SE needs to implement an AFK timer. Period. The reason why the servers are full is that people have realized that they will not get kicked out if they leave the game running. This is also the reason why the que system is not working correctly, where you will get in a que, and then go to login and it states that the world is full. This is the reason why the login servers are going down constantly because everyone is hitting the login servers repeatedly due to error 1017. Every other game that I can think of has an AFK timer of some sort. Why the devs did not think about this is beyond me, but I hope they put something in place. And if you flame me because of the suggestion (which by now i assume it is considered beating a dead horse), then you are part of the reason the rest of us can not have an enjoyable game experience, so thanks.
One solution to end the server woes...
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09-03-2013, 10:54 PMAllcoastOne solution to end the server woes...
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09-03-2013, 10:56 PMc2pbroUhh!! You're only like the 100000s person to come up with this idea ... *facepalm*Quote:
Originally Posted by Allcoast
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09-03-2013, 10:58 PMGarnett
LOL
Or just add more server capacity... oh that costs money? sorry i must have been dreaming... -
09-03-2013, 10:58 PMAllcoast
Hence the "Beating a dead horse"
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09-03-2013, 11:00 PMNasheenEuhm...they are adding server capacity with the fix?Quote:
Originally Posted by Garnett
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09-03-2013, 11:04 PMboredomisboringI actually think it's getting worse too. :/ I used to be able to get in after about 30-45 mins, now I usually can't get in at all. Also, during off-peak hours, I'd be able to log in without difficulty. Now, the worlds are full even in the middle of the night or in the early morning--I'm thinking a lot of people are staying logged in for fear of experiencing what... most of us are experiencing. @_@Quote:
Originally Posted by Allcoast
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09-03-2013, 11:05 PMGarnettYes only after they sold however many times more copies of the game than their servers can bare lol. They have money now, the money that we paid for the game, so that they can now go add servers to let us start playing the game. See how it works?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasheen
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09-03-2013, 11:06 PMBanryuu
I wont lie, I finally made it in game but I will not be logging out. With that being said I will not go AFK, I will simply pee in a container and not move from this game.
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09-03-2013, 11:07 PMc2pbroBlame the PS3-players ... if everybody would just log out when they finished playing we wouldn't have any problems. Well ... men are egoists ..Quote:
Originally Posted by boredomisboring
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09-03-2013, 11:08 PMTibuant
Adding Server Capacity without kicking AFK players won't change anything. AFKing started as a way to stay in with crappy server capacity, and raising the server capacity won't be convincing enough to some players: we've all had troubles getting on the past week. The players who get on will still AFK, there will just be more AFKers.
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09-03-2013, 11:09 PMhamsterarcher
Been trying to log in for about 6 hours now. at one point i even got queue 20th and then kicked for 1017 immediately after
I honestly think we wouldn't have this 1017 problem if people logged out properly, But ah well hopefully they will fix this properly tomorrow -
09-03-2013, 11:09 PMBanryuuBlame PS3 users? I take offense since I am a PS3 player. I, for one, will not allow my system so remain on for more than an hour if I'm not playing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by c2pbro
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09-03-2013, 11:10 PMc2pbroOk, blame 3/4 of the PS3 players ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Banryuu
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09-03-2013, 11:11 PMBacongamer
This will all be a faint memory about a month from now. When all those 30 days free subscriptions run out, a good chunk of "MMO Tourists" will bail, and then the masses will go to complaining how empty their worlds are. I'm agitated by all of this congestion and restrictions, but I'm semi-glad this game hasn't made me a permanent fixture at my desk just yet. Semi.
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09-03-2013, 11:12 PMBanryuuOnly teasing but it would make more sense to leave a PC on for hours compared to a PS3, cause PS3's have an active afk timer. If the system remains on for more than a certain time period without action it will automatically shut off.Quote:
Originally Posted by c2pbro
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09-03-2013, 11:12 PMGarnettNot if you add sufficient capacity so that anyone who wants to afk can afk, and everyone else can still log in. For example: FFXI. There are countless afkers in FFXI, bazaaring, leeching exp, or just not bothering to log out. In my 10 years of FFXI, I've never came across a server full issue, ever, even in the heydays of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibuant
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09-03-2013, 11:14 PMBanryuuSimply make the AFK timer about..15 minutes. This way I can take a poop without getting DC'dQuote:
Originally Posted by Garnett
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09-03-2013, 11:15 PMc2pbroOh you're right. Forgot about that ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Banryuu
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09-03-2013, 11:18 PMfixitman
Yoshida hinted at looking into an AFK kick system. He stated that the reason they aren't doing anything with it right now is because he wants to devote all resources to getting the new hardware going, and controlling server stability. I wouldn't be surprised if such a system is put into place in a few weeks.
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09-03-2013, 11:19 PMAllcoast
Server capacity will not fix this.
They could institute a system where if someone is afk, and someone else wants to get in, the person with the longest afk time will get kicked, maybe with a notification message. Simple. Once the system goes in place, after a while, people will just logout, knowing they can log back in later. And give us a que system, a true one. I dont care if I am in slot 10,000. At least I know that I will get back in the game sometime and I can AFK the login when I know the ques is there and will log me in eventually. -
09-03-2013, 11:27 PMGarnettI'd rather the ability to log in instantly, whenever I want, regardless of how many ppl are afking. But hey, I admit maybe that's too high an expectation for this age, and FFXI was a jewel never to be seen again...Quote:
Originally Posted by Allcoast
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09-03-2013, 11:50 PMKarinarra
The problem with adding more capacity to servers or even adding additional servers without initiating a kick timer is simply this: more servers with more capacity = more people going afk and worlds remaining full. The problem is not solved in any way. Adding one week of free game time isn't going to make a jot of difference when you spend three weeks not being able to play. I finally got on line last night only to get kicked out due to error in the middle of the duty I finally got queued into. It's frustrating and while understandable for a brand new game, I feel that the powers that be aren't focusing on the proper issues.
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09-04-2013, 12:00 AMArriverderciDerp post. Yes blame the PS3 players for everything wrong in this game. It's annoying. Quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by c2pbro
I don't care if it's PS3 or PC. It's whoever the hell that is logged in all the time and never wanting to get off.
- Increase current server capacity.
- AFK system.
- More servers.
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09-04-2013, 12:28 AMAllcoastThis and have data centers that are not running these servers on Windows 95.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arriverderci
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09-04-2013, 12:40 AMKissker
try reading any of my posts or the thousands of others listed because of AFK kicker suggestions.
yes, Afk kick with Captcha needs to occur, but mostly they need to move players from servers with high congestion to lower.
The problem isn't just AFK - although they might eat up 1K slots.
Lets say each world has 10K slots to play on.
The problem isn't 10K AFK players, or even close to that- estimating 10%/1K afk
The real problem is 25K players made toons on that world, that only has 10K slots. So no matter what, what time, what event - over a "full server" (10K) is WAITING to log in, getting 1017.
Behemoth is one of those servers with "too many players to support" the only way to really fix this - is to move players (forcibly or via volunteer transfer, or simply ignore them and they will quit or move on) because 10K (or the max, whatever it is) are logging in fine -and "playing" - even if it's just AFKing. The "leftovers" are out of luck.