New NMs almost impossible to claim - unless you live in Japan!

This is something that I saw happen many times in FFXI, and it seems that this issue has reared it's ugly head again in FFXIV. Players in Japan or close to Japan have an unfair advantage claiming a mob that respawns in their area, compared to a NA player. Due to the locations of the servers these players have a lower round trip for their packets and they see the monsters spawn probably a half second before a NA player will.

We've tried claiming these new NMs with a JP linkshell group in the same area and every time they get it. Hell, I've even had one of my group tell me that he saw the mob get hit by his weapon (THM) and the NM was still claimed by the JP group. I've personally watched my Provoke go off and the claim STILL go to the JP group. So I guess the lesson is that if you want to claim one of the new NM, you'd better either A) live in Japan or B) log on during a time that no one is fighting these monsters.

I say make the NM unclaimable for 1-2 seconds after spawning. I'd like to at least SEE the monster spawn sometimes before I see it claimed - half the time before it even appears they're fighting it.

Well this was obviously going to happen due to the latency issue, as I said to you in the other thread I don't see what you are suggesting making much difference as JP players will still be able to get their skills and abilities off faster due to less latency.

This is a very good reason why all NM's should be instanced or popped with an item IMO.

Instanced or Faction-leved. (along with reduced faction leve costs)

I play on the unofficial JP server with a bad ISP and have no problems.

My group was doing fairly well against the JPs as well.

Most the missed claims where when it simply poped away from us.

How to claim NMs is easy:

1) Have your weapon drawn (there is a delay when drawing the weapon)
2) Use Pugs ability which lets you run full speed with weapon out
3) Use Archer due to they can claim the farthest distance.

Do those 3 things and you will get claims.

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Originally Posted by Xzen

I play on the unofficial JP server with a bad ISP and have no problems.

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what is 'the unofficial JP server'? they are all JP servers.

Or make spawn times faster......

oh wait!

NVM lets make spawn times 3,12 or 24+ hours!!

IMO every NM should have a faction-related version.

outdoor NMs not only are hardcore content, which is bad in a game that is said to be casual-friendly, but also not everyone has the time, will or ping to camp them.

And having a faction version, those that don't want to camp could still have a fair chance of getting his stuff from faction leves. This also should include ths past NMs that donn't have faction still, like uraneus or mosshorn.

They should have been faction leves from the get go really, especially considering the drop rates, as much as like the addition of the NM's I do think SE messed up this time, there is still time to correct it though.

I hardly consider them impossible to claim. Not to mention the fact they repop like every 5 minutes. My LS got NM items last night for almost everyone in the party and we are mostly NA players. Just keep trying to get them thats all.

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Originally Posted by Reika

what is 'the unofficial JP server'? they are all JP servers.

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Unofficial JP servers When the game was about to be release they went to many NA website and told us that this is our server so please do not enter one being selbina if i remember right.

just how Beside is the unofficial RP world and trabia is the unofficial world for FFXIVPRO and eorzeapedia.com

Claimed Kokoroon plenty times yesterday with a group of 3 while other groups were also trying to claim it and last time i checked i lived in Europe. Maybe people need to learn to focus and concentrate better. The only time i really had huge issues in ff11 was when rmt would stand their with their pets out so i would constantly target the pets while tabbing.

kill the rest of mobs in the area if any at all close by .
Use aoe skill that does not requires target.(warmonger,wardrum, etc)
win.

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Originally Posted by Veasna

Claimed Kokoroon plenty times yesterday with a group of 3 while other groups were also trying to claim it and last time i checked i lived in Europe. Maybe people need to learn to focus and concentrate better. The only time i really had huge issues in ff11 was when rmt would stand their with their pets out so i would constantly target the pets while tabbing.

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Its not about focus. Focus won't make your ping become faster...its like a race...whoever claim message reaches the server first gets the claim. It was like this in XI and they problem will stay like this for every game that deals with international servers.

I do think faction version of NMs would be a simple, clean way to fix this all, also keeping the casual friendly/stressfree gameplay that was one of the proposals of this game.

Ok, im prolly pretty lucky with my ping then, eventhough i switched providers more than once since i played ff11. I just don't see the claim problem as much. I still get the claim pretty fast, but im also not chatting or doing other things while waiting for it to pop. Besides, with pops every 30 secs to 5 minutes, and untradable/unique stuff dropping from the NMs, do we really need to make a problem out of this? Raids and dungeons are also coming. For everyone something to their liking?

I found people more than willing to group up to kill the NMs faster, and then hand out drops in order of arrival.

I'd also like to point out that if you attack to early your actions will NOT claim the monster. Just like in necrologos or whatever when an enemy appears you have to wait a moment before you can claim it or it will not turn red. Keep that in mind when trying to claim.

I would like to report that in the above mentioned Selbina server, with a healthy international population (the reason why I chose it) several things have been going on: Plenty of mixed parties camping, getting items to go around to all members interested also (my LS has ppl. in Europe, NA and Japan, it's not only ad hoc parties.) Also, lots of individual campers from all nationalities; and finally, region-defined groups, everybody participating in good, old-fashioned, heavy-handed, competitive camping. This, I should say, does make adrenaline flow, and the game fun. We started as a light party, ended up full and fought continuously, in several locations, and never went beyond 10 minutes without a claim. By the end of a few hours of good late, Friday-night fun (which, by the way, corresponds to daytime Saturday fun in Japan) most of us had one of the good drops and some had several.

Nothing was as complicated and frustrating, or as competitive as was trying to claim the over-camped and painfully shy Leaping Lizzy (remember it's pop formula depended on the pre-placeholder for the placeholder being killed continuously?) and Valkurm Emperor...

Just telling our side of the story.

R

Does this thread really exist? I've noticed no such problems and have been claiming fine. Most have big enough spawn radius' where it isn't a spam war anyway.. not to mention they respawn in 5 minutes.

Of all the things to complain about.. really.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

2) Use Pugs ability which lets you run full speed with weapon out.

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I don't know if it's Pug ability, mine is currently 39. but I believe you're talking about Fleet of Foot which is a Lancer ability and allows you to run 20-30% faster with weapon out

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Originally Posted by Danniedeadboy

I don't know if it's Pug ability, mine is currently 39. but I believe you're talking about Fleet of Foot which is a Lancer ability and allows you to run 20-30% faster with weapon out

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Yea sorry wrong class. Lnc ability is the one I ment.