pick up duplicates.

So, now I have some duplicate AF gear that I cannot store (because the original is stored, and can't have more than one) and I cannot sell(obviously) or even discard! I am stuck with a few dead slots in my inventory because of this. How am I supposed to get rid of duplicate AF?

Had I known it'd actually let me acquire a second set of the same AF...I would have been more careful...

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Originally Posted by Zfz

Still sad that there's been absolutely no information whatsoever on the add-on/plug-in side of things, though. :3

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I thought we'd see the kits pop up around 6 months after official release...?