Just a heads up on scammers. (not gil sellers)

So yesterday I stepped out to get a missing ingredient for dinner, and my 12 year old daughter was playing her character online. When I came back home, she was all excited telling me how this dude offered her a "trade" for 100 of her gil, and in exchange, he'd give her 1000 of his gil.
I'm sure you know where this is going.. :/
She got scammed, dude never paid. I had told her to be leary of people online offering trades and such but the deal must've sounded to good to be true for her while she didn't have me watching her play for those few minutes.
I'm sure a lot of people in the community know better than to trust someone like that, but I just thought I'd spread it along.

According to the games rating your daughter is too young to play the game.

According to the games rating, his daughter is too young to purchase it.

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Originally Posted by Beefsteak

According to the games rating your daughter is too young to play the game.

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Way to take someone trying to be proactive and spread what they see as a potential problem and turn it into a troll thread.

Godsdamned Ul'dahn derelicts I tell you.

It's 100 gil..

The earlier she learns what people in the world are like the better.

Better she be scammed out of a hundred gil, than something more important right?

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Originally Posted by LebronJames

It's 100 gil..

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That's 1,000 bloody gils in ye ole 1.0 times!

As someone who has played Eve Online...I chuckle at this.

Beef... you already lost this argument. SO why don't you stop before you fall so far behind, you are back in 1.0

It is sad that someone would take advantage of someone young. THey are weak minded individuals. CLearly this one was a highly weak minded individual. (100gil serious?)

Others have no bsiness telling her that she is not a good parent, or lacks parenting skills, especially those with weak ethical standing, compassion, and balance themselves (or the fact they lack children of their own).

Now people doing stuff like hthis will build a bad rep very fast and have a hard time if they let it continue.

Ask a character from XI named Poof who not only was the most hated person on Fiary, but ended up moving, continuing and got banned for life.

I haven't read TOS etc. as usual, so I am asking if someone did: is scamming prohibited in this game?

Dunno actually I agree with Beef, I wouldn't have let my kids play this game when they were 12, and I would be right beside them all the time if I did to make sure zone chat was off, and that I saw any tells they got. All the trash talk in gen chat doesn't worry me, but it isn't something I would have wanted my 12 yr old reading. I know they hear stuff at school but come on, some of the things I have seen said in chat are really not for 12 yr old eyes.

ETA: Actually I just looked it up and the game is rated Teen not Mature, which is recommended for 13 and up, so really it isn't that bad she is playing it at all, but I still think constant supervision is best.

it's 100 gil.


and now she knows that when someone offers something seemingly too good to be true, you should stay away. seems like she came out ahead, to be perfectly honest because that is one of the most valuable life lessons a person will ever learn.

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Originally Posted by Shae

Dunno actually I agree with Beef, I wouldn't have let my kids play this game when they were 12, and I would be right beside them all the time if I did to make sure zone chat was off, and that I saw any tells they got. All the trash talk in gen chat doesn't worry me, but it isn't something I would have wanted my 12 yr old reading. I know they hear stuff at school but come on, some of the things I have seen said in chat are really not for 12 yr old eyes.

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Funny thing is, it's probably 12 year olds polluting the shout system!

This is about the principle of what happened, most of you feel you are too intelligent to ever have something such as this happen to you.
So he is just helping to spread awareness, in case other parents have young teenagers that are playing this game.

Report him to a GM. The GMs will uphold deals struck between players.

I don't see the problem here, real life is no different. I sure hope you don't leave her unsupervised away from home too, if she's this trusting of people she doesn't know.

It's a video game, she wasn't smart enough to distrust a stranger online, that says more about your parenting skills than it does about humanity as a whole. Sorry, but the naive get scammed. Only the smart ones learn from it, the terminally naive come here to complain about it.

That's like being surprised that the wallet you lost ended being found with no money in it by the time it's returned to you, or leaving your phone on a friend's table while 3 people you've never met are also there and being shocked when it turns up missing later. If you lack that much common sense then you deserve what you get.

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Originally Posted by Beefsteak

*trolling*

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LOL parenting lessons from a troll.
My parenting helped her make the honor roll for two years in a row under my primary placement. FFXIV CE was her end of school year present for her grades. I played M-rated games at her age and turned up just fine.
In fact, FFXIV is the first game that has made us share our achievements in-game together. So if anything, it's helped our relationship.
I never had that as a kid, because my parents didn't "get" video games.
So if playing an M-rated game that so far has the same type of violence and weaponry as did King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. I don't think my parenting is irresponsible

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Originally Posted by LebronJames

It's 100 gil..

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Please don't intend my post to be a ranting about the gil. The amount of gil is the slightest of my concerns. She has close to 5,000 right now :) I just wanted to let others know

Guys.. The scammer was role-playing as thief. While the person being scammed was role-playing as a naive maiden.

Its called immersion.:D

Damn that was a great deal! Where do I enter this wonderful (and obviously secret) scheme! I wanna win 10x my investment too!
But yeah, people are scumbags. It's a scumbag world. MMOs are slightly less scumbaggy worlds than RL though...

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Originally Posted by Shae

Dunno actually I agree with Beef, I wouldn't have let my kids play this game when they were 12, and I would be right beside them all the time if I did to make sure zone chat was off, and that I saw any tells they got. All the trash talk in gen chat doesn't worry me, but it isn't something I would have wanted my 12 yr old reading. I know they hear stuff at school but come on, some of the things I have seen said in chat are really not for 12 yr old eyes.

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These posts always make me lol...American servers :P

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Originally Posted by ZyloWolfBane

It's a video game, she wasn't smart enough to distrust a stranger online, that says more about your parenting skills than it does about humanity as a whole. Sorry, but the naive get scammed. Only the smart ones learn from it, the terminally naive come here to complain about it.

If you lack that much common sense then you deserve what you get.

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No need to throw in personal attacks.

I got scammed once when I was in second grade. Lost my neopet account after being promised 10,000 Neopoints in exchange for my account information. Needless to say I lost the account, but at least I learned from that experience.

funny part is people that usually say that the person shouldn't of let there kid on the game,are either young/used to be young and playing this or some other mmo with a age restriction...or doing something like this themselves and are trying to find a excuse for it.

ahhh,the internet.

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According to the games rating your daughter is too young to play the game.

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Originally Posted by Sileness

According to the games rating, his daughter is too young to purchase it.

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Parental Guidance?

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Originally Posted by Parawill

No need to throw in personal attacks.

I got scammed once when I was in second grade. Lost my neopet account after being promised 10,000 Neopoints in exchange for my account information. Needless to say I lost the account, but at least I learned from that experience.

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It's not a personal attack, it's the truth. You're supposed to teach your kids not to trust strangers, if she made it to 12 not learning this lesson then he's doing it wrong. Which furthermore reinforces why she shouldn't even be on the internet to begin with until that has sunk in.

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Originally Posted by ZyloWolfBane

It's not a personal attack, it's the truth. You're supposed to teach your kids not to trust strangers, if she made it to 12 not learning this lesson then he's doing it wrong. Which furthermore reinforces why she shouldn't even be on the internet to begin with until that has sunk in.

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school is actually going more to the internet you know,just today my little sister got a homework from her teacher which was to link up to some internet group with the rest of the class since thats how she will be sending in her homework/projects. kids will meet the internet in this generation at any age.

and when does any parent have to teach there kid to not trust trading money from a video game with another person,my dad never taught me that. when you(if...i doubt it) have a kid,you probably wont spend half your time teaching your son/daughter to not trust deals in game to trade gear/gil with someone who is giving you a huge bonus.

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Originally Posted by truemagus

and when does any parent have to teach there kid to not trust trading money from a video game with another person,my dad never taught me that.

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The way you disseminate what I said with your own circular logic is astounding, but since the point flew over you like a plane I'll lower the bar for a moment.

The point is to teach them not to trust strangers, I do believe I mentioned that. Whether it's a video game or real life shouldn't matter, the lesson is the same. If something seems to good to be true, it probably is.

Not sure why mentioning your sister has any factual proof to anything either to discredit me or justify the OP in any way, I never said NO kids should be allowed on the internet, just overly trusting ones with neglectful parents.

Try again if you like to pick apart my statements and find non-existent correlations to add your own anecdotes to.

It's called basic economics bro, are you even serious?

Look, I straight up told her how the deal works - she invests 100 gil at the moment, and I promise a return investment of 1,000 gil in a weeks time. It's called making an investment, and I laid out the entire plans to her already. With a basic cash injection I will take the money and use it on the market house using strategic base algorithms to determine low buys I can later produce for higher sells. All I needed was the cash up front to make this happen, and my promise of returning the investment was 100% legit.

If she really thought she was going to get 1k gil immediately I suggest she read the fine print - it says that it will take up to a weeks time until the investment return can be achieved, but the amount can be withheld until a specified time no later than 2 months at which point all incurred money from the initial start up plus interest will be paid out.

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Originally Posted by ZyloWolfBane

It's not a personal attack, it's the truth. You're supposed to teach your kids not to trust strangers, if she made it to 12 not learning this lesson then he's doing it wrong. Which furthermore reinforces why she shouldn't even be on the internet to begin with until that has sunk in.

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not defending the OP or anything. but the internet is babysitting most of this country from the age of 5(maybe even younger). this isn't 1970