Please Implement a standard Auction House

So what we currently have mimics an auction house yet is inferior to an Auction House in function..

The process to using the market system is more cumbersome than it needs to be, having to create an retainer then summon him every time you want to make changes finding the summoning bell can be a chore amongst big crowds...

The primary problem I have is running back and forth from the boards and summoning the retainer to compare prices and set mine accordingly, even then dismissing the retainer is slow and annoying because he feels the need pop up a speech bubble when dismissed.

If all that isn't enough, how about the feel of an AH? In my opinion a standard AH really adds to the feel of the game...

I agree I find retainers in 2.0 just like in 1.0 just a chore and inferior to FFXI auction house.

ummmm you don't have to run back and forth actually....

if you right click the item you want to sell in your retainers inventory and click "sell" there is a little box in the upper right portion of the box where it has you set the price and number in the stack. When you mouse over the box it says "view market history" or something like that. When you click it, it will show you the prices of current listings.

its pretty easy and straight forward

I don't think it's bad.

Each retainer comes with 7 tabs of storage and gil pocket. Also, stuff you purchase from the board goes directly to your inventory, you don't need to reach a mailbox or your retainer for that.

I think the game needs buy orders, it only makes sense to tell your retainer to also buy stuff at price X, it has its own inventory and gil pocket.

SE need to make the price history button more obvious, it seems a lot of people are missing it/ignoring it.

I like the way the retainers are set up now, but they should allow players to be able to sell at the marketboards as well.

Seriously? How about you pay attention to the Active Help screens when they come up! They explain how to use retainers, and how to sell items on the market. They also explain how to check prices as you list items as well.....some people, sweet jesus.

As far as the ffxi vs ffxiv ah goes, get over it, its not the same game. The new market system functions very well, its fast, robust, easy to use, connect all cities, helps eliminate market manipulation. Better than ffxi's AH and MUCH better than the 1.0 Ward system.

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Originally Posted by Benjif

Seriously? How about you pay attention to the Active Help screens when they come up! They explain how to use retainers, and how to sell items on the market. They also explain how to check prices as you list items as well.....some people, sweet jesus.

As far as the ffxi vs ffxiv ah goes, get over it, its not the same game. The new market system functions very well, its fast, robust, easy to use, connect all cities, helps eliminate market manipulation. Better than ffxi's AH and MUCH better than the 1.0 Ward system.

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I agree with the second half...

also the first half kinda... well in a nicer way, at least.

btw there's also a summoning bell in your inn room as well. And I wont be surprised if there will be a summoning bell in your house when housing gets released. Personally I like the retainers its something different then the usual run to AH and back to mailbox process we have in other mmo's plus using it as extra storage is nice too.

god so many steps just to put some thing up on the market.... I hated this in 1.0 and its the same thing... all they added was a history list

Bump to the max! An interface where you can both buy and sell with out having to jump between a market board and a retainer npc would be amazing.

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Originally Posted by Becken

god so many steps just to put some thing up on the market.... I hated this in 1.0 and its the same thing... all they added was a history list

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First world problems. Someone has to take a few more seconds and the whole thing sucks. This doesn't include just FF14 either.

When I am accessing my retainer, I go the easy road and go to an inn and get yourself a room. There is a summoning bell right by the door where you want to leave. When putting the item into your retainer to sell on the markets, there is a market check button in the bottom right? of the user interface. That will allow you to check the prices of the item.

My only thing is buying stuff. I'm not really into selling yet, and I probably wont be until I get a gathering class. But buying is so annoying Because the highest accessible level gear is never one there. I wish I could put in an offer for something, so that if someone wants to sell a certain item, and my offer is high enough I'd automatically buy it. The gil could leave pretransaction and everything.

The market system is pretty straightforward. People don't like dealing with complex markets and that's understandable, but a straight auction house for everything is a step backwards. Usually those imply a cost for just listing something, which usually strangles ingame economies. Items with lower demand never see the light of day in those systems. If there was an aux. auction house, as for selling off rare or very powerful HQ items, it could add a certain amount of interest towards both sellers and buyers. Replacing the system we have already, though, would just prove detrimental.

I like the current system.

After playing other MMOs, I swear to god if I see a stack of what I need without a buyout price attached again...

Auctions shouldn't be necessary as we can actively check the market history of the items we're trying to sell. If you can't set a price for your stuff with all of the granted tools, then the system isn't the problem here.

While it is easy and straightforward, it is somewhat cumbersome.

The good old days of spamming different areas in 1.0 of trying to find a spot for your retainer to sell things. That was AWFUL! lol

Would be nice to at least have a market board in your inn room And be able to craft in your in room. Retainer lag is vastly reduced inside your inn room(which I assume is a separate instance). That would also cut down on the player crowds surrounding the bell and market board out in the world further reducing overcrowding lag in those areas.

The market system is pretty awful, there are far better systems on free to play games.

You can't preview armour / weapons.

You can't see current going prices when listing something for sale.

The item search is awkward to use and limited.

Need to click multiple tiles just to sell 1 item, most games you just right click to enter the item for sale.


Overall it's the worst auction/market I've seen in any mmorpg to be honest.

I think the current system benefit traders who puts in effort to check market price despite the inconvenience. Make it too easy, everyone will be selling in the game and serious traders would loose their advantage of being diligent (though only a little). On the bright side, market is more efficient, prices converge to equilibrium price faster.

Retainer + market system is fine as is. Never has been and never will be the need for generic AH. The ability to preview weapons / armor has nothing to do with the market system, its a feature that has never been tied to the AH features and they have already mentioned plans of doing so.

And yea, you can see both the current price listings for the item you are trying to sell, as well as the sale history, right from your retainer. No need to run back and forth. So out goes the primary problem. Then, having to summon your retainer from the bell to list stuff is a non-issue. You would have to "summon" your auction listing too.

They still need to produce an average price based on sales history when adding an item to be sold. (been asking for this since 1.0).

Too many people still have no idea how much to sell items for and don't even check the price history.

To those saying a few extra seconds isn't something to whine about, it most certainly is when you are doing the same action thousands of times. I don't understand why game companies don't streamline absolutely everything that is often repeated. Retainers are an attempt to add personality to the auction system, which is interesting, but it is at the expense of raw functionality. And after clicking through them saying the same thing the 5000th time, I'm sure that personality is still fresh and not-at-all annoying.

I named my retainer Automaton.

This thread makes me laugh! Anyone here from the early days of 1.0?

There was no market search and no way to buy items off a board. You had to physical enter a specific ward room and check every single retainer for that item you wanted, and pray that people were using the right wards to sell there items, which most of the time they wasn't.

This new market/retainer system is the best I've seen in any MMO.

I prefer the standard AH method like the one used by wow, but I don't have any issues with this one. It is easy to use and has pretty much everything you need. But then again I used auctionator which was a god send. To me the only thing I don't like is not being able to filter by per item cost. Unless I missed something.

I actually like the system just as it is. Itmakes sense, mimics an actual system and is just different. It is not the same old thing from one game to the next. If I wanted that I would go play ine of the other games out there. A bit more work? Perhaps. But something that is more unique is worth it. I love it. Don't change it.

If they add a preview system at some point in the future, great! Complaining or asking for one for the market is not helpful when there is not one in the game to begin with.

Just my 2 Gil.

Why can't we just rightclick "Sell Item" from our inventory when we're at the market window?
It's a completely needless step to give it to the retainer.
Also, you can't check prices when you're in your retainer's window. You have to be at the Market board to do that.

If people really like a cumbersome system, they're mental.

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Originally Posted by AgriaWyyn

I actually like the system just as it is. Itmakes sense, mimics an actual system and is just different. It is not the same old thing from one game to the next. If I wanted that I would go play ine of the other games out there. A bit more work? Perhaps. But something that is more unique is worth it. I love it. Don't change it.

If they add a preview system at some point in the future, great! Complaining or asking for one for the market is not helpful when there is not one in the game to begin with.

Just my 2 Gil.

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I like it, all it needs is the ability to get yourretainer to buy stuff for you and it will be awesome. He can buy the stuff I need that isn't available when I look while I sleep.

The marketboard itself needs to have it's search function improved, honestly someone with a year of regex could probably improve the search in about 2 hours.
Now to the retainer system. They function as both a bank and market broker essentially.
It has a few extra annoyances that aren't needed imo.
1) Let players pick say a head retainer so you can have all items in retainer storage, Marketboard, and gil storage shown.
2) Increase market posting to something like 50 per retainer or let players pay a fee to purchase extra retainers. 40 market slots is nothing for players that like to craft and sell stuff. I'd honestly like no limit but meh I can compromise.
3) Merge retainer options. There is no need for there to be so many different options. Though this is minor issue and can be worked around by just using the retainer marketboard option and opening player inventory. It is still rather annoying.

...cont(1000 character limit is also annoying. cant actually post anything sizable.)
Now one thing that ff14 marketboard has that is absolutely amazing imo is the market history. I do wish it saved more transactions but that is likely a server storage issue or something. But either way the market history lets you know how faster the item is moving in the economy. Like maybe only 3 of this item sells a day so you know it might take time to sell unlike an item that sells 300 a day.

The current marketboard and retainer system is a great work in progress and I look forward to seeing SE build on it and finish up the parts that on it that are clearly not finished.

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Originally Posted by Sousoulsu

Why can't we just rightclick "Sell Item" from our inventory when we're at the market window?
It's a completely needless step to give it to the retainer.
Also, you can't check prices when you're in your retainer's window. You have to be at the Market board to do that.

If people really like a cumbersome system, they're mental.

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You actually can do this, you can also check prices from the retainer, I think you need to spend some more time with your retainers or re-read the help/tutorial.

SE there is no reason to have two options to sell items from your retainer and your inventory when you can do both from one selection. (maybe this is a PS3 limitation, but it doesn't need to be enforced on PC's also)

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

The market system is pretty awful, there are far better systems on free to play games.

You can't preview armour / weapons.

You can't see current going prices when listing something for sale.


The item search is awkward to use and limited.

Need to click multiple tiles just to sell 1 item, most games you just right click to enter the item for sale.


Overall it's the worst auction/market I've seen in any mmorpg to be honest.

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They definitely need to add some better search filters. Food searching only lists ID and Quantity which doesn't seem to do anything when clicked. Its hard to find food thats good for certain classes. Also the food is pretty lackluster considering how much you make at one time and the effects. The cost/benefit ratio is heavily stacked towards costs with Culinary.

Also you should be able to select multiple items that are the same at the very least to change price on when adjusting prices.

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Originally Posted by Kyra

This new market/retainer system is the best I've seen in any MMO.

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Are you joking? Tera? GW2? This market coupled with the clunky interface is the most cumbersome *I've* ever seen.

Instead of an auction house I'd prefer to see an exchange-like system where buyers can also place bids using retainers, similar to GW2. The market is stagnant as it is.

Would be nice if I don't have to click 8 times to adjust the price of every item. Some UI changes would be much apreciated.

I agree. I am aware that you can view sales history from your retainer, and I still agree with op very much so.

I hate the market as well. A standard auction in other mmorgs was already perfected why over complicate things needlessly. Over complicate stats and ways to build characters but an auction house... really.