[Game suggestion] Crafting Improvements

I have some crafting suggestions. Here they come:

Change the facilities-option. Make facility buffs stack, why does the new buff replace the old one? Or perhaps just make 1 crafting buff that works for all classes.
Also I would like some more repair/facility npc's in the city. For example one near/in the market area would be nice. It's not much fun running from the market ward in ll to the npc in hawker's alley and back several times. I assume the facilities are there as a money sink, but so far it's only annoying.

Make quality make sense. I see no difference in the chance of getting a HQ item if I have 70 quality or if you have 300+, what gives? Most of the time I feel like I'm having more success with low quality but a lot of touch up, than a high quality and a few touch up.

Re-evaluate guild mark rewards. Right now you can't see if a leve gives you marks, but it does show for battle and field craft. Why?
Also, it's a lot harder to gain guild marks for crafting than it is for battle craft. Why?
I don't know if it's a good idea or not, but how about making the items you can buy with guild marks have lowered or no rank restriction at all?

Make the list of synthesis commands(standard, rapid, bold, etc) non-scrollable. Right now you always have to scroll down to select your command(gets tedious). And after you select the command the list goes back to the top making you select the wrong option sometimes.

And how come that when crafting they always use the items from the biggest stack and not the smallest? It makes me end up with 2 stacks that could easily stack together.

Please do something about the amount of inventory space used by all of our tools and possibly gear. See this thread I made in general discussion:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ventory-system

PS. I love the new crafting leve feature where it asks me if I want to continue crafting, very useful.

How about adding buff and repair ability to the npc inside the ward.

From what I have read the whole HQ thing is crap. Here is my understanding...if you have 70 quality then you have a 7% chance of HQ if you have 300 quality then you have a 30% chance. This whole crafting aspect of the game needs an overhaul. Here are my suggestions:

Synthing HQ items need to be addressed

Stacking abilities

Destabilizing needs to be ajusted (I tend to destab 60% of my synths with that specific stat capped)

Local Leves need to have the guild marks on them (I rarely get these, one of the main reasons I do not do them)

Mats for recipes need to be changed, some recipes call for a higher ranked mat (of that same class) to be used in a lower recipe, example Bronze Arrow is a r10 recipe BUT in order to make the Cedar Arrow Shafts you need to be around r24.

I find that crafting is tedious and I wish and hope that the new team makes it more enjoyable.

Make it faster! The animations are too long! Seriously it takes way too long to craft 1 item!

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. I love the new crafting leve feature where it asks me if I want to continue crafting, very useful.

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I agree, this is an excellent addition! I would like to see this implemented for non-leve synths as well, though. If I'm grinding iron needles and I know I'm going to need to make 50 of them, then why can't I just have an option to repeat the synth I just did?

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Make it faster! The animations are too long! Seriously it takes way too long to craft 1 item!

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I also definitely agree with this! The sped up animations for gathering classes are a step in the right direction, but you could take things further by speeding up crafting animation!

Crafting abilities need to be more potent. It would make crafting more involved as well as help discourage SOME botting.

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Originally Posted by Poppa

From what I have read the whole HQ thing is crap. Here is my understanding...if you have 70 quality then you have a 7% chance of HQ if you have 300 quality then you have a 30% chance. This whole crafting aspect of the game needs an overhaul. Here are my suggestions:

Synthing HQ items need to be addressed

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I couldnt agree with you more on this

Just incase you didn't know this their is a Repair guy in the Market wards in the area wheir people put items to be repaired. Forgot the name of the room. Now you don't have to leave the wards to get your item repaired.

1. There should be an optional preference for "Reset to Top" or "Memory", so that during synthesis the cursor will reset to top (currently operates as), or continues to stay on the last selected synthesis type except abilities which should return it to top option. When i HQ parts I wanna Bold, Bold, Bold the for 100% of progress it's cumbersome to have to select bold over and over.

I don't see any major flaws with the final synthesis HQ where you need touch ups (a lot of previous posters don't fully understand the HQ game). The bigger issue lies in when you use 5-6 HQ1-3 parts for a total of 5-10 syntheses that you spent all week making or farming. During the final synthesis I understand the quality vs durability vs moon phase game, but you end up with with 7-10 touch ups using HQ materials and get 5-10 normal qualities with nothing to show for your hard dedicated efforts.

2. My suggestion is make HQ parts always come out as HQ when a certain quality is obtained. HQ1-150Q, HQ2-300, HQ3-450 (This would also alleviate space issues so i can stop collecting normal quality materials/parts) or you can increase the influence that HQ parts have on creating an HQ during final synthesis because yes they increase your starting Quality, but obtaining massive numbers of HQ parts is a major time and resource sink when it barely affects the final synthesis as is.

After pick the last craft rec, the window that show the mat and the window show shard require, should be in 1 window, it ll be 1 click after pick rec and craft, instead of pick recipe, 2 click and then craft

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Originally Posted by Poppa

Local Leves need to have the guild marks on them (I rarely get these, one of the main reasons I do not do them)

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I also don't do local leves for this reason. It just takes too much time for such a low chance of payoff.

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Originally Posted by TheBullet

Make the list of synthesis commands(standard, rapid, bold, etc) non-scrollable.

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I completely agree.

It would be awesome if there was a action bar for crafting (like there is for battle) instead of a menu. This would remove the need to scroll for abilities, remove the need to navigate to rapid or bold repeatedly, make the crafting UI more visually appealing, and in my opinion make crafting feel more exciting and involved.

The new menu reduction for regular synthing is really nice but I feel it would be better if the default menu selection after a synth was "Recipes" instead of "Requested Items". Its a small change but with the new leve synthing process I rarely have to select "Requested Items" and 99% of the time at that stage in the menu process I select "Recipes"

I also, feel that the time limit in-between actions needs to be increased. The way it is now makes it a really tough to chat and craft at the same time.

I would definitely like to see a "repeat synthesis" option under "finish" when doing normal synthesis. Something similar to what was implemented for local leves that would reduce the number of windows/clicks you have to go through to just do the same exact synthesis over. It's so tedious right now when you need to smelt a load of ores or are trying to level up on a particular synthesis.

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Originally Posted by Poppa

From what I have read the whole HQ thing is crap. Here is my understanding...if you have 70 quality then you have a 7% chance of HQ if you have 300 quality then you have a 30% chance. This whole crafting aspect of the game needs an overhaul.

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Could you link the page where you read about Crafting HQ info plz?

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Originally Posted by Frebaut

Just incase you didn't know this their is a Repair guy in the Market wards in the area wheir people put items to be repaired. Forgot the name of the room. Now you don't have to leave the wards to get your item repaired.

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Ah yes, I completely forgot about that ward. It was menders ward. Thank you for reminding me.

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Originally Posted by TheBullet

Or perhaps just make 1 crafting buff that works for all classes.

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We have this. It's known as Pineapple Juice and Dodo Omelette. ;)

Pretty sure this already exists in certain wards. I stumbled across NPCs in Uldah wards which were implemented in the December patches, though I can't remember exactly if they were crafting support or help NPCs.

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Originally Posted by Frebaut

Just incase you didn't know this their is a Repair guy in the Market wards in the area wheir people put items to be repaired. Forgot the name of the room. Now you don't have to leave the wards to get your item repaired.

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Originally Posted by Edyn

Pretty sure this already exists in certain wards. I stumbled across NPCs in Uldah wards which were implemented in the December patches, though I can't remember exactly if they were crafting support or help NPCs.

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Unfortunately the new npc's in the market do not offer the facilities buff, only repair and the buy and sell option.

I'd like to be able to do multiple low rank crafts all at once to save time. Let me do 5 rank 4 materials synths at once, but increase the difficulty 5 times or something.

I don't know if anyone else agrees with me on this or suggested this already. But I would really like to see the crafting animations speed increased, similar to the recent gathering animations being increased, so we can get things done faster when grinding on crafts.

Is that all that much to ask for? :0 Hope that wasn't a lame suggestion!

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

I don't know if anyone else agrees with me on this or suggested this already. But I would really like to see the crafting animations speed increased, similar to the recent gathering animations being increased, so we can get things done faster when grinding on crafts.

Is that all that much to ask for? :0 Hope that wasn't a lame suggestion!

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I'd like to see this as well. Crafting animations are amusing the first couple of syntheses. After you've done it a few times and really start grinding, you really just want it to hurry the eff up.

Repairing items that are equipped would be awesome. How annoying is it to unequip and item and place it up for repair.

2cents, and no more.

For the last four days I have been fishing to make shards. I used my +2 and +3 fish with bold to optimize HQ. It was a new moon (not on purpose, it just was.) In 100 synths, I got four HQs; three +1, one +2. On a whim, I decided to compare that to something else. I equipped blinding speed. In 100 synths I got six HQs; one +1, two +2, and three +3. Then someone asked why I didn't use Hasty Hand. With about 25 fish left, most of them +1, I equipped Hasty Hand. I received three HQs, one of each type.

Granted this was not scientific. I used a variety of fish, a variety of quality mats, and I hadn't intended from the onset to eliminate extra variables. Even so, I should not, not, not, have been seeing an INCREASE in HQ quantity and quality by moving progressively to lower and lower quality output.

Regardless of how it SHOULD work, the HQ game is broken.

Also, I do not believe there should be guaranteed HQ at any point as that would devalue the gear and make HQ the norm, not the exception. This is easily addressed however. Assuming tweaks to properly balance it the base line should work as follows: If I am high enough above the synth level I receive no SP and XP, I have my stats spec'd out specifically for my class, I have all the best +3 gear for my rank without being under rank, my elemental stats are maxed towards the shards/crystals I am using (assuming elemental stats affect crafting already) and its a new moon (assuming that affects HQ output), AND I use all +3 mats, AND I am using the appropriate foodstuffs for my job, AND I have the best crafting support from the guild, AND I have all the guild-purchased abilities need, AND I have the appropriate at-rank abilities equipped, AND the synth goes so well that I bold the whole thing with no more than one or two failures, then it should be well over 50% to make at least +1 product (lets say 75% chance for argument sake - that's roughly 3 in 20 wouldn't be HQ of some kind), tapering off from there as required to balance it so that while it isn't impossible to get +3 there is some genuine effort to it. I will leave for debate as to how rare +3 should be.

Look at it from the DoW/DoM side of things. Basically, if you stack every odd in our favor while crafting, we should be able to provide enough +1 gear that anyone who does not actively seek to earn money but is slightly savy about saving up gil can afford a couple of pieces of +1 gear every tier of equipment upgrade, using just money obtained from combat leves assuming they do every leve. This means they will either use +1 gear across multiple tiers, or only have a couple of +1 every time they upgrade. This allows the casual player (who is, as much as I hate to admit it because they don't buy stuff from me as often, as important as the hardcore player) to actually achieve some semblance beyond normalcy.

I still think that +3 at least should be rare-ish (though not as rare as it currently is). Again, that's for another debate.

One thing I would like to see in addition to fixing the HQ system, is the ability to "retry" it. The idea being that this would not work for NQ items, but if on finishing an item I get a +1 or +2, I get the option to "Retry", at which point I do the same synth, using the full spread of mats as required by the recipe, but in addition to that I loose my +HQ item and get, say, +15 durability and quality (or +30 for a +2 item) in my "retry."

A retry system like that should NOT guarantee I will even get an HQ, but should stack the odds a little more in my favor. Also, a system like that should have to be done on the spot, instead of "finish." Nor should it allow me to use a NQ item to "retry" for HQ. The overall idea I guess, essentially, a more interactive version of touch-up (though I would not suggest this as a replacement for touch-up, but rather in addition too.)

Finally, to address the speed at which crafting is done. Crafting a single item using standard should take about as long as your average solo fight for similar SP output.

Also regarding the speed of crafting: that's what Hasty Hands is for. Yes, it can only be used reliably with stuff below your level. Likewise, a DoW/DoM can pop-shot a marmot outside the gates of Ul'dah when they're high enough. That's also what blinding speed and rapid synth are for - which by and by, I at least have had no issue with. Using rapid synth while grinding on stuff that gives you an output 300 or 400 SP per synth is comparable to or better than the SP/hour o na synth that gives you 1k SP. Yes, its less SP, but it takes half the time with noticeably less breakage and the result is greater SP per hour.

SO yeah. That's where I stand on things.

Edit: Yes to repairing things while people are wearing them, but passive mode only. Also, maybe yes to using crafters for in-combat weapon/armor buffs? Barfire / enfire anyone?

How about giving us a bar for fatigue? Right now it's like you're crafting and then, BAM, fatigue. Nothing fancy, no need numbers, sp, xp or % , just a bar is ok already. The devs force us to change classes with the fatigue, so having something to show us that we're about to hit fatigue would be nice.


And also, I have this feeling that when I get close to fatigue, my chance of success for crafting seems to go down. Everything fails more often and then when you finally make it, you suddenly go into fatigue.

I would like to do the same synth again for normal synth, just like with guildleves. Please filter the recipes per class. Some recipes that are often used on a synth are now rapidly replaced by others from other classes.

Some more speed for crafting would help greatly. It just takes so much more time to rank up crafting jobs than combat jobs. Combat jobs can do leves about 4 times in a week and when using links they can rank up at least once every round. Crafting leves does not even grant me 10k of SP

[dev1016]Remaining Materials should be shown for each Local leve from the global Journal view. We should not have to click on every single local leve to figure out if we have completed the local leve or not.