For those that can't play until 8-10pm due to servers being full, what is the point of headstart?
I think we are due some serious compensation when not able to play because we DID pay to get headstart. Not to only be allowed to get into character creation.
That is is the game is even worth to play. It does not look that way, I played since start of 1.0 and quit due to lack of progress on 1.0. I came back because I thought it would be different, but it does not look good.
Whats the point of headstart for EU players?
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08-25-2013, 07:36 PMJotunhammerWhats the point of headstart for EU players?
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08-25-2013, 08:09 PMEffeth
This shit is expected to come with the launch of every new MMO. Is it acceptable? No, but it IS to be expected and I'm sure SE are doing their best.
What on earth did people smoke thinking FF14 would be the exception to have a perfect launch?
Just wish the mods could just show their presence a bit more, I'm sure it would ease some players minds. -
08-25-2013, 08:16 PMJotunhammerI played RIFT, had not even close to these issues, it was smooth launchQuote:
Originally Posted by Effeth
I played Neverwinter, nothing like these issues, they added servers as there was more ppl.
So... your wrong... and this is totally unacceptable, EU have 6 servers and NE 20 and JP have 25. That sounds like prudent planning? -
08-25-2013, 08:18 PMYankeePankeeI agree, for the most part. But expecting the servers to be up for more than 1/3 of the day is hardly expecting a perfect launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Effeth
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08-25-2013, 08:50 PMGiyari
Now I'm confused.
If what is being said is true about how when Rift launched internationally, they suffered no critical issues is true, then a lot of people's arguments, including my own are invalidated.
That would mean servers in modern day MMOs, should never have issues. This would make sense considering that the technology for servers must have changed since the days of WoW.
However, I would need to look up the launches of various MMOs to come to that conclusion. Assuming the hardware for the servers for everyone is the same, why are the JP servers still working when ours aren't? -
08-25-2013, 08:55 PMSakiel
Though I didn't expect much from the launch, I must say I'm very disappointed by the fact, that EU is lacking servers, and it's really BAD.
If we don't get more servers at the launch next week, this is gonna end up like WoW back in the days, where you pay for a full month, but get to play only after waiting in line for up to several hours.
More servers would maybe make the launch smoother, and I hope they get that fixed within the next 2 days, or I'll not pay for a subscription after the current 30 days are over. -
08-25-2013, 09:12 PMOhkami
I seem to remember Rift having 6 hour queues and lots of server downtimes to fix problems. Lets not even mention what happened with the world event. >.>;;;;
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08-25-2013, 09:20 PMJotunhammerThat was not that way for servers in Europe at least. You are the first person I heard even saying that. Everyone I spoken with have all have good experience with launch of RIFT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohkami
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08-25-2013, 09:48 PMMysteranCompensation for what again? You didn't pay for Early Access. Early Access is a bonus given to Legacy players or players who pre-ordered 2.0. A bonus. They didn't have to have one at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jotunhammer
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08-26-2013, 01:15 AMHypnotikAcidI hate to bash, but you my ill informed friend are incorrect....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysteran
Early access was a part of the price for pre ordering so no matter how you look at it we did pay.
And as far as Rift goes for NA believe me the Queues were for hours server lag / crashes all day however they fixed this within the first 48 hrs when they had maintenace you could feel the difference. And the Dev/MoDs kept everyone informed very well with detailed information.
SE has yet to show that anything theyve been working on since early access has done anything to improve anything. And they dont keep anyone informed until hours later and even then its basically copy and paste asking for our patience. -
08-26-2013, 01:27 AMMysteranSo you paid above the normal game price to pre-order? If so, you must be shopping at the wrong place.Quote:
Originally Posted by HypnotikAcid
You pre-ordered a game that releases on Tuesday, August 27th. As a bonus to people that pre-ordered you are being given access (as spotty as it may be) to the game in advance of that August 27th date. You did not pay extra to pre-order the game. You did not pay extra to get the Early Access.
I'm not trying to be mean or rude, but reality is no one paid for Early Access. -
08-26-2013, 01:28 AMTribunus
No idea why EU/NA servers are even clustered together, split them up and add more EU servers. Half a dozen for the EU community Vs 20 or more for everyone else is an insult.
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08-26-2013, 01:52 AMHypnotikAcidI see what your doing but its not working, just about everygame release has a headstart/early access they might call it a bonus but it has become a staple for every mmo and no matter how you or anyone want to twist words people *are* paying for early access aswell as the items it is why we give money up front. I could completely understand this if it was beta but its not and its their fault for not testing server loads further in phase 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysteran
I still love the game for what it is, but SE should have been a little more ready im not saying flawless trust me but after 1.0 they had some shoes to fill and i am just sad to see them in this predicament. -
08-26-2013, 03:08 AMSyrellaris
Early access, no matter how to twist the words to make it sound like a bonus, is always included in the price of the game when you pre-order. So yes you did pay for it, as you paid for the game or made a down payment for the game(5 bucks of the actual price or so) to your retailer if that is there policy. I've been part of many MMO launches including a few games more popular then ARR right now and they managed to at least allow people to log in. Early access for NA/Eu has really been a fiasco and yes compensation for that is in order. Does not have to be big though, maybe a week of non payed playing time extra, perhaps some in game items etc. Could be anything.
Also, yes I do understand these things happen and a little down time is always expected.
also..on a side note.. what happened to the queue? budget cuts? -
08-26-2013, 03:26 AMIzumiRaito
I hope SE gives us proper compensation for downtimes (free game time, dont need items), preferably free game time untill server problems are COMPLETELY fixed. If not, then i will wait with registering the retail code untill it is fixed. I would suggest others to do the same, but if they do, it may give SE an illusion of problems magically vanishing.
For now, early access looks like another beta. A paid beta.
People who think that EA is a free bonus should reconsider. It was included in the transaction, so we DID pay for it. And the biggest additional price was BLIND purchase, since we could have tried to find a cheaper price, or just wait for every launch issue to be fixed. -
08-26-2013, 03:38 AMDarkSeifer
To everyone arguing that early access is a gift, blah blah blah, I owned the CE of 1.0.
I PAYED for a BRAND NEW copy of 2.0 just to get early access. That is literally the ONLY reason I purchased it. I get the game for free and all of the collector's items.
And many people did the same thing. I understand them having issues. But having 4 maintenances to fix it is a bit ridiculous. And the fact that I can't log in and play because they don't have a queue for the servers is stupid. Limiting the number of people that can log in is one thing, but right now it's a guessing game. It makes me feel like amateurs are working on this. Like it's some cheap f2p game. -
08-26-2013, 03:39 AMSyrellaris
The world is currently full, please wait an opening and try again..... yeah nice... THEN PUT ME IN A QUEUE!! don't effing send me back to start menu -.- sigh :(