Scholar - INT or MND?

I Leveled my Scholar today to lvl 36.
I gave all attribute points to MND for better healing.
But i saw this on a wiki:

The most important stat for the scholar is intelligence, which increases all magic potency for this job including healing magic potency.

The mind attribute is not used by scholars to determine healing magic potency.

http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Scholar

is that true? if yes can i reset my attribute points?

MND increases healing.

On your Scholar, you'll want MND.

That is an outright lie, whoever wrote that is either a fool or a troll. All of Scholars gear pushes Mind, right up to our Relic weapon. There is absolutely no doubt that Scholar heals use Mind.

And yes, you can reset your attribute points, the Grand Companies sell an item for 10,000 seals which you can use to reset.

That lie was written by a WHM! trying to mislead new Scholars!

I have a question along this subject: does the grand company point reset item also refund all of your points that you spent as an arcanist?

I had a guild member tell me that arcanist and scholar have two different sets of bonus points to allocate, so I assumed it was okay to put points into INT as an arcanist. I'm starting to think he was mistaken.

Jobs share their class bonus points. So if you put all points into mind then your scholar will have better heals but your dps will be slighty gimped as an ACN or if you choose..Summoner. Me personally I play my Scholar for dungeons and Summoner otherwise. I I've decided to split my bonus points 15/15. Has worked out so far.

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Originally Posted by Minibiskit

I have a question along this subject: does the grand company point reset item also refund all of your points that you spent as an arcanist?

I had a guild member tell me that arcanist and scholar have two different sets of bonus points to allocate, so I assumed it was okay to put points into INT as an arcanist. I'm starting to think he was mistaken.

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Yes, it resets ALL of your points.
I got mine 2 days ago because when I was Arcanist, I threw all my points into INT.
Saved 10,000 seals and finally was able to put all my points into MND.

Also to the OP, having tried both, there is not actually a big difference given by your points but you will deffo get better heals by putting points into MND.

I would say put all into int. as a scholar you will need to use Cleric Stance to swap you int to mnd. That way if you also have a smn your dmg won't be gimped.

http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=279 MND.

MND is by far the best stat for cures, it increases curing by insane amounts.

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Originally Posted by Nazareth2000sg

I would say put all into int. as a scholar you will need to use Cleric Stance to swap you int to mnd. That way if you also have a smn your dmg won't be gimped.

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Please dont do this, if you plan on being a scholar. Besides the fact that cleric stance reduces your healing output, swapping mnt/int when most of your gear comes loaded with mnt seems pretty counterproductive.

Oh true I forgot about reduced healing potency. My bad. Then this is actually a bug. Why would SE give cleric stance to scholar in the first place.

But I have been using cleric stance with scholar healing at the level 37 dungeon with no problems. I can see an increase in healing with it. Without it my heals just suck.

I will have to check later at home today.

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Originally Posted by Sepiriz

Please dont do this, if you plan on being a scholar. Besides the fact that cleric stance reduces your healing output, swapping mnt/int when most of your gear comes loaded with mnt seems pretty counterproductive.

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Originally Posted by Nazareth2000sg

Why would SE give cleric stance to scholar in the first place.

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Because Ruin, Ruin II, Bio, Bio II, Miasma, Miasma II, Energy Drain, Shadow Flare, Aero, and Thunder all use Intelligence?

Cleric Stance on Conjurer and Scholar is to be used in conjecture with the Classes nukes. Both have high Mind, switching that to Intelligence and giving a damage bonus on top of that is ideal for such spells, though it makes Intelligence a completely worthless stat on both Classes (not so much an issue for Conjurer, but Scholar is unfortunately lumped with Arcanist/Summoner).

Oh true I forgot about reduced healing potency. My bad. Then this is actually a bug. Why would SE give cleric stance to scholar in the first place.

But I have been using cleric stance with scholar healing at the level 37 dungeon with no problems. I can see an increase in healing with it. Without it my heals just suck.

I will have to check later at home today.

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Originally Posted by Sepiriz

Please dont do this, if you plan on being a scholar. Besides the fact that cleric stance reduces your healing output, swapping mnt/int when most of your gear comes loaded with mnt seems pretty counterproductive.

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Originally Posted by Nazareth2000sg

Oh true I forgot about reduced healing potency. My bad. Then this is actually a bug. Why would SE give cleric stance to scholar in the first place.

But I have been using cleric stance with scholar healing at the level 37 dungeon with no problems. I can see an increase in healing with it. Without it my heals just suck.

I will have to check later at home today.

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for soloing.

or put all stats to VIT if you you don't want MND to ruin your SMN and INT to ruin your SCH, lol

There seems to be some misconceptions about cleric stance for scholars. And int/mnd as well.

While cleric stance does indeed reduce your own healing output, it does not affect your fairy. At all. For trash I honestly stay mostly in cleric stance and nuke away and let my fairy do most of the work.

As for int/mnd, mnd sure does seem to be the stat we should go for. But I wonder.. has anyone noticed the HUGE MND buff we get from simply equipping scholar? Where the hell does that come from? Switching from SMN to SCH gives me like 70 more MND. Is this related to the points I've put in INT? Somehow? Has anyone tested this?

Jobs have their own stats growth based on your level, which is a reason why you generally want to go say Black Mage over staying THM even though BLM spells aren't quite that good, but you lose like a large chunk of int in the process. That's just how it is, it's especially noticeable on ACN because you swap from high int to high mind. But if you go ACN > SMN, you'll see you get an int bump too.