SCH Stat question

I've been leveling my ACN and have been putting points into INT but I am about to do my lvl 30 SCH quest and was wondering if you get a new set of attr points? Since technically ACN is a DD and SCH is a healer. Or will I have to grind the 10k GC seals and respec?

:DThanks in advance!

No unless Im missing something. You'll have to spend 10k seals to reroll, then 10k more if you ever want to go back. Seems like such a HUGE oversight to me

EDIT: if youre not going to switch back you can buy a reroll from your grand company for 10k seals

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Originally Posted by FrionielHope

No unless Im missing something. You'll have to spend 10k seals to reroll, then 10k more if you ever want to go back. Seems like such a HUGE oversight to me

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I dont plan on ever switching back but I need mind over INT

Yeah that is so dumb that if you wanna be a different job that you have to spend 10k GC points. This needs addressed for real.

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Originally Posted by billydata21

Yeah that is so dumb that if you wanna be a different job that you have to spend 10k GC points. This needs addressed for real.

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You can put your stat points into your main class and go from there. It is unfortunate that an ACN gets 2 advanced classes that use different stats. Be thankful you basically get a free extra lvl50, all you have to pay is 10k GC Seals.

Or you can just do 15:15 split. These points are not going to make or break a character, not even remotely close. For min/maxing purposes sure, but they should not decide a fight or gate you from content.

SE should change the INT trait to MND when SCH is the job... is not logical get a int bonus on trait when our job works with MND.

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Originally Posted by Astalder

You aren't supposed to be able to switch to any class any time you want(end game stat wise). You put your stat points into your main class and go from there. Depending which class(s) you like to play it allows you to main a couple at a time without switching stats completely.

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But you already can do this with classes. I can switch from arcanist to marauder, and have the statpoints allocated the way i did it while leveling said marauder. The only problem here are arcanist jobs, because our main class (arcanist) has other stat preferences (int) than one of our jobs (scholar) who wants mind. Currently it is really solved in a bad way, gaining passive int, needing int for arcanist/summoner while wanting mind for scholar.

I read somewhere that scholars healing is based on int and not mnd. I don't thinks it's true because scholar AF doesn't even have int stats on it. But it would make sense to me if scholars healing worked with int instead because their supposed to be really smart lore wise and it would solve the issue of where to put attribute points.

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Originally Posted by Navine

I read somewhere that scholars healing is based on int and not mnd. I don't thinks it's true because scholar AF doesn't even have int stats on it. But it would make sense to me if scholars healing worked with int instead because their supposed to be really smart lore wise and it would solve the issue of where to put attribute points.

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The person who wrote that guide/wiki really needs to fix all this misinformation he's caused.

MND is scholar's main stat, and the only stat that helps healing besides determ(which barely helps it and isn't worth gearing for).

It is dumb the way this is setup. When you get your job you should be able to set your points up based on the job not the main class. Leveling as an ACN while putting all of your pts in MND was a pita until I hit 30 and could use cleric stance as a SCH. And also what are people supposed to do that did not know any better and are stick with a bunch of INT and farming for 10k seals is not an answer, no one else has to farm seals for their job as it was very clear what their main stat would be from the beginning.

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Originally Posted by Ruprect

It is dumb the way this is setup. When you get your job you should be able to set your points up based on the job not the main class. Leveling as an ACN while putting all of your pts in MND was a pita until I hit 30 and could use cleric stance as a SCH. And also what are people supposed to do that did not know any better and are stick with a bunch of INT and farming for 10k seals is not an answer, no one else has to farm seals for their job as it was very clear what their main stat would be from the beginning.

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Its not dumb it makes sense, you just can't see it.

Well I like both smn and sch and it's been really hard traiting for both but I'm making it work.

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Originally Posted by GinTama

Its not dumb it makes sense, you just can't see it.

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Good help. Your reasoning is on point and you made a lot of sense with your argument. /endsarcasm

Ok so I'm asking this to the people who crunch the numbers and do all that extra math stuff to help us others out. Seeing as how the arcanist gets a lot of int from passive traits while leveling up, if you put all your points in int and then used cleric stance would the int --> mind outweigh the negative healing aspect that cleric stance generates? Because if it does then that's what I'm gonna go with.

20% decrease in heals might be less significant than the gain in all that int you spent ur points on going to mind in cleric stance. Please help me with the math!

I flip back and forth between Summoner and Scholar all the time. I put my points into intellect for summoner, but when I switch over to scholar, the gear I have for it makes the Mind attribute surpass my intellect attribute. I have no problems with healing during dungeons with doing it this way. As far as cleric stance goes, I would not use it because I noticed that when using it that my heals were maybe 20 to 50 points less than when I had it off. This may not be for everyone, but it works for me.

I agree with the OP. The comment about the "Free 50" is woefully misplaced since they've already stated each class will eventually have multiple jobs. Most people are apathetic *now* because it doesn't affect them.

I'm just upset that my passives are INT-based when my job is MND-based. If anything they should buff Maim and Mend and replace the stat traits.

I also feel that Cleric Stance should be viable for Summoners. I stacked all my points in mind so far so I can heal to my fullest. However, if I so decide to play around with Summoner, dropping gil seems like a waste. If they added Cleric Stance for Summoners my MIND would be able to be used as INT. Which would be ideal.

Those who say you're not supposed to be able to switch to any job you want are wrong. That is the big selling point of this game, that you dont have to make more than 1 character to lvl all the classes. This is the reason I wished they would only have 1 class for 1 job.

They need to make all your points reset one time when you change to a new job.

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Originally Posted by billydata21

Those who say you're not supposed to be able to switch to any job you want are wrong. That is the big selling point of this game, that you dont have to make more than 1 character to lvl all the classes. This is the reason I wished they would only have 1 class for 1 job.

They need to make all your points reset one time when you change to a new job.

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Or give each job their own points like they do with classes. So when you change jobs it saves the points you have used to that job not based on what points you used for that class.

I am actually using this. I have all my points on int and I am using Cleric Stance.
If you look closely your healing magic potency and attack magic potency matches your mind and intelligence. I think the 20% healing reduction and 10% attack increase just don't work with scholar.

On or off cleric stance does not affect the magic potency it seems but when cleric stance is on, my healing is much better. Can anyone clarify this?

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Originally Posted by Jojen

20% decrease in heals might be less significant than the gain in all that int you spent ur points on going to mind in cleric stance. Please help me with the math!

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Originally Posted by Dexoh

I've been leveling my ACN and have been putting points into INT but I am about to do my lvl 30 SCH quest and was wondering if you get a new set of attr points? Since technically ACN is a DD and SCH is a healer. Or will I have to grind the 10k GC seals and respec?

:DThanks in advance!

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10k seals for re-spec ofc healing is base on MND, and as SCH or WHM (they use same stats) both have Cleric stance that swap MND & INT and increase dmg by 10% and reduce healing by 20%, so for solo SCH will do just fine and if you feel the killing is slow call out the chocobo

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Originally Posted by Navine

Well I like both smn and sch and it's been really hard traiting for both but I'm making it work.

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you can for exampler split point between MND and INT, the lost is not that big