Seriously!!! SE

I've tried to be a little patient. Agreeing with both sides and what not depending on the issue. I mean, its just a game right? No one paid for anything, right? No one paid for any CE benefits, no one paid to have and play the game. I mean, I would be perfectly OK if i bought a car that I could only open the door and drive for specified, limited period of the day.

People paid money SE. Paid money to PLAY THE DAMN GAME! Not sit around for hours spamming a log in screen for "world full" errors. Listen to some of the other posts and institute an AFK kick pronto. A queue wouldn't hurt either.

You won't get a dime of subscription money from me until you can prove that you know what you are doing and you even care about paying customers.

Rant Complete.

Launch week -> eh sorry man, just wait until next week. We'll open up some new servers by then. Please be patient and stay with us a little bit longer. We didn't know that anyone would buy our game after all.

I was patient... But at some time people are out of patience.

oh then your not going to like that its going to continue until the start of next week "While the operation is in progress, we will continue to apply restrictions on both the creation of characters and the ability to log into the game. Throughout this time, we will be offering constant updates on the progress of the operation." and im happy with it.

Complain complain complain. They are doing everything they can and youre the type of person who made Yoshi-P cry. This crap is a lot harder than you are making it out to be.

I wish everyone would just chill a bit and let them work on it. You will get ur time and im sure YP will make rite of it all. The game should b around a long time, and once they do more with servers then it should be better.

I got in 8 times yesterday even after getting DC. It sux but its w/e for now. If they don't fix after a bit then get mad.

We are all aware of the issues and share your frustration, SE is also well aware that there is issues.

Complaining will not fix these issues, it sucks its a bumpy launch so far but a little patience will also help everyone out. If the waiting game isn't your thing then thats unfortunate, sooner or later things will run smoothly but until then waiting is all we can do.

They are expanding the servers at the begining of next week. They can only work so fast regardless of how much anger you can muster so deal with it, or dont, it matters little in the end.

Sorry Yoshi, did not mean to make you cry. You did a great work with rebuilding this game. I just wanted to play it but every time I have some space in my schedule, the servers are down. I am just frustrated. Keep on with the good work. /comfort

Between now and the changes, they will be rolling random for logout periods to help alive issues due to afk people, as well as small patches. Patience.

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Originally Posted by ArchBanshee

You won't get a dime of subscription money from me until you can prove that you know what you are doing and you even care about paying customers.

Rant Complete.

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Well at least we won't have to read your whiny posts on here anymore.

I have been able to get in each day and play for hours at a time. If your persistent in trying its really not that hard to get in and im on Balmung which is pretty high pop. It does blow and i wish everyone could get in the first try but its just taking time. They are upgrading both sides of the servers so im sure with in this next week we will see new servers and free transfers.

I think the key word in OP's post is that he was "a little patient." You gotta relax and have more patience. You can't expect a MMO of this stature to have such a smooth launch.

I agree, it sucks not being able to get in. It is what it is though. This is the situation theyre in, and they'll probably lose some subs because of it. Ranting and whining wont make the solution go by any faster.

They can either spend time writing, testing, and implementing a feature (afk timer) that is a solution to a temporary problem (reduced max players for servers & reduced queue size) or they can spend time fixing the actual problem. I'd prefer the latter.

I understand that it can happen in a launch week like this but I have to agree with OP, SE did a very poor job with customer service (at least on the English side) they barely reply to any thread on the English forums and the contact center required 48 hours to reply your questions. what a joke.

SE's customer services need to be improve ASAP.

I, as many others, have alot of patience. But after neearly a week of live service....
Getting the game started. going to log in screen first time...cant open JP data center (yes i rerolled my chars on a JP server)
2nd time today starting up, the useal come back later message..
30 min later, lobby server lost connection
another 30 min later, getting into a queu with 10 people! /joy ..... only to get the world is full error ever since
All in all allready 3 hours wasted.

I have now 5 characters..on 5 different servers...i am getting tired now i think.
Yes we shall get MAYBE more servers next week, but by then it might be to late.
Yes things will settle down, but in this case that only means thousands of people stopped beeing patient, which is a shame given the huge success this game could have been.

I normaly dont come to forums as can been seen by my post count^^ but really now, today beats the last week^^
/and yes, rant off

Faya

I just gave up on it, I can only sit there for so long, so now I found out that if you try log in before 5 pm GMT you will get in but between 6 pm - 10 pm you have no chance of getting in, so try again after also don't log-out once you are in.

I will be honest. I've gotten frustrated a few times when all of my friends were on and playing, and I got 9000'd off. It's always when you are right about to do something awesome, it seems. I just don't like the fact that all my friends can't be on constantly together. We all have to battle through the 1017 gauntlet, applying what we think will work best, lol. I know eventually the servers will be fine, it's just frustrating,

Thank you for sharing. I dont think SE realized yet that they are having problems with their servers. I'm so glad pleasant people like yourself take the time to come here and let them know.

Awesome, when you all quit i'll be able to log into the game, go on, see you later

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Originally Posted by ArchBanshee

I've tried to be a little patient. Agreeing with both sides and what not depending on the issue. I mean, its just a game right? No one paid for anything, right? No one paid for any CE benefits, no one paid to have and play the game. I mean, I would be perfectly OK if i bought a car that I could only open the door and drive for specified, limited period of the day.

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Your analogy doesn't quite make sense in this situation. For all intents and purposes you do not "own" the game, you are leasing a copy of the game. Not only that, you agreed to a ToS by installing the game that states your ability to play the game may be disrupted at any time without warning. I understand your frustration at paying for something and not being able to use it whenever you want but that's the way things are. A lot of us are here in the same situation with you, but if that is a deal breaker for you I would suggest you not purchase MMOs in the future.

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Originally Posted by Voormund

Your analogy doesn't quite make sense in this situation. For all intents and purposes you do not "own" the game, you are leasing a copy of the game...........

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What an absolute naive statement. Here is the reason and you are correct, I don't own the game and I am leasing the copy, but if I choose to not play it due to issues with millions of others, then what is there to lease if nobody is leasing when it's shut down. Correct me if I am wrong, isn't they a reboot cause they shut down the first attempt due to failure? Correct me if I am wrong that there is very little wiggle room in failure? It's a business and it's a fact that if the product isn't good, it won't survive. When I see posts saying, give them time, blah blah blah. No, they messed up already on the first version and they are messing up on the second. Their reputation is not doing so well already and the reviews on the game is going to crap because the reviewers can't even get on.

What are you guys talking about. What started all of this was the 90000 error code that was in beta. They never fixed that. Then they release the game with small server capacity and tons of servers instead of less servers and big capacity. He is right and this lets wait and see until they fix it. Its going to end up like ff11 where NA /EU players for the most part are going to start walking away from the game. This has nothing to do with if the game is good or not or if ff14 is a great game... that doesn't matter one bit if you cant get on the game. And why are all these fixes going in when the game is live and not in beta ? I played in beta and there was never this issue. So how come all of a sudden the servers are always full..... i'll tell you why.. people are not LOGING OUT.
You have people at work / school / sleeping / walking the dog that just leave there characters logged in game all day all night. FIX IT. Simple afk function. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Rona

Well at least we won't have to read your whiny posts on here anymore.

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Damn! I was going to say that! D:

Cant even play the freaking game i spent $60 on. And all this "let them fix the problem" they didnt know that NA/EU were going to have alot of players trying the game out. They had 'NO' idea that they would need big servers for an mmo of this magnitude.
And like 1 posted said... this is a rebot from a version they messed up bad. Now you open the new version with this kinda of crap. PUT IN AN AFK FUNCTION. People are not logging out of the game. Thats all you have to fix.

I've been playing on Coeurl and can get in within 15 - 20 minutes of repeatedly trying. It's annoying but it hasn't stopped me from playing at all. Just keeping hitting '0' on your numpad until you get in. Might take 40-50 tries, but if you really want to play you can.

They're adding new servers, which takes time. Be patient.

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Originally Posted by Grunwald

Cant even play the freaking game i spent $60 on. And all this "let them fix the problem" they didnt know that NA/EU were going to have alot of players trying the game out. They had 'NO' idea that they would need big servers for an mmo of this magnitude.
And like 1 posted said... this is a rebot from a version they messed up bad. Now you open the new version with this kinda of crap. PUT IN AN AFK FUNCTION. People are not logging out of the game. Thats all you have to fix.

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My friends and I all log on around 6est. Took about 25 minutes for all 4 of us to log inti the same full server. That is very reasonable for mmo launch week.

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Originally Posted by ArchBanshee

I've tried to be a little patient. Agreeing with both sides and what not depending on the issue. I mean, its just a game right? No one paid for anything, right? No one paid for any CE benefits, no one paid to have and play the game. I mean, I would be perfectly OK if i bought a car that I could only open the door and drive for specified, limited period of the day.

People paid money SE. Paid money to PLAY THE DAMN GAME! Not sit around for hours spamming a log in screen for "world full" errors. Listen to some of the other posts and institute an AFK kick pronto. A queue wouldn't hurt either.

You won't get a dime of subscription money from me until you can prove that you know what you are doing and you even care about paying customers.

Rant Complete.

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To be fair, "World Full" isn't an error rather then a statement.

Honestly, if you can't be patient for a week, you were never going to last long in this game.

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Originally Posted by ArchBanshee

I've tried to be a little patient. Agreeing with both sides and what not depending on the issue. I mean, its just a game right? No one paid for anything, right? No one paid for any CE benefits, no one paid to have and play the game. I mean, I would be perfectly OK if i bought a car that I could only open the door and drive for specified, limited period of the day.

People paid money SE. Paid money to PLAY THE DAMN GAME! Not sit around for hours spamming a log in screen for "world full" errors. Listen to some of the other posts and institute an AFK kick pronto. A queue wouldn't hurt either.

You won't get a dime of subscription money from me until you can prove that you know what you are doing and you even care about paying customers.

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why make this pointless thread it's a MMO launch this is normal shit.

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Originally Posted by NamudNevets

I wish everyone would just chill a bit and let them work on it. You will get ur time and im sure YP will make rite of it all. The game should b around a long time, and once they do more with servers then it should be better.

I got in 8 times yesterday even after getting DC. It sux but its w/e for now. If they don't fix after a bit then get mad.

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The problem here is the lack of communication. For example, if they where to say something like "You will have the duration of the time it takes to fix these login issues credited to your accounts" then yeah, NP. As it stands now people are assuming SE is thinking the game is playable if some of their audience can login and the ones that can't, oh well. That pisses people off.

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Originally Posted by ArchBanshee

People paid money SE. Paid money to PLAY THE DAMN GAME!

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We're not paying subs yet - Once that comes up and there's still problems, then there's a true problem. Every MMO during launch has issues like this, some even worse.

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Originally Posted by ArchBanshee

I've tried to be a little patient. Agreeing with both sides and what not depending on the issue. I mean, its just a game right? No one paid for anything, right? No one paid for any CE benefits, no one paid to have and play the game. I mean, I would be perfectly OK if i bought a car that I could only open the door and drive for specified, limited period of the day.

People paid money SE. Paid money to PLAY THE DAMN GAME! Not sit around for hours spamming a log in screen for "world full" errors. Listen to some of the other posts and institute an AFK kick pronto. A queue wouldn't hurt either.

You won't get a dime of subscription money from me until you can prove that you know what you are doing and you even care about paying customers.

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In your obvious infinite wisdom please tell us how SE can fix the problem overnight then, you obviously know so much about mmo backend servers.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

We're not paying subs yet - Once that comes up and there's still problems, then there's a true problem. Every MMO during launch has issues like this, some even worse.

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^^How many times and ways must this be said before it finally sinks into people's skulls? Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Honestly, if you can't be patient for a week, you were never going to last long in this game.

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Really - MMOs are meant to be played for years. A week of frustration will mean nothing in the long run as long as people are patient. I'm under the impression that the people complaining the loudest are the ones that don't have the patience to keep trying. I've always been able to get in within 15-20 minutes, it just takes a lot of repeated tries.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Honestly, if you can't be patient for a week, you were never going to last long in this game.

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Server issues and people complaining doesn't equal game play. When I am in, the game is amazing, it's getting in that acks me.

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Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder

^^How many times and ways must this be said before it finally sinks into people's skulls? Seriously.

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I paid 69.99 though to come home and wait....at least fix the afk issue or implement a better queue. At least with a queue I can do other things to blow the time.

Don't worry guys, it's only alpha. Closed beta will be better.
Don't worry guys, it's only closed beta, open beta will be better.
Don't worry guys, it's only open beta, release will be better.
Don't worry guys, it's only release, it'll be better once the subs start.

LOVE the game. But, the fact is, these issues were readily apparent in open beta. SE didn't plan the testing phases very well--especially OB being so short and so close to release--and now it's biting them in the butt. A little foresight could have made things go much smoother.

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Originally Posted by imabusyman

Server issues and people complaining doesn't equal game play.

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Clearly.

They're adding server capacity early next week. Complaining now won't make that come any faster. Adding server capacity is the right solution. Adding login queues, and afk kicks only mitigates the issue, where adding server capacity fixes the source of the problem.

Your tears are so tasty. Feed me more. More satlty butthurt tears.